The Authoritative Final Fantasy & Bravely Default thread

I'm still having trouble getting my head around the idea that people actually think some FF games are 'dumb' and some aren't. Or hell, extrapolate that all the way out to JRPGs in general. I mean, my favorite one of the generation by a mile is Resonance of Fate, and that game has a story which is utter nonsense. I still loved the game though, because utterly nonsensical plot is exactly what I expect, and I only pay attention to the gameplay, combat/"RPG" systems, characters, and graphics. Bonus points if the dialogue and/or voice actors only make me cringe once or twice per conversation.

Crone_sl said:

Really want to get into BD but it's bugging me I didn't get very far into the demo!! F the completionist in me sometimes. I don't want to get into the real game because I haven't finished the demo but don't want to waste time with the demo because the real game is out.

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The rewards you get from the demo are trivial and not unique in any way . You can buy everything you get by the second merchant you see.

Ritley_sl said:

The rewards you get from the demo are trivial and not unique in any way . You can buy everything you get by the second merchant you see.

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Yeah, they don't help much. But, getting 20 Villagers right off the bat *is* pretty big if you use the sploit to do it.

Vorph_sl said:

I'm still having trouble getting my head around the idea that people actually think some FF games are 'dumb' and some aren't. Or hell, extrapolate that all the way out to JRPGs in general. I mean, my favorite one of the generation by a mile is Resonance of Fate, and that game has a story which is utter nonsense. I still loved the game though, because utterly nonsensical plot is exactly what I expect, and I only pay attention to the gameplay, combat/"RPG" systems, characters, and graphics. Bonus points if the dialogue and/or voice actors only make me cringe once or twice per conversation.

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Not only was the story strange as anything, but your left with 2 characters you honestly couldn't give a shit about. Serah was a part of the original story, but Noel is some newcomer and immediately off the bat I didn't care about his story. The combat was only slightly better than FF13 in some aspects. I thought collecting monsters would be cool, but basically once I got a few different chocobos I was good for the rest of the game. I actually preferred having 3 party members rather than managing whatever companions I had in this, also having the choice of who to use was better for me than having a trio of monsters that didn't interact with the story at all. Finally, the time travel stuff, while a decent idea, was presented in a way that I found too simplified. It felt to me like I was playing stages or levels in an action game and I could revisit them if I wanted, it made the world feel very small - I enjoy a more open world. FF13 suffered from the closed-world symptoms too, but at least it opened up a bit at the end. Plus, the ending was pretty cringe-worthy.

Only plus side was the last boss looked fucking awesome, even though I wasn't really challenged by it. I'll give them that. SE has never skimped out on artwork.

Ciaus is apparently back for Lightning Returns as well - only know that from some synopsises though - not started playing quite yet (Actually installing right now).

I thought Caius looked decent enough for a villain, but he was just so fucking goddamn emo the whole game. Also whenever you fought him he basically fell over if a strong wind gust came in his general direction.

Sean_sl said:

Yeah, they don't help much. But, getting 20 Villagers right off the bat *is* pretty big if you use the sploit to do it.

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Will have to look that up, so I can do it! Then can skip the rest of the demo and get to the real game!!

Speaking of which, how do you delete demos from the 3ds? In my 10 second attempt I couldn't see how to do it.

System Settings > Data > SD Card

Sometimes story does not have to be extremly complex etc. Hell LOTR and Hobbit are not super complex in /their/ story- its the presentation, and in that example the presentation is supported by vast history, lanuage works etc. FF games that are hailed as better are usualy because they do have a decent story with some good elements, that are presented well with supporting characters that you can engage in. Presentation is visual, music etc. Rarely is battle system taken into account in many of the highly praised FF games, the character development aspect of the battle system is sometimes, such as espers, jobs etc. Then there is FFT where it is just everything that people love...well most people

Another example, I love Lunar the silver star- the most basic fantasy plot- but presented and executed almost perfectly imo.

Lunar SS was one of the best RPG's ive ever played

Im still waiting on another Last Remnant - I care not what people think about it but that game was mad fun and hard. I wish it didnt have so many tech and graphical issues but its something they could seriously make an attempt to do on next gen.

For those that have beaten the fire temple crystal boss...
Been spending my time leveling summoner/time mage with my caster ladies and spell fencer/valkyrie with my melee dudes. Two-handed spell fencers can absolutely wreck a mob, and I have shitloads of first turns from quad braving up my two melee dudes and just letting them go to town on stuff.

Nemeses... I had 6 belphegors and a level 70 asmodeus on my map. When I killed 3 to get three more today, I ended up with... 3 more belphegors. At least I'm getting the occasional +stat item, though I've only seen 4 out of 9 Belphs.

rpgamer.com gave LR a 2.5 out of 5 thats fairly harsh for them. I honestly think the "community" is tired of SE's crap and know they cannot give FF15 these numbers so they are making a point with LR... or if its all truely honest I am betting we should see similar "issues" and thus similar "ratings" on FF15

Playing it so far, it definitely feels "odd" especially for me being unused to the time management RPG types - got a feeling if we'd look at Atelier and other time management RPG reviews they'd land pretty similarly. The gameplay is fun but the time management stuff makes it a bit alien at the same time.

just picked up 3ds xl and this the other day.

Code - 0533-6033-8253

Added everyone in the last 5 or so pages.

thanks! Loving the game and system so far. the 3d isn't so bad that I get a headache yet, rather enjoying it.

Still missing these dudes to add me. Code - 2036-8412-3302

Derkon, Rezz, Saban, Vaclav, Ritley, Ether, Shagga, TheBigTor

Give me more OP special moves.

If anyone here is playing Lightning Returns on 360, I have an Art of War costume code you can have. The hardcover guide came with a code for each system.

Valos_sl said:

Still missing these dudes to add me. Code - 2036-8412-3302

Derkon, Rezz, Saban, Vaclav, Ritley, Ether, Shagga, TheBigTor

Give me more OP special moves.

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Being lazy going back through - someone needs to make an Excel to keep it easy.