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Xarpolis

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We don't even know the speed of the new drives on the PS4 or Xbone. They "might" be spouting 15k Raptors or something. It's unlikely, but they may.
 

Sean_sl

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Sorry, an extra$50if Sony cheaps out and uses a shitty drive again. If Microsoft does, well you're dumb for buying an Xbone, but you're stuck with external USB drives.
 

hodj

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That is a good point Sean - going console does allow a certain level of slack that can't always be done on PC.

hodj: Odd, my electric engineer bro-in-law and sister-in-law were always subscribed to the idea of turning them off as well and one of them was the first suggesting it to me to do so. Perhaps they were wrong though - shrug.
Well, if you think about it, the more you reboot Windows, the more corrupt the files become, too. I don't have to reinstall Windows every year, either. Just replace a hard drive once every couple of years because those tend to wear out quicker because they're moving most of the time.

I dunno. It seems like basic chemistry to me. You apply heat to the components, the molecules move faster, pull apart more. So then when they cool down, that's going to cause shrinkage, which contributes to pulling components apart from one another more, and from the boards they're embedded in. The more frequently you do that, the more often the components wear out.

I could be wrong, but that's my justification for doing it. I used to put it in sleep mode but its always been unfriendly to me so I just leave the thing on.
 

Loser Araysar

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I wake up and I see pages of PCFags being PCFags in a console thread. Clearly we need a PCFags thread.

I think people are underestimating how much power you will need to run a game well. No longer are you going to be able to buy low-mid level stuff and get away with running a game at 90% of its potential. Just look at the leaked Watch Dogs specs (which have actually gone up in a second leak). It's going to take a lot more power to run games, especially going into the next year.

I personally do not want to deal with any of that. I can buy a $400 box and be good enough for the next 6-7 years and being that I'll be playing on a 1080p TV I wouldn't see a noticeable enough upgrade in performance going with a high end PC for me to give a shit.

PC gaming will be great for those who play on 1440p and 2160p monitors that require a boatload of extra power. For those of us who primarily game on TVs these new consoles (or at least the PS4) bring enough to the table that there's not going to be a huge difference when gaming on a 1080p display, especially once they drop cross-gen games and engine optimization gets improved and they push more power out of the little boxes.

Also I'm more poorer than all of you COMBINED. Or something.

Go make a PCFag MasterFags thread.

Take a breath from your oxygen tank, Sean. Your in-call nurse will be by shortly to change your afternoon diaper and wipe the drool from your chin.
 

Nola

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As a 40+ year old gamer I play and enjoy both platforms. I had the joy of experiencing both of them in their infancy stages (Commodore 64 and Atari 2600) to today systems. Never really understood the PC vs console debate. Just seems pointless to me.
 

Vaclav

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As a 40+ year old gamer I play and enjoy both platforms. I had the joy of experiencing both of them in their infancy stages (Commodore 64 and Atari 2600) to today systems. Never really understood the PC vs console debate. Just seems pointless to me.
Heh, that's a nice summary for me that I probably should've stuck to (although not quite 40 yet... still got another 4 weeks...)... both are nice to have if you can afford the money/time/space to make appropriate use of both.

Hodj: Nod, I'm agreeing with you on the fundamentals making sense - I'm not as savvy on the innards as they are, it'll spawn an interesting conversation either way next time we see one of them.
 

Sean_sl

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Alright guys, listen up. Apparently the term "PCfags" hurt some people's feels. Thusly, PCFags, Consolefags, Console Peasants, PC Master Race, and all such terms are Off Limits. Too many feels have been hurts.


(*This post entirely made in jest, anyone bitching about any of those things is just plain gol-darn hilarious.)
 

Ichu

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Not to mention that you can get a 10-12 foot USB extension cable for about $1 online if you need more distance with your controller. I used a wireless controller with my 360 for all of about a week, until I tried to use it one day and it wasn't charged. That was the end of that. Spent a couple bucks on USB extension cords and have used them ever since.
I would say stick to the wireless 360 controller for the PC if you are using it in the living room. Batteries are so cheap now anyways that charging isn't an issue. When I have friends over it's a lot nicer in the living room to have the PC tucked beside the TV stand with the wireless dongle. I cant imagine having four 12 foot USB cables hooked into controllers running across the entire living room.

The wireless 360 controller has had flawless input for me also for the 4-6 months I have had it now, which was my biggest concern when I decided to go wireless =)

*edit*

It's also easier to find cheap wireless controllers if you ever want to get more than one. I got the Tomb Raider special edition version for a second controller for like $30 once the game had been out for a while.
 

Vaclav

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Doesn't look substantially cheaper on wireless ones - wired is looking $35 - so even that TR one you're theorizing is only $5 cheaper - so dongle ($19) + 2 controllers at that price would still be a net loss, and require batteries at some rate...
 

Sean_sl

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How many controllers can the dongle handle? I think I read before that it worked on up to 4 yeah? Does it actually work reliably on that many?
 

Ichu

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There is a wireless + dongle for $37.Amazon.com: Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Controller for Windows: Electronics

But you're right. Now that I look it seems that you'll be able to find controllers within a few bucks of each other regardless of whether they are wired or not.

I mean at the end of the day it's up to you. I only use the controllers when I have friends over or if a game really caters to the controller, so a $12 48 pack of costco batteries gives me a few years worth of battery life. I just am giving my 2 cents that when I put my computer in the living room and have people over to play games, it's a lot nicer having 4 wireless controllers going than the idea of four 12 foot USB cables running across the room. If that's not something you would do then the wired would work awesome.

Now only if the D-pad didn't suck shit on the 360 controller. Even the transforming one on my premium controller is terrible.
 

Ichu

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I haven't had any issues with 4 controller going at the same time. However I only have a few hours of 4 going at at the same time to base that off.
 

Vaclav

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Ahh - I'd seen that SKU but didn't see mention that it included the dongle so I'd assumed it didn't.
 

Sean_sl

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Ouya 2.0?Mad Catz Brings the M.O.J.O. With Its Own Console | Side Mission | GameTrailers

It appears everyone wants a piece of the console pie lately. Following the heels of Android-based gaming hardware Ouya and The Shield comes M.O.J.O., Mad Catz's Android-powered micro-console set for release this December.

Specifications of the console is as follows:
. NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S 1.8GHz Processor
. 2GB RAM
. 16GB internal storage
. HDMI out capabilities with full 1080p resolution
. Bluetooth
. microSD Flash Slot with support for SDXC Cards up to 128GB
. Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n
. Android 4.2.2 operating system

The console will be able to play games from a number of digital marketplaces like Google Play, TegraZone, Amazon, and others. M.O.J.O. will come pre-loaded with Google Play and NVIDIA TegraZone.
It'll support 5.1 channel surround sound and comes with a controller called the GameSmart C.T.R.L.R Wireless Gamepad. The controller will utilize Bluetooth and contains volume and playback controls for video and music. It'll also be able to emulate mouse/touchscreen controls by activating the mouse mode, allowing players to use the left analog stick to move a cursor. It can also be used for other Android devices like your smartphone.
If you're interested, the console will be sold for $249.99 and will be released on December 10, 2013. You can find out more about the micro-console as well as pre-order options at the official site here.
Does this seem like something you would try out? The release date seems a bit late when compared to next-gen consoles and perhaps a bit high when compared to the Ouya.
 

Sean_sl

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New details on The Order 1886, pulled from the latest Game Informer:Tons of new The Order 1886 details - NeoGAF

  • In concept since 2005
  • Trailer graphics are what you can expect it to look like in-game
  • Everything in the world is rendered with soft body physics
  • Metal beams react for example to magnetic forces, bending and shifting in real time
  • Incredible attention to detail: Lens flare catches light as you rotate the camera, oil lamps flash independently in an underground scene, light bouncing off every object provides uncanny realism, insane attention to material detail like wood, leather and cloth.
  • Clouds and particles of dust float around lamp flames, subtely settling down on the camera lense
  • Ready at Dawn spent a lot of time making the weapons unique, giving each personality. Grounded in understandable science but also have behaviors that you wouldn't expect
  • Examples of guns: Arc Gun like you saw in the trailer, Combo Gun has two different settings, you can blow enemies back with a non-lethal charge to make space as well as using standard rifle fire, Thermite Rifle can shoot a chemical onto enemies, using secondary fire to shoot flares to light them on fire, frag grenades can be used typically or hoisted onto the environment via spikes
  • Around 7th or 8th century, humanity splinters, with many getting 'beastial traits', becoming 'half breeds'
  • Thus begins the conflict
  • Humanity basically forms a version of the Knights of the Round Table, in this case, The Order to fight off this enemy
  • Through a strange turn of events, they discover a substance called "black water", giving them unusually long lives and unique ability to recover from injury
  • The Knights continue to age, but at a much, much slower rate which they use to battle for centuries
  • It's basically a curse given they continuously see everything around them leave and die off, it's both a salvation and a curse for them
  • This leads up to the 19th century and the changes facilitate the unique futuristic Industrial Age you see before you
  • You play as Grayson, known as "Sir Galahad" (guy with the porn stache)
  • A new threat emerges as parts of society (humans) begin to rebel against the rulership and are disgruntled with the inequality between layers of society
  • Battle scenes are chaotic and exciting, with use of cover, somewhat similar to of Gears of War
  • Ready at Dawn took a unique twist to QTEs, sometimes melee attacks occur during gameplay, time slows down and you can rotate your camera and find different things in the environment to give you an edge. These can range from dodging a punch or grabbing an improvised weapon for example
  • Focused on a very strong story driven single player now, not willing to talk about any multiplayer
 

Utnayan

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Well, to be fair, the thread does say Xbone Vs PS4 Vs PC. So since this thread is not based on consoles only, I do not think it is out of bounds at all to discuss why people should bypass this console generation entirely, especially since Steam has their shit together with great gaming deals, and with cross platform development, PC ports utilize the same type of controller control natively, with an addition of running in higher resolution and more power. The price difference after accessories isn't far off these days. Add in additional yearly fees to play games online which doesn't exist on the PC, the same functionality for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime - - Aside from some exclusives, the long run haul compared to what we have seen on market place pricing for Xbone (A joke) and even taking account better deals on the PS store and value of PS Plus - with Steam sales, mod-ability of PC games, the only thing really holding anyone from just using a PC in their living room becomes 8-10 games over the spam of a consoles life.

It isn't like these are the days of SNES/Genesis, or even 360/PS3 any longer. The market has changed in a rapid PC comeback, and with Sony and MS being so behind the 8-ball while the nickel and diming continues, PC makes the most sense when looking at overall cost to value. Again, purely in most part because of Steam, GMG, GOG, and new Amazon digital deals.
 

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If gaming is a serious passion for you then passing up a console generation isn't an option.