Tanoomba's Toxic Tank of Traducement

fanaskin said:

somewhere in there is a grey area where someone like tanoomba argues about a cortex and the end result is some autist chops his dick off because of some bf skinner like conditioning

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Dude.

All I'm arguing is that SCIENCE shows there is likely a biological basis for gender dysphoria, and that it isn't a product of people's imaginations. The fact that we were able to figure this out, using SCIENCE, shows that, at the bare minimum, the method used to diagnose those who were ultimately tested was pretty accurate. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have had the results we did.

Gender dysphoria exists, and so far having educated professionals talk to people about their feelings is a pretty good way to find out who suffers from it.

Can this system be exploited or otherwise rendered less accurate due to political pressure and the influence of popular media on a susceptible public? Of course! We ABSOLUTELY need to be careful not allow politics to fuck with professional medicine. We absolutely SHOULD call out this push to get children to question their gender before they even understand what gender is. Nobody here has ever argued otherwise, certainly not me.

But your solution of "feelings are involved, therefore we can't diagnose anyone!" is not only ignorant but harmful. You want to prevent people who actually suffer from GD (and again, SCIENCE shows they do exist) from getting treatment, even though the way we diagnose them has actually worked pretty well up tot this point.

Skanda:

This isn't the "Let's post what some dumb shit said on Twitter" thread.

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AngryGerbil:

I thought it was mildly relevant to speak about the Nazis because if you like Tomb Raider or Hitman.... you are a Nazi in the modern age.

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But if we just want to stay at the surface level of all of this and only ever talk about how Soc-Jus invades video-games per-se, then we are left shallow, mute, and retarded on the entire subject.

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Doesn't want to have shallow, surface-level discourse about social justice.

Uses shallow, surface-level hyperbole to discuss social justice.

Can't explain that.

AngryGerbil:

I really honestly and truly do believe that I can draw a memetic link from Hitler to Sarkeesian and I believe I can do it without contradicting myself or sounding too foolish.

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Bet you couldn't.

khorum:

Noone here made Manveer Heir the lead creative writer for a triple-AAA Bioware game, and noone here made him inject his SJW shit all over a hobby everyone here enjoys.

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You can keep telling yourself this, but you and the vocal anti-SJW crew absolutely played a role in those decisions being made.

Having been in my fair share of trans chats on Kik, met a solid handful of trannies irl and been to two conferences where 100+ trannies convened, I can absolutely assure you that the stats are correct: most aren't just suffering from GD... there is a high rate of depression, autism, bipolar, and even multiple personality. I cannot be certain why this is, but I have a theory that a fair portion are transtrenders... it seems like "being trans" in a post-Caitlyn (she's not the root cause or being emulated imo, but it WAS a social mile marker) is the equivalent to being punk / emo / goth a decade or two ago. It has reached a pivotal sweet spot in that it is common enough to not be completely ostracized in society, yet still weird enough and socially faux-pas enough to be edgy and fringe. Also, as far as how this links to the other mental issues, it could be a number of ways sufferers could latch onto it for benefit: providing a reason for being different to begin with (autism); something to fixate on (autism); something they think will make them happy (depression); an explanation for their manifestations of personalities through the host (MP), attributing the light and dark mood swings to a more convenient binary explanation -- i.e. it's my female self being dominant when I'm positive (bipolar). I'm just tossing out the line here... I honestly am only speculating.

The high indicator and/or red flag that this is a trend, to me, is the fact that the vast majority of non-binary transgender people are young (and ugly, but that's just being mean). It's bad enough explaining to people what GD is and being a transsexual (take it from me: this IS the fundamental, primal form of transgenderism, and the form that will be provable by science), but then you have these other clowns hijacking the trans-flag and demanding their zhe/zhey pronouns be respected and twisting the public opinion of what transgenderism really is. Ugh... fucking frustrating. I could go on for hours over this bullshit, but I'll spare you all my rant soapbox and just stop here.

I will say this though: I am very very much looking forward to the future of transgenderism in the world. My big prediction? By 2030, the rate of which individuals who identify as transgender will decrease noticeably.