Xexx
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They posted on twitter months ago that they would work, thats why i have these expensive ass headphones still. For them to suddenly say "oh they will work.....later!" is inexcusable.
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Utnayan
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This is what is hurting them as well, and why people should go more towards a Steam based set top box, and while we wait for it to come, build your own. New controllers (Controllers can EASILY be backwards compatible this generation), New Headsets for those that spend anywhere from $49-$199 for nice headphone/sets, ridiculous and people should be outright appalled. These are the bullshit consumer unfriendly backroom nickle/dime meetings that cause consumer angst, accessibility issues, and people get pissed about it. And the hold back hits the entire supply chain of products/services as a result. From base install to game sales as a result.
It isn't surprising that consumer friendly devices do so well (at least in the US, I am guessing other places as well) when this shit continues to happen which doesn't build value or brand loyalty * AT ALL *. Why do people love Steam so much? User friendly, accessible, great deals and sales, and they put the customer first. As a result? Gaben is swimming in cash.
It amazes me that this simple fucking concept falls on so many deaf and dumb shit ears across this industry, especially in game design/publishing.
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Sony fail at 'nickel and dime'ing since they intend to make the existing headsets compatible and pack a headset with the PS4. Also they don't manufacture nor sell fighting sticks...
In the long list of things they need and/or want to do with the system's OS, compatibility with these headsets just happen to be too low to be guaranteed to be done by launch.
In the long list of things they need and/or want to do with the system's OS, compatibility with these headsets just happen to be too low to be guaranteed to be done by launch.
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Yeah, seems like an overstep on thinking them nefarious. If they really wanted the cash grab they'd simply make them incompatible, not delay it.
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Honestly the delay makes it more sound like "They might work, but we're not gonna get around to testing all of them, so some might not work or act goofy until we get them tested and tweaked for" to me because sensibly that'll be the easiest way for them to get the data on which need what tweaks since they'll have an "infinite" tester pool once PS4 is live.
Utnayan
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Oh come on now. You know as well as I do the tie in between these accessories companies and the forced upgrade paths, whether Sony manufacturers the accessories or not. The plain simple fact a USB FIGHTING STICK somehow becomes incompatible is flat out highway robbery.
Do they know they are both kicking their own ass right now? They will feel it soon enough next gen.
PS: They * Are * incompatible from a control side.
I love how $100+ accessories to be compatible from a voice communication stand point outside of TOSlink is a low priority. What's high priority? Meetings on charging 50 bucks a year for multiplayer options?
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Who is going to feel what next gen? Sony is going to feel it because they didn't implement Fight Stick drivers at launch? C'mon now...
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Ut: On PS4 - I've got friends within GS corporate still and have one that's quoted to me from ACTUAL USE that at least one of his off-brand controllers works fine input wise except for the Select/PS/Start buttons in the middle of the controller, the actual game inputs themselves are absolutely fine with PS4 as it stands right now. (I think he said it was a Nyko cheapass wired one? I forget, I just know he tested one and quoted that it worked)
That example might be an outlier, but at least some of the cases seem that they'll be similar where the primary inputs work just the secondary buttons will be wonky for a bit.
That example might be an outlier, but at least some of the cases seem that they'll be similar where the primary inputs work just the secondary buttons will be wonky for a bit.
Soygen
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Sony is doing everything they can to get this launched before MS this year and things like 3rd party controller drivers are not the highest priority. Just because it's a USB device, doesn't mean it doesn't require system-specific drivers like any other USB device. I don't put anything past big companies like MS and Sony, but I think Ut is reading more "evil" in this situation than there really is.
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Shouldn't it be Call of Doody: Ghosts since you'll be having to pooper scooper behind Fido?
Utnayan
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Yes. They will. Why?
Because they are slow to react, are both (All 3) out of touch with their market, and the market is not only changing from a demographic, but from a logistical delivery point.
No one said Sony would stand a chance against Sega or Nintendo either.
Get ready for change. It's long overdue.
And I don't care from a business perspective on consoles if something is a niche or not, a device sold for folks to like those games has zero reason why it shouldn't carry over. But I guarantee you you won't have to worry about that soon.
This industry is about to be blown wide the fuck open. And you won't see Sony, MS or Nintendo leading any market capture next gen. This is the last of their days seeing massive success in the living room.
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When you say next gen do you mean the one starting next month or the one after that, in like 7+ years? If it's the latter, then there's no point in even discussing this right now. Granted, I think you're wrong in either case.
Utnayan
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Sorry yeah after this generation. Actually, I would say in the middle. But you are correct. Better saved for the next discussion thread. Either way, Sony and Microsoft did neither of themselves any favors with gamers, and when Steam comes into the mix, and it will, with features, accessibility and the same applications without paywalls - it isn't going to take long for the target market to take hold. Just look at how the PC market rebounded.
Of course MS and Sony will follow - because they are followers - not leaders.