Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

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Chukzombi

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I'm pretty sure you called it "a goddamn masterpiece of cinema."

as bad and horrible TPM is, Attack of the Clones says hold my beer. that movie is a colossal clusterfuck while TPM is just a mere shitshow. now if you compare the two to the last jedi? hey they are pretty good films.
 
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as bad and horrible TPM is, Attack of the Clones says hold my beer. that movie is a colossal clusterfuck while TPM is just a mere shitshow. now if you compare the two to the last jedi? hey they are pretty good films.

It's like comparing terminal stage 4 colorectal cancer to end stage, full blown HIV.

Edit: I wonder what it's like for these people who make these movies, to have literally every person on earth hate what they did and despise them for it!
 
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ohkcrlho

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It's like comparing terminal stage 4 colorectal cancer to end stage, full blown HIV.

Edit: I wonder what it's like for these people who make these movies, to have literally every person on earth hate what they did and despise them for it!
Jake Lloyd knows lol :/
 

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TPM is an unwatchable shit, TLJ is a bigger unwatchable shit
TPM going in at the midnight show opening night was real disappointing. Started out cool with the blockade and all that, but then they got down to the planet and Jar-Jar happened and it was all downhill from there.

Last Jedi didn't even have a good 10 minute start so there's that. Started with a Jerky Boys routine.
 
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Merrith

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as bad and horrible TPM is, Attack of the Clones says hold my beer. that movie is a colossal clusterfuck while TPM is just a mere shitshow. now if you compare the two to the last jedi? hey they are pretty good films.

Interesting, I know most people I've talked to think TPM is bar far the worst of the prequels. Some do note the really poor chemistry with teenage/young adult Anakin and Padme is fairly jarring in Clones, but I'm not sure if it's worse than full on Jar-Jar. Both films try to fake you out with lightsaber duels at the end to save them.
 

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yeah, trying to say, "x is worse then Y", doesn't really work here. Because its not a linear scale. A movie might succeed at one thing, but fail at another.
The force awakens is a very watchable movie. you can put it on, shut off your brain, and be entertained. It utterly fails at other things. Characterization, moving the story forward compellingly, etc.
Its the difference between a bad movie that is entertaining, like The Room, for a bad movie that is just boring as shit, like.. idk, I don't remember the names of those pieces of shit.

cut out Jar jar, and TPM is almost a solid passable movie. The prequels all have the problem of being a bit boring sadly.
TFA is not boring, despite its flaws.

TLJ almost seems scientifically engineered to be an anti-movie. "making a sequel? ok, lets retcon everything. Also, part of a trilogy?, ok lets have a conclusion in part 2. character growth? nah. have the entire movie with no stakes, and nothing interesting? ok. Ruin legacy characters? on it!. Destroy any semblance of suspension of disbelief with countless fiction breaking elements? heck yeah."
I challenge anyone to write a movie that systematically derails a trilogy, or franchise as expertly as TLJ did.
 
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Chukzombi

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Interesting, I know most people I've talked to think TPM is bar far the worst of the prequels. Some do note the really poor chemistry with teenage/young adult Anakin and Padme is fairly jarring in Clones, but I'm not sure if it's worse than full on Jar-Jar. Both films try to fake you out with lightsaber duels at the end to save them.
Clones has JarJar as well. at least TPM had Darth Maul which was pretty cool. dont get me wrong, i saw TPM on the wednsesday before release at midnight and it was jaw droppingly bad and i was ashamed i paid anything for it. i saw clones on cable and i still felt ripped off somehow. its vastly more terrible. TLJ is so bad, it made me angry at the entire franchise, it ruined luke skywalker for me.
 
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Merrith

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Clones has JarJar as well. at least TPM had Darth Maul which was pretty cool. dont get me wrong, i saw TPM on the wednsesday before release at midnight and it was jaw droppingly bad and i was ashamed i paid anything for it. i saw clones on cable and i still felt ripped off somehow. its vastly more terrible. TLJ is so bad, it made me angry at the entire franchise, it ruined luke skywalker for me.

JarJar was toned down a LOT after TPM. Also we had bearded Kenobi finally in Clones. Actual big fights that weren't JarJar peeps against Trade Federation. Yeah, I guess I still think TPM is worse.

But agree TLJ is basically the standard for shit.
 
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Prequels are bad. TLJ is Catwoman/Highlander 2 bad. Well, maybe not quite that bad, but it's close enough.
 
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Whatever they have to cram into this final movie is going to suck.

Thank Rian for fucking up what should've been the most important movie of the three.
 
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This is like people arguing for higher categories for hurricanes. There is no cat6+ category because 157+ mph winds are considered catastrophic. There is no higher tier of shit for any of these prequel movies. They are all category 5 garbage.
 
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This is like people arguing for higher categories for hurricanes. There is no cat6+ category because 157+ mph winds are considered catastrophic. There is no higher tier of shit for any of these prequel movies. They are all category 5 garbage.

If The Phantom Menace is a Cat 5 hurricane, The Last Jedi is one of the apocalyptic super-storms from Day After Tomorrow.
 
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Malakriss

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The prequels were (for the most part) self-contained and the bad parts only made themselves bad. The sequel trilogy on the other hand shit on everything that existed and crippled the prospects for everything going forward. The collateral damage is incalculable.
 
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Chukzombi

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If The Phantom Menace is a Cat 5 hurricane, The Last Jedi is one of the apocalyptic super-storms from Day After Tomorrow.
that thing on Jupiter that you could fit like 8 planet Earths inside.
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Warrik

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For me, TLJ did FAR more damage to the franchise than the prequels ever could.

Give me more Rogue One please.
 
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