Sulrn
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Two rehashes and two multiplatform release titles. Woo. /sarcasm Ubi is the only person bringing something to the table, yes - I call that weak.
The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !
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Szlia
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Considering just about all mainstream news outlet did a paper or three on the PS4 and Xbox One and that consumer electronics stores as well as cultural goods stores around here have pre-order signs, I am pretty sure mainstreamers are well aware of the existence of the machines.
Aware of their existence but how many mainstreamers pre-order? How many of them pay attention to supply shortages? I think history speaks for itself when it says that people will walk into the stores on release date and think they can just walk out with one.
To me it doesn't matter what or who the titles come from as long as they are excellent titles and Watch Dogs and Black Flag look fucking amazing and far better than anything and anyone has ever had on a system on launch by fucking miles.
That's not weak at all. There's not a single launch in history that has titles comparable to those two games.
Joeboo
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Hell, N64 only launched with two games, Mario 64 and Pilotwings 64, and that was a better launch lineup than either one of these next gen systems this fall. Those games were absolutely mind-blowing at the time they released. 3D graphics had never been done so well and so smoothly up to that point.
Dreamcast easily had the best launch lineup of all time:
Sonic Adventure(great Sonic game)
House of the Dead 2(maybe most popular light-gun series of all time)
Hydro Thunder
NFL 2K(best football game ever made up to that point)
Power Stone(incredible game, every bit as fun as Smash Brothers)
Soul Calibur(maybe the best 3D fighting series of all time)
Tokyo Extreme Racer(amazing game, the perfect combo of Gran Turismo and Need for Speed)
and about 10 other titles, most average to above average games.
Now that was a system launch, Sega did that shit right, it's too bad the PS2 killed them about 6 months later.
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what you are really asking is: will there be a massive profit opportunity for resellers? I doubt anyone can give you a real answer right now, but imo the best guess is still no. Here's my reasoning why: amazon had both xbox one and ps4 launch edition pre-orders for well over 4 weeks, never once "running out". They only stopped taking launch orders recently. They have to be working closely with both Microsoft and Sony, since they (online) and Walmart (physical) are pretty much going to be the big volume movers.
Sony and Microsoft most likely used amazon to gauge demand and have ramped production up or down based on the data they collected over that month, and are now focused more on manufacturing enough for physical stores like Walmart, Best Buy, Gamestop, etc.
There is also certainly going to be a certain % of amazon pre-orders that are cancelled, amazon probably has a really good estimate based off WiiU and game pre-orders (Battlefield 3, Call of Duty, etc).
Either way it doesn't hurt to keep any extra pre-orders until the last minute, but I would be very surprised if each console is not easily available this holiday at any store in the hundreds. Neither is selling at a loss to the manufacturer, neither has an insanely complicated architecture (except for maybe Microsofts ESRAM, but we haven't heard anything in months about that), AMD's fab company - Global Foundries - has 10+ fabs worldwide to crank out the APU/GPU, there is no shortage of any of the components, and the Chinese manufacturing and shipping lines have been running smoothly all year with no other product consuming demand.
If you really want to gauge the demand keep an eye out on eBay "already sold" sales, as far as I can tell it still continues to trend down (throwing out the "scammer" buyer fakes).
Xexx
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Pilotwings was as boring as can fuckin be. Mario was the shit but at the time i had wished i didnt waste the money. N64 was lackluster to me, aside from Goldeneye which is still the best MP game everrrrrrrrrr. Its pretty impossible to compare this next gen line up to N64 launch line up. The quality of the games is different as well as what is put into them and marketing. By all means watchdogs alone is enough by itself but you still have other large titles be it cross platform or not.
Also realize your post is entirely opinionated - Soul Calibur is cool to some just like Sonic - but there's also people who hate both titles and prefer other games like Tekken or VF and consider them the best. Dreamcast was an amazing system and for the love of god i wish they would remake Powerstone and a new Grandia.
Joeboo
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I'm definitely not saying that N64 was a great launch, but it's comparable to this next gen launch in that there are only a couple "must buy" games, and I guarantee that Watch Dogs isn't the leap forward in gaming that Mario 64 was at the time. Dreamcast takes the launch crown by FAR. I remember having so many games that I was dying to play when I brought mine home on launch day, that I was almost overwhelmed on where to begin. There were almost too many great games at it's launch. I was frantically switching games like every 10 minutes because they were all so badass.
I wouldn't have bought a single one of those Dreamcast games (and didn't). On the other hand, I'm buying Killzone Shadowfall, Knack, Watch Dogs, and AC4 Black Flag. That's more than I've bought at any other launch (and I totally skipped the PS3/X360 launches). Though I did pick up 5 of the PS2 launch titles, just not all at once.
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As for innovation yeah there will be nothing new here just slightly better graphics (very slightly) and larger pricetags
Console launches aren't the big deal they used to be because there is such little innovation happening these days
Console launches aren't the big deal they used to be because there is such little innovation happening these days
Yes and no. I guess I am asking if the shortage is going to be extended and price gouging is going to be insane so I can guage if I want to keep mine instead of selling for a tiny bit of profit.
It's too early to tell but I am sure we have some good market speculators.
Joeboo
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Because like most of us old-timers here, we were all knee-deep into Everquest when the Dreamcast launched. EQ had been out for about 6 months at that point. I did very little console gaming(or gaming of any kind) for many years because of EQ. Playing one game 60-80 hours a week doesn't leave much room for anything else. I actually ended up selling my Dreamcast to a friend probably 2 months after launch because I never used it. I did very little console gaming from 1999-2009 or so, thanks to EQ and then WoW. The consoles basically only came on when friends came over.
I logged into EQ enough to level up but i was hard pressed to leave behind all the fun PKing and fight nights!
I played the fuck out of my PS1 and PS2 during EQ. I was always multi-tasking during slow shit + given the fact that we basically found a way to corner every raid boss in the game DPS could pretty much afk-auto attack or use auto-macros for skills. So yeah, that's not an excuse for me not having a Dreamcast - it was just not on my radar and there were very few DC games I ever cared about (and ones I did care about got ported). I bought an absolute ton of PS2 games, even more than I did X360. I have like 113 X360 discs and I had around 160ish PS2 games I think (I have around 100 now, but 45-50 got stolen at one point).
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MS exec admits that the Xbox One debut was mishandled.
http://bgr.com/2013/07/15/xbox-one-g...ing-microsoft/
http://bgr.com/2013/07/15/xbox-one-g...ing-microsoft/
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Watch the Killzone 4 gameplay videos you dumbfuck. It's nothing like the old ones.