The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

And that's nice that they're flat out admitting its weaker now. None of the "Well, we can catch up with eSRAM tricks" nonsense like before.

"Ryse reminded me of darksiders II" So it's hideously ugly in addition to being a QTE fest? Darksiders 2 is a fun game but it looks bad even on PC

Sean_sl said:

Microsoft is utterly fucking retarded if the Kinect costs that much and if they could have sold the Xbone at a $300-350 price tag.

The PS4 is estimated to cost about $300-325 to build and the Xbone probably isn'tmuchless than that. Sony's thought to be making around $30-40 per PS4 I believe, so that means Microsoft is very possibly losing money on every unit or breaking even at best (not to mention the yield issues which have to be burning money).

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I remember Pachter on gametrailers did an analyzis where he was absolutely sure Microsoft would go the way of subsidizing the console with cable companies and such because of the TV capabilities.
But when you look at the features they are so absolutely insistent on having despite what the consumers want and the obvious extra costs, one might start to think that certain intelligence agencies have pre-subsidized the console already.

Droigan_sl said:

I remember Pachter on gametrailers did an analyzis where he was absolutely sure Microsoft would go the way of subsidizing the console with cable companies and such because of the TV capabilities.
But when you look at the features they are so absolutely insistent on having despite what the consumers want and the obvious extra costs, one might start to think that certain intelligence agencies have pre-subsidized the console already.

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Meh, I am definitely not a tin foil hat person. I don't think that they'd go that far. They just have some really bad management who truly believe that the Kinect is the future of printing money hats. They put more work into the engineering of the camera than they did into the system's own hardware, which from the sounds of it was pretty much just slapped together (Sony's APU actually has some custom stuff that AMD will use for their own products in the future that the Xbone APU doesn't have). They're really banking on the Kinect and the TV stuff to get them Mass Market. Maybe they're right and the world will fall in love with all that stuff, but I sincerely doubt it.

Back to the tin foil hat - while I do doubt that they would collude with the government in the design of it, I do not doubt that they will take absolutely no steps what so ever to protect consumers and will comply with any mandate given to them once it does release. That's just par for the course though really. I think the scarier stuff is from an article linked before about how they talked about how they were excited that the Xbone is built from the ground up for targeted advertising:http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/04/xbox...omment-page-1/

One source called the development of adverts for Xbox One "exciting", because, "the 360 console wasn't built with advertising in mind, it was more of an afterthought, so we've had to adapt to the technology and how we work to fit them in to the console, whereas this new one is going to have advertising in mind.

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They've admitted that it does do targeted advertising and records data for that, but I really do not think that it's going to purposely spy for the government and what/how it records would probably be of limited use to them.

Still 4 months until they come out

X X E X X_sl said:

Sean give us the break down on what games we can expect on both systems by Xmas - Im lazy and you like doing that shit

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This has been posted before, there's also the upcoming games thread:http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.p...-Games-of-2013

I don't have a launch title list in there really, but I can do some sort of sorting I guess.

For now there's the IGN pages. It's not 100% accurate as Diablo 3 was recently confirmed to not be a launch title, but the rest should be right.

PS4:http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation..._Launch_Titles
Xbone:http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/Xb..._Launch_Titles

Here's what I added to the upcoming games thread:

Next Gen Launch Titles:

Killzone: Shadow Fall(PS4)
Knack(PS4)
Drive Club(PS4)

Watch Dogs(XBONE/PS4)
Call of Doggy: Ghosts(XBONE/PS4)
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag(XBONE/PS4)
Battlefield 4(XBONE/PS4)

Dead Rising 3(XBONE)
Forza Motorsport 5(XBONE)
Killer Instinct(XBONE)
Ryse: Son of Rome(XBONE)


Left off sports games because fucks given = 0. They're all also releasing on them. That's pretty much all that you are going to see in November. Anything else won't be out until Q1, but there should be quite a few big titles then like Infamous. Also, expect a lot more game announcements come Gamescom and Tokyo Gameshow. The PS4 currently has 40+ Exclusives in the works and 140+ games over all. The Xbone has like 20 something exclusives planned.

X X E X X_sl said:

Hmm, judging from the list id likely end up buying.

PS4 - Knack and KZ
XB1 - Watchdogs, and Ghost/BF4 (depends may be ps4)

Launch titles arent really that intriguing but the launch window looks decent.

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Why in god's name would you buy Multiplatform games on a vastly inferior system? Especially a primarily single player experience like Watch Dogs.

Cerny on the PS4 controller:http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2000855...alshock_4.html

http://www.stuff.tv/playstation-4/so...oller-ps4/news

"The controller was a very, very broad collaboration that went out to the game teams and even some of the third-party teams," said Cerny. "We looked at everything we could put into the controller and solicited feedback from the teams on what we should include."

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"Historically we have heard many times that our controllers have not been ideal for first-person shooters," he admits, "so we wanted to make sure we had something that would be much better for that genre. We tested the throw of the triggers, the position of the triggers, how much pressure it takes. We looked at the joysticks, the dead spot, we looked at convexity and concavity." The end result, he says, "feels extraordinarily natural."

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It's good to see how much they're admitting to how many mistakes were made with the PS3, right down to the controller. Likewise with designing the PS4's hardware they also went to other developers on the controller, which is great. Fixing the triggers and sticks = huge.

I'm still wondering who is pre-ordering. The launch looks pretty weak on both systems and then you still have Day 1 issues.

Weak? Watch Dogs and Black Flag (plus CoD/BF4 for you shooter people) make this by far the best launch of all time.

I've been lusting for Watchdogs since it was first unveiled at E3 2012. It looked fucking awesome then and it's only gotten better. Can't wait to play the shit out of that on my new PS4.

Still trying to decide whether I should get Killzone or Watchdogs as launch title. I won't have that much time to game around release, so by the time I'll have given one a serious shot, I presume the other will have gone through a price drop already.

Leaning toward Watchdog just because it seems unique. But Killzone looks like a ton of fun. I'll have to look into MP options -- that might give KZ the edge.