The Division 2

Yeah, I know about the nerf, but it's still a good talent. Maybe not better than Hard Hitting anymore, but there's always the possibility of getting an ideal mask drop that only takes an active talent instead of a passive one.

And I don't use Sharpshooter at all anymore, which makes Dialed In a bit more appealing. The grenade launcher alone trumps everything SS/Surv specs have by a large margin imo so unless there's some major changes there tomorrow it's still Demo-for-life.

A friend of mine is trying to get me to play this. I'm not really a Call of Duty, battlefield, or arena type of person, but I enjoy shooter looters like Destiny/Anthem. I rarely spend retail price on games, I'm cheap. So I'm just kind of looking for references on the game? Am I just missing the boat? Have I missed the boat starting this late? etc.

Haven't missed shit, you can get caught up in a day. Maybe two days but really all the time would be spent just getting to level 30. Would recommend. You can group up with your friend and have him do some control points or missions with you and give you all the World Tier 4 450 ilvl gear so you're ready to roll as soon as you hit 30.

Daidraco said:

A friend of mine is trying to get me to play this. I'm not really a Call of Duty, battlefield, or arena type of person, but I enjoy shooter looters like Destiny/Anthem. I rarely spend retail price on games, I'm cheap. So I'm just kind of looking for references on the game? Am I just missing the boat? Have I missed the boat starting this late? etc.

Click to expand...

No it’s all good. Catching up can be super fast. Have clans on all systems.

Chimney said:

They stealth nerfed dialed in if you didn't notice I think in the last patch. I'm also using Sharpshooter primarily and because of it I'm either maxed or close to max stability with every weapon so it's a wasted talent at the moment. Same boat as you with around 140 played, but I'm pretty much as min/maxed as I can get while trying to keep specific talents and the inability to recalibrate more than 1 slot. Been sitting at 457GS without a usable upgrade drop in literally an entire week of play.

Click to expand...

Yeah, about where I am too, although only 100ish hours. Think I'm 457 as well. Really just waiting on WT5 so I can get serious.

Last week has just been finishing side quests, farming keys, finishing up specializations, and farming blueprints. I kind of stopped paying attention to item drops.

Figures I get the ideal AK setup (yay 7.62 extended mag finally) the day before next WT. Well, third trait isn't ideal I guess but it rolling Allegro and high damage (assuming my math is right, 12953 out of a possible 9401 - 13749 range) is pretty great.

That's not normalized stats...

So they've nerfed all weapon mods, nerfed crit builds to shit, and nerfed all skills. And they also didn't adjust enemy armor/hp.

My guess is anything on challenging or higher difficulty is going to suck ass for at least the next week.

Wish I'd knocked out the last dozen or so CP3's I needed before the patch.

Edit: Also, holy shit at how bad the LMG exotic is. What the fuck? Why even bother?

Gravel said:

So they've nerfed all weapon mods, nerfed crit builds to shit, and nerfed all skills. And they also didn't adjust enemy armor/hp.

My guess is anything on challenging or higher difficulty is going to suck ass for at least the next week.

Wish I'd knocked out the last dozen or so CP3's I needed before the patch.

Edit: Also, holy shit at how bad the LMG exotic is. What the fuck? Why even bother?

Click to expand...

I guess you hit elites 20x. They and others get dick rot. 200% damage increase! So a whopping 12K damage. Ya. Why bother.

The weapon mod changes make me think the dude who designed them with +/- is a spiteful prick who just said, "Oh, you don't like my mods? You don't want negatives? Well, fuck you then, I'll just make them all dogshit, let's see how you like them now!"

Both the 5.56 and 7.62 mags got gimped down to +10 rounds. Pretty sure that makes FAMAS the best AR like my prediction that I really did not want to come true. Mostly since the FAMAS handles like shit no matter how much stability you have. Strangely, the 9mm extended mag got bumped UP to +20 rounds, but that's because it still has a drawback (-reload speed). Maybe the Study Extended 5.56/7.62 Mags will end up being the same, but the spreadsheet says they're from weekly projects and not CP3's. Could be a long fucking time before some people get lucky with that, if it's true. [Edit: People on reddit who had the Sturdy mags pre-patch are saying they've been removed from the game.]

EXPS3 sight is now elite dmg and there's no CHC scope at all. No CHC muzzles except for SMGs. Laser pointers got nerfed, but the Demo spec one is still 7% at least (but also still annoying because every time you change specs to get ammo you have to re-equip the mod on your guns). Net change, I lost 17% CHC on my AR and 7% on my SMG.


Specific-weapon dmg rolls on gloves got nerfed a bit. Cap on mine varied from 11-13% and now they're all 10%.


Didn't notice any nerfs to skills, but I only use chem/hive still. New chem controls are awkward as hell. I had just gotten used to pressing L1 once to use it, and now we're back to pressing it twice to drop the chems at your feet. Actual heal doesn't seem any less than it was, still fast CD, etc. Not sure if they fixed the issue with revive hive not working if you'd just used another skill.

I'm noticing some strange behavior while trying to get my gear score up. Like I did a bounty right away and stuff dropped at close to 470 from it. But if I fast travel around to loot crates at CPs that are green, I get shit that's around 451-455. Can't tell yet if there was a nerf to open world boxes or if it's just some weirdness from the WT4->5 transition.