The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

Muurloen · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
He's basically to Dallas what lynch is to Seattle. You're just trying to ease the pain. Best year Dallas had in a long time was due in large part to him and now he's gone. You don't just replace guys like that. Not sure what you're smoking. AP is only chance Dallas has and he might cost a lot with picks and salary

The offensive line made Murray, not Murray made the line better.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Muurloen_sl said:
The offensive line made Murray, not Murray made the line better.

Murray was always good. I'd say he's a top 3 RB next year.

Tenks · Mar 12, 2015

It is pretty easy to put up monster yardage when you get the ball nearly every down, have a dominate offensive line and have Dez Bryant pulling the defense back so they can't just stack the box every down. I'm not saying he's a bad player or anything I just wouldn't pay any RB other than pre-abuse Peterson that kind of money. DMM is no Peterson who did this shit by himself. DMM appeared to be more a product of the offensive gameplan and the other players on the field. I imagine if you plugged Jeremy Hill into last year and gave him the touches of DMM he'd have a very comparable season.

Kedwyn · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
Murray was always good. I'd say he's a top 3 RB next year.

Doubt that very much.

If Dallas signs AP they will be difficult to stop assuming they can stay healthy. That would be an amazing sign.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Tenks_sl said:
It is pretty easy to put up monster yardage when you get the ball nearly every down, have a dominate offensive line and have Dez Bryant pulling the defense back so they can't just stack the box every down. I'm not saying he's a bad player or anything I just wouldn't pay any RB other than pre-abuse Peterson that kind of money. DMM is no Peterson who did this shit by himself. DMM appeared to be more a product of the offensive gameplan and the other players on the field. I imagine if you plugged Jeremy Hill into last year and gave him the touches of DMM he'd have a very comparable season.

Have you looked at his career stats or are you just talking last season? He's always produced. His health has been the issue.

We signed Matthews too. So less carries for sure.

Tenks · Mar 12, 2015

My response and scope was only last season

Xevy · Mar 12, 2015

Except Dallas has the defensive ability of wet paper. They're like a bizarro Colts where their run game will be very strong and their pass game heavily reliant on Dez getting open.

Faltigoth · Mar 12, 2015

I think I would take McCoy over Demarco Murray any day of the week. What the fuck man, I want to believe but Chip is making it very hard. I understand total team reconstruction and getting your own guys in there, but the only things that really sucked about the team last year were the secondary and the outrageous amount of QB turnovers.

I would not call the Eagles a team in need of a total rebuild; they were a team in need of Revis and a quarterback who recognized the appropriate color jerseys to throw to. This shit feels like a team that went 2-14 getting rebuilt from scratch instead of a 10-6 team that only missed the playoffs because of some epic bedshittery in 3 of the last 4 games.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

I loved shady but it's obvious chip wanted a more north/south guy that took 1 step and ran thru a hole. Shady isn't that kind of back, Murray is and still has great hands.

moontayle · Mar 12, 2015

You have to be trolling with that last comment. Murray started the season with a fumble in the first 4(5?) games and he also fumbled in the game against GB.

Here something else to think about. Football Outsiders graded Dallas the BEST team in the league for Adjusted Line Yards. Philly ranked 30th. And last I checked they didn't go out of their way to bolster that O-line any. Along with that, Dallas was second best in Open Field yards (their RBs were good) and Philly was sixth (their RBs were also good). From thepage:

A team with a high ranking in Adjusted Line Yards but a low ranking in Open Field Yards is heavily dependent on its offensive line to make the running game work. A team with a low ranking in Adjusted Line Yards but a high ranking in Open Field Yards is heavily dependent on its running back breaking long runs to make the running game work.

Basically, if Murray really is all that then he's really going to have to prove it in Philly, because that line won't be any help.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

moontayle_sl said:
You have to be trolling with that last comment. Murray started the season with a fumble in the first 4(5?) games and he also fumbled in the game against GB.

Here something else to think about. Football Outsiders graded Dallas the BEST team in the league for Adjusted Line Yards. Philly ranked 30th. And last I checked they didn't go out of their way to bolster that O-line any. Along with that, Dallas was second best in Open Field yards (their RBs were good) and Philly was sixth (their RBs were also good). From thepage:

Basically, if Murray really is all that then he's really going to have to prove it in Philly, because that line won't be any help.

Another person who hasn't looked at Murrays career numbers.

Zzen · Mar 12, 2015

Convo, stop making me agree with Cowboy fans...it feels dirty.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

they are so happy he's gone thier burning his jersey..

dallas isn't better off without him. I don't care what these people are saying.

Sutekh · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
they are so happy he's gonethierburning his jersey..

dallas isn't better off without him. I don't care what these people are saying.

You spelled the wrong form of they're wrong.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Sutekh_sl said:
You spelled the wrong form of they're wrong.

You're right. Thank mate

Chanur · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
I loved shady but it's obvious chip wanted a more north/south guy that took 1 step and ran thru a hole. Shady isn't that kind of back, Murray is and still has great hands.

Matthew's is no slouch either. He just can't stay healthy.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Chanur_sl said:
Matthew's is no slouch either. He just can't stay healthy.

He's good. Its going to be interesting to see how they get the ball to all these guys. I think the tempo will be even faster next year on offense.

Foggy · Mar 12, 2015

Convo_sl said:
they are so happy he's gone thier burning his jersey..

dallas isn't better off without him. I don't care what these people are saying.

Nobody is claiming the Cowboys are better without him. They are a worse football team right now without him. However, the Cowboys are better off spending the money on more important positions and replacing one of the most replaceable positions with a cheap player/rookie. They don't have the cap room and the defense needs help bad.

Rengak · Mar 12, 2015

The Eagles are going to have one high scoring IR next season.

Convo · Mar 12, 2015

Best backfield in the league?!

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