The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

radditsu · Mar 12, 2015

2 years ago the eagles had a good o line. They may get better luck with the injury bug this year. They arent Dallas. But they made a division rival worse and got a decent talent. Injuries are 1000% the key this year.

Drakurii · Mar 12, 2015

Dallas will have a below than avg. running game this season. Leaving it up to Tony Romo throwing the ball 35 to 40 times per game and right on script he will go back to throwing INT's at the worst times possible just like all the years before last.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Foggy_sl said:
Nobody is claiming the Cowboys are better without him. They are a worse football team right now without him. However, the Cowboys are better off spending the money on more important positions and replacing one of the most replaceable positions with a cheap player/rookie. They don't have the cap room and the defense needs help bad.

Like what? Who's out there that will bring the upside that Murray brings? Serious question.

Agenor · Mar 12, 2015

Charles Robinson ?@CharlesRobinson 21s22 seconds ago
NFL source tells Yahoo Sports it's done: Jordan Cameron has signed with the Miami #Dolphins.

Last I heard Jordan Cameron was signing back with Cleveland. Thought Clay was going to stay, and then Dolphins swoop in late to get Cameron. Love the move, but a risk with the concussion issue.

moontayle · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
Like what? Who's out there that will bring the upside that Murray brings? Serious question.

With that line? I stop shy of saying anyone, but as long as they're not stupid I bet you get 1000 yards out of whoever takes over. The offense feeds off the run game, and they stick to it, but the last six games of the season, when Murray wasn't nearly as productive, that offense showed their true balance. This is also a deep running back draft class. If Dallas had to lose him, then this is the perfect year to find his replacement.

Edit: And sometimes, sometimes the line really is what makes the back. Starting with Terrell Davis and leading up to Shanahan's departure Denver basically had a string of 1k+ backs. Pretty much none of them had success anywhere else.

Edit2: I stand somewhat correct, Clinton Portis had pretty good success outside of Denver.

Foggy · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
Like what? Who's out there that will bring the upside that Murray brings? Serious question.

It isn't just about replacement. It is about replacement plus the other players this lets you sign/resign.

Famm · Mar 12, 2015

I can't believe Convo is going full Araysar retard over this wack ass Eagles offseason. Temper your expectations man, its not good for you to be so unrealistic.

http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

Eagles sign RB DeMarco Murray (5 years, $42M; $21M guaranteed): C Grade
Whenthe Eagles appeared to sign Ryan Mathews yesterday, I wrote that the team had the most injury-prone backfield in NFL history. Mathews apparently didn't sign with Philadelphia after all, but it still applies: Even with the addition of Murray, the Eagles have the most injury-prone backfield the league has ever seen.

Paying Murray this sort of money - or any running back with a large workload under his belt, for that matter - is a big mistake. Murray had a whopping 498 touches last year, including the playoffs. That's crazy. Murray, who led the NFL in carries by a wide margin during the regular season (393), is bound to regress. A fantasy football-related study I've been posting over the past six seasons shows that running backs who lead the NFL in carries decline the following year. There have only been a handful of exceptions. Perhaps Murray will be one, but history is against him.

There are three other reasons why this is a sketchy signing. First, Murray has an extensive injury history. Prior to the 2014 campaign, Murray had failed to play a full season in his professional career, having missed 11 games in three years. Given how many times he handled the ball in 2014, it's likely that he'll be banged up next season. Second, this incoming running back draft class is loaded, so Philadelphia could've easily found a cheaper replacement for LeSean McCoy next month. And third, some of Murray's success last season came because of the offensive line. Murray is an outstanding player, no doubt, but his numbers were definitely inflated. Some people who have no idea what they're talking about are trying to argue that the Eagles have just as good of an offensive line as Dallas, but with Evan Mathis reportedly on the trading block and Jason Peters turning 33 this offseason, that's simply not the case.

This is not an awful signing because Murray will be a dynamic play-maker when he's on the field for the Eagles. However, he's too expensive, he's going to miss time, and he won't be as effective as he was last year, given that he's bound to wear down.

Comparatively:

Ravens re-sign RB Justin Forsett (3 years, $9 million): A- Grade
I imagine Ozzie Newsome had a good laugh this week while observing teams that routinely miss the playoffs overpay for overworked running backs. Newsome, one of the best general managers in the business, was not going to make that mistake. Thus, he re-signed his feature back to a 3-year deal worth just $9 million.

This is an incredible bargain for Forsett. The former journeyman running back found a home in Baltimore last season and managed to rush for 1,266 yards on just 235 carries. He definitely benefited from Gary Kubiak's zone-blocking scheme, but new offensive coordinator Marc Trestman did great work with Matt Forte in Chicago. Trestman will turn Forsett into a pass-catching machine.

The one slight downside of this deal is that Forsett will turn 30 in October. But that's not much of a concern because Forsett doesn't even have 600 career carries under his belt, so like Fred Jackson, he could play effectively into his 30s.

Sterling · Mar 12, 2015

Agenor_sl said:
Charles Robinson ?@CharlesRobinson 21s22 seconds ago
NFL source tells Yahoo Sports it's done: Jordan Cameron has signed with the Miami #Dolphins.

Last I heard Jordan Cameron was signing back with Cleveland. Thought Clay was going to stay, and then Dolphins swoop in late to get Cameron. Love the move, but a risk with the concussion issue.

Yeah, I liked Clay, but Cameron is a good get.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Famm_sl said:
I can't believe Convo is going full Araysar retard over this wack ass Eagles offseason. Temper your expectations man, its not good for you to be so unrealistic.

http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

Comparatively:

Where will you be next season when you're wrong!? That's the question.

If Eagles make playoffs, was it a a good off season?

sebur · Mar 12, 2015

So apparently the Saints are shopping pretty much their entire roster aside from Brees and Cooks who are safe. If they aren't fully shopping the person they are at the least willing to listen to any offers around any person on the team aside from Brees and Cooks. So far we got Unger and Browner which I am pleased and could give a fuck less about soft ass Graham being gone. Doesn't bother me a bit. I like this no one is safe mentality.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Foggy_sl said:
It isn't just about replacement. It is about replacement plus the other players this lets you sign/resign.

So basically what we did with trading McCoy to pick up a possible stud at LB then signing the top free agent RB??

Foggy · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
So basically what we did with trading McCoy to pick up a possible stud at LB then signing the top free agent RB??

Didn't say it was a bad move for Philly. It would have been a bad signing for Dallas. Those are independent issues, which you are having a hard time realizing.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Foggy_sl said:
Didn't say it was a bad move for Philly. It would have been a bad signing for Dallas. Those are independent issues, which you are having a hard time realizing.

Not really. We traded a top RB and signed a top RB. The argument is Dallas fans are butthurt and are now saying Murray was a product of the O Line and not a top RB. I'm calling bs and saying unless you get AP you're not going to have a year like last season. That's what Murray did for that team. Dallas doesn't make playoffs unless they land a top RB. Eagles do and Murray remains a stud.

BrutulTM · Mar 12, 2015

We shouldn't get carried away with the whole "plug and play running back" scenario. The strategy where you draft a guy high, use him for a few years and then draft another guy high and let the other one go before his second contract is a real strategy, but it doesn't apply to top 5 guys. You don't just replace somebody like Lynch/Bell/McCoy/Petersen with a rookie and not expect to see a drop off. Whether Murray is one of those guys may remain to be seen, but he sure as hell looked like one last season.

Grimmlokk · Mar 12, 2015

Genjiro_sl said:
Hahaha Jason Worilds retired

Worilds - Age 27 - Est. $13.5 million earned

Patrick Willis - Barely 30 - Est. $42.5 million earned

Jake Locker - Age 26 - Est. $12.5 million earned

3 guys that are quite young and have earned enough money to be comfortable for life all retiring from the NFL when they could absolutely keep playing and earning more. This could be a sign of things to come. Everyone knows that the NFL destroys you physically. If you are lucky/good enough to make it there and get one good contract it's not exactly insanity to just get the fuck out with your health relatively intact.

It sounds crazy to us average Joes. The money is just insane, how can you walk away from that? The answer for these guys appears to be with plenty of money already and no limp. And I wouldn't be surprised to see it more in the coming years.

Denjoy · Mar 13, 2015

Phazael_sl said:
and we lost Bulaga.

He got re-signed like 2 days ago. 5 yr/34mil

Merrith · Mar 13, 2015

There were 7 RB's last year that averaged as many or more yards/carry as DMM with at least 200+ carries.

Don't get me wrong, Murray is a very good RB. It's not like the Eagles got younger at the position though going from McCoy to Murray...and that many touches last year? Expect at least some regression this season.

Grimmlokk · Mar 13, 2015

Merrith_sl said:
There were 7 RB's last year that averaged as many or more yards/carry as DMM with at least 200+ carries.

Misleading stat. Hell of a lot harder to average 4.7 YPC for 390+ carries than for a bit more on ~220. No one ahead of him had within 130 carries of him. Foster was .1 ahead of him with 132 fewer carries. Guys with any significant advantage on him in YPC are 235(Forsett) or fewer carries.

Not that I disagree with the second half of the post, just the logic of the first half.

Genjiro · Mar 13, 2015

Sooooo....congrats to the Miami Dolphins winning the 2015 Daniel Snyder award

Profundis · Mar 13, 2015

Brian Orakpo to the Titans

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