The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Frenzied Wombat_sl said:

Ok, so please excuse me in advance for not browsing through 500+ pages of opinions, and I assume most of the votes were formed early, but what is the (relatively) final consensus on which platform/box will be better? I currently own a PS3 but am certainly not married to the platform whatsoever. Besides the occasional game that catches my interest, I mainly use it as a DLNA player, blu-ray player, and to rent/but movies from the PS store. Last game I really liked was The Last of Us.

If it helps, I have ZERO interest in sports games or 1st person shooters (seriously, fuck 1st person shooters already). Love RPG's (NOT cutesy JRPG's tho), adventure games, and strategy games ( a la X-com). My main complaint with the PS3 was that all the RPG's were Japanese style, but never really compared the X-box selection.

Also, any plans to ever add mouse support to the PS4/XOne? I love playing games on my big TV in the living room, but any game that also exists for the PC I just can't stand to play on a console because the controls feel like crap compared to a computer mouse.

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You'll want to keep your PS3 as a Media Server for the time being. DLNA will be added to the PS4, but it won't be in for launch. You'll be able to play blu-rays and rent/buy movies on it just fine though. It'll have Netflix/Hulu/etc too.

I don't know what you're talking about with the PS3 not comparing to the X360 on RPGs. The X360 pretty much only had Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, and Tales of Vesperia in its first couple years as exclusives and had no unique RPGs after those for the entire rest of the generation. The X360 paled in comparison to PS3 exclusives on just about every front.

Mouse/KB support beyond Chat is unlikely to ever happen.

The PS4 will likely be the better platform. It's undeniably more powerful and significantly easier to develop for. Sony also has a far better track record with exclusives and they are doing an amazing job with getting Indie developers onto their platform. The Xbone is a weaker, more expensive machine and Microsoft has a bad trackrecord with exclusive games.

Mouse/KB works in certain games much like on PS3. For instance it works on PS3 for FF14 and we've been told it will be in for FF14 for PS4.

Sean_sl said:

You'll want to keep your PS3 as a Media Server for the time being. DLNA will be added to the PS4, but it won't be in for launch. You'll be able to play blu-rays and rent/buy movies on it just fine though. It'll have Netflix/Hulu/etc too.

I don't know what you're talking about with the PS3 not comparing to the X360 on RPGs. The X360 pretty much only had Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, and Tales of Vesperia in its first couple years as exclusives and had no unique RPGs after those for the entire rest of the generation. The X360 paled in comparison to PS3 exclusives on just about every front.

Mouse/KB support beyond Chat is unlikely to ever happen.

The PS4 will likely be the better platform. It's undeniably more powerful and significantly easier to develop for. Sony also has a far better track record with exclusives and they are doing an amazing job with getting Indie developers onto their platform. The Xbone is a weaker, more expensive machine and Microsoft has a bad trackrecord with exclusive games.

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Sorry, I meant to say that the PS3 mainly had JRPG's and I never bothered to compare what the X-box had available. Was holding onto a fantasy that there were a slew of (quality) North American made RPG's all lined up for one of the platforms. I dreamed a dream that Planescape 2 was the launch title for PS4..

Heckler_sl said:

How bad did it look?

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Dunno, havent seen it myself yet.

Theres 2 reviews on here saying the console doesnt look much better then the last gen, and a read about 7 more saying the same thing on other boards.
This is from playing games off the demo units.

I just know my PC is a beast, and makes every game look insane at max settings. So I think I made a mistake getting AC4 for the PS4.

Column_sl said:

Theres 2 reviews on here saying the console doesnt look much better then the last gen, and a read about 7 more saying the same thing on other boards.
This is from playing games off the demo units.

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Well, that's just absolutely moronic.

Column_sl said:

Dunno, havent seen it myself yet.

Theres 2 reviews on here saying the console doesnt look much better then the last gen, and a read about 7 more saying the same thing on other boards.
This is from playing games off the demo units.

I just know my PC is a beast, and makes every game look insane at max settings. So I think I made a mistake getting AC4 for the PS4.

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I think it may just be more of having unrealistic expectations of a quick Ubisoft port where the only thing they did was set the renderer at 1080p, added some lighting, weather, and smoke/debris effects, and called it a day. There's also better animations and more "sway" to stuff in the environment:Assassins Creed IV On PS4 Is Worth The Extra Wait

The PC version likely isn't any different than that. Grats on cross-gen ports. Hopefully they are gone within the next year or two.

Not really, if what they say is true I will always go for the PC version vs the console version from now on.

I don't have to make sacrifices in visuals to obtain 60fps on my rig.

Early Xbox One users detail launch game install sizes

The largest download sizes come from titles such as Battlefield 4 (33GB) and Call of Duty: Ghosts (39GB). Ryse is 34GB while Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag is 20GB

[Full list on the link]

Early Xbox One users detail launch game install sizes Eurogamer.net

So there's this weird pre-order thing for a free to play PS4 game:http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/...uses-detailed/

You don't pay anything, you just download something early and get that I guess. Ends on November 12th from the looks of it, but right now the link to it on the Sony store is down. Can still do it through your PS3, I think.

Though I doubt that anyone here is really interested in that game in the first place (self included).

Warframe is alright, it just gets boring as fuck.

The designs, and the atmosphere are really cool tho. I wish they would have just made a single player story game with it.

1) Have you gotten Skylanders before and 2) do you have kids?

If the answer is No to 1 and Yes to 2, be prepared. You're about to buy afuckloadof toys!

meStevo_sl said:

We have a 2.5 year old who doesn't know what to do with video games yet and wife plays the Skylanders game on her Kindle. That's the amount of exposure we've had. I absolutely love the idea of it though and wouldn't be opposed to throwing some shelving up for display purposes

Have shown gameplay video to my wife and she's interested, just a matter of having time (2nd kid due in March)

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Hahah, godspeed sir, many Skylander figures are in your future.

So can everyone in your family have a unique gamer tag and all play on the same ps+ account online? Plus does anyone know what kind of parental controls the ps4 and ps+ will have?

you may want to look at the disney infinity (?) stuff too, my kids are really into it but not into spyro at all. i have no idea what the difference is or anything, it all seems retarded as fuck to me

Frenzied Wombat_sl said:

If it helps, I have ZERO interest in sports games or 1st person shooters (seriously, fuck 1st person shooters already). Love RPG's (NOT cutesy JRPG's tho), adventure games, and strategy games ( a la X-com). My main complaint with the PS3 was that all the RPG's were Japanese style, but never really compared the X-box selection.

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Theres no reason for you to get either one right now, almost all the games are pretty much aimed at teenagers, sportsbros, and FPSers and afaik no RPGs, adventure games, or strategy games are due out soon. Upgrade your PC to the latest beefy and best and look at Steam indie games, there are a fuckton of new RPG and adventure games that are all quite amazing and mostly on PC. Stuff like walking dead, new Baldurs Gate Enhanced (BGII:EE coming out this week), and just literally a billion little indie games that are pretty amazing and cheap. I played Brothers and it was just an awesome adventure game, and I have really loved some of the Gauntlet/Fortress games (Bastion?) too. Steam winter sales begins in a few weeks too where stuff will be 50-75% off.

In a year or two I'm sure a ton of the best indie games will be ported over to ps4/xbone, but then we'll have the steambox by then too.

Abefroman_sl said:

So can everyone in your family have a unique gamer tag and all play on the same ps+ account online? Plus does anyone know what kind of parental controls the ps4 and ps+ will have?

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I'm not well versed on the parent controls are at all, unfortunately.

It has been confirmed however that you only need 1 PS+ account and anyone who plays on the primary system for it gets *all* of the benefits of that PS+ account.

What you're looking for is probably in here:http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/...north-america/

Sean_sl said:

I'm not well versed on the parent controls are at all, unfortunately.

It has been confirmed however that you only need 1 PS+ account and anyone who plays on the primary system for it gets *all* of the benefits of that PS+ account.

What you're looking for is probably in here:http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/...north-america/

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Thanks.

@meStevo Infinity is not coming to the ps4 or xbone. The sequel is going to and all the toys and base thingy will be future proof and compatible with the next gen systems. This skylanders shit is gonna make me bankrupt.

How Mandatory Game Installations Will Work On PS4

Call it installation or call it caching, but the bottom line is that you will have to save large chunks of PlayStation 4 games to the system's hard drive. It's not an option. It's mandatory on Sony's next-gen system. Today, at a stylish waterfront hotel in New York City that's been taken over by Sony for all things PS4, the system's lead architect, Mark Cerny, explained just how these requirements work.

If you are playing a disc-based game, the system will begin caching the disc when you put it in the console and get ready to play. The game is saving part of itself to the system's hard drive. The amount of data that has to be saved before you can start will vary per title.

Cerny said that for the launch game he directed, Knack, users should only have to wait 10s of seconds to play the game. After that, as you play, the game will stream more content to the console's 500GB hard drive. Knack will use 37GB of space overall, as noted on the game's box. Obviously, it won't take many games to fill the console's hard drive.

Cached/installed game data will stay on the hard drive until the user deletes it. Cerny said that there had been some internal discussions at Sony about having the PS4 auto-delete installed data from games that players hadn't used in a while. They decided against it, figuring that gamers would never want to feel "blindsided" and would prefer to make their data management decisions manually. Probably a good choice!

The disc installation is required on PS4 because the console is not designed to read games off of discs. It's not a PlayStation issue. It's a physics issue. The machine may have a Blu-Ray drive that's about three times faster than the PS3 with about six times as much memory, but it's still more expedient for it to read data from its own hard drive. Cerny said his team had heard too many complaints from current-gen developers about having to wait to load in new levels of games. Putting the data on the readily-accessible hard drive alleviates that.

Not surprisingly, Microsoft's Xbox One requires installation from Blu-Ray, too, and only runs games off the hard drive.

If a PS4 user decides to download a game, they will have to wait longer to play. Cerny couldn't provide as narrow an estimate on how long a player who decided to download Knack would have to wait. That depends in large part on a user's Internet connection speed. Ideally, he said, they wouldn't have to wait more than an hour before beginning to play the partially downloaded games. Other games may be set up differently, allowing users to start playing them sooner or requiring them to wait longer. With these kinds of download speeds and requirements, players may want to queue their PS4 downloads long before they want to start gaming or download in the background while doing something else. Or just drive to the store and get a disc.

We'll have much more about the PS4 in the coming days as well as a review of the system at 9am ET, on Wednesday, November 13.