Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Zapatta · Dec 25, 2019

Adebisi said:
What positives came out of battlefield earth? Please list them

Scientology looked even more silly?

Arbitrary · Dec 25, 2019

Adebisi said:
What positives came out of battlefield earth? Please list them

I said the film "had positives" not that positives "came out of battlefield earth."

Terl, John Travolta's character, is delightful.

Vanessa · Dec 25, 2019

Fan-made films have more grit and emotion than actual Star Wars films.

Lithose · Dec 25, 2019

Zapatta said:
There are always a bunch of uncredited writers on a movie script, people are fired, shit get rewritten a bunch of times, origanl writers get mad about changes want their name taken off. Sometimes the movie only has one single scene or a character name left from the very first draft.

I remember Kevin Smith talking about the last Die Hard and 35 writers worked on that script including him and they only kept a single line of dialogue he wrote.

The point of the pic I think is the script was written by committee and the female execs kept sending it back over and over with notes for rewrites. 'Too much Luke and he's too awesome, movie is about Rey, nerf Luke'. 'Hes still cool, nerf him more'. Etc.

Yes, this is exactly why it was rumored that JJ chose not to do Episode 2. Because the Lucasfilm writers group was horrendous and shit all over everything based purely on ideological grounds.

That writers group was formed by Kennedy. The first thing she did when she took over was fire all the men, and hire a bunch of women writers. Those writers had power over all scripts and essentially executive say in how/why things happened, they were the final say on what "fit" with the overall Star Wars story. (And again, rumor is they ran it like women...They gave no hard outlines on what they wanted, they made the guys guess and then simply rejected things until the guys began guessing right lol...)

I linked an article in this thread before these films began about Kennedy firing all the long term men, and said it was the first sign things might not go well.

Chukzombi · Dec 25, 2019

Zapatta said:
PFFFT!, its way better if it makes holes in Time and Midgets run thru them.

man, those guys look like caricatures somebody would put into a drawing , but nobody would actually believe a person could look like.

Intrinsic · Dec 25, 2019

Vanessa said:
Fan-made films have more grit and emotion than actual Star Wars films.

And he’s Harrison Ford here:

Zapatta · Dec 25, 2019

Lithose said:
Yes, this is exactly why it was rumored that JJ chose not to do Episode 2. Because the Lucasfilm writers group was horrendous and shit all over everything based purely on ideological grounds.

That writers group was formed by Kennedy. The first thing she did when she took over was fire all the men, and hire a bunch of women writers. Those writers had power over all scripts and essentially executive say in how/why things happened, they were the final say on what "fit" with the overall Star Wars story. (And again, rumor is they ran it like women...They gave no hard outlines on what they wanted, they made the guys guess and then simply rejected things until the guys began guessing right lol...)

I linked an article in this thread before these films began about Kennedy firing all the long term men, and said it was the first sign things might not go well.

If had worked on any of these pieces of shit I would have done an Alan Smithee

Zapatta · Dec 25, 2019

Intrinsic said:
And he’s Harrison Ford here:

WTF, Lucas now looks like he was created by the Jim Henson workshop and Frank Oz has his fist up his ass working his mouth. Being a bored billionaire is taking on a toll on him physically.

Sevens · Dec 25, 2019

Arbitrary said:
Was it Wheel of Time that had the doomsday magic where if you nuked someone with it you also erased them from history? The harder you blasted them the further back they didn't exist.

A Deathstar with a history eraser beam that was going to target the Jedi homeworld so they would never exist would have been cool!

Something like related -

EVIL TRIUMPHS AND YOU, YOU OPTIMUS PRIMAL, YOU NO LONGER EXIIIIIIIIIIST

Yes, it was Wheel of Time and was called Balefire.

Arbitrary said:
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Those Reno 911 fellows wrote themselves a really solid book on script writing. The jokey cover aside it was an excellent read.

edit - he's a little hard on himself calling Battlefield Earth one of the worst movies of all time. It's not. It's not even close. It's one of the most famous bad movies and having written one of those ain't all that bad. Battlefield Earth is memorable with some positives and is still memorable two decades later.

Battlefield Earth IS one of the worst movie ever, it was shit from start to finish and it wasnt even the fun kind of shit (The Room) that is so bad its good. Horrible stupid waste of money and time, good god this think was an abortion.

Runnen · Dec 25, 2019

Zapatta said:
WTF, Lucas now looks like he was created by the Jim Henson workshop and Frank Oz has his fist up his ass working his mouth. Being a bored billionaire is taking on a toll on him physically.

That's a deepfake...

jayrebb · Dec 25, 2019

Chris said:
That's the Lucasfilm story group, I think they were fired after Last Jedi?

Only the VP got sacked

Regime · Dec 25, 2019

Izo · Dec 25, 2019

Gals kissed? I must've dosed off, didn't see it. Most got up right after the ending. Shrug.

Chukzombi · Dec 25, 2019

Izo said:
Gals kissed? I must've dosed off, didn't see it. Most got up right after the ending. Shrug.

some old lady that was part of Admiral Gender Studies crew kissed some woman at the end of the film.

Zapatta · Dec 25, 2019

Big Phoenix said:
Obviously not Star Wars but this gives you an idea how it goes down.

Jay Mohr had a short lived sitcom way back when called Action! that was basically him playing an 'Ari Gold' before there was Entourage. He was a movie producer and it made fun of all the Hollywood shenanigans that happen when trying to make a film. The character of the writer was constantly being shit on endlessly. It was a pretty funny show and I think was famous for being the first ever prime time to have cussing in it. I wish it would pop up on Amazon or Hulu, it held up really well last time I watched.

Action (TV Series 1999–2000) ⭐ 8.2 | Comedy

30m | 14A

www.imdb.com

a_skeleton_02 · Dec 25, 2019

Adebisi said:
You'll have to explain to me why JJ and the Batman v Superman dude are credited as the writers...

They are the writers but the problem was Kathleen Kennedy assembled a board room of writers/consultants/gender studies(no kidding) people and called them the LucasStory Group or some shit.

They laid out a list of rules and would shred/change anything they liked. This is why JJ Abrams got the sack after the first movie because he clashed with them hard, Rian Johnson was in with the group/iger and that's why he got the movie.

Word on the street was when they begged Abrams to finish this first movie after 3 totally different cuts had been produced he said he wanted no tampering from the diversity squad but iger had final say.

sadris · Dec 26, 2019

I liked this movie more than the other two

Goatface · Dec 26, 2019

Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) 70%
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) 91%
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) 83%
Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) 93%
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) 80%
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) 65%
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) 53%
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 82%
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 94%
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) 93%

Chukzombi · Dec 26, 2019

Goatface said:
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Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) 70%
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) 91%
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) 83%
Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) 93%
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) 80%
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) 65%
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) 53%
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 82%
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 94%
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) 93%

that score has been locked for the last 5 days.

Goatface · Dec 26, 2019

Chukzombi said:
that score has been locked for the last 5 days.

Do you mean the Verified Audience? really don't care about that, that was just the lowest All Critics score i have seen after release. think if it gets like 6 more rotten will go down to 54

All Audience has gone up in last 3 days or so

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