The E-cig Thread

I picked smoking back up again after quitting for 6 years due to a stressful job and i hate it. Some of my friends have vaped for years and so i finally broke down and bought a good kit. Aspire Odessey kit that includes the Pegasus box mod and Triton tank. After picking it up 7 days ago i've had 3/4 of a pack of cigs and none in the last 4 days. The guy at the counter was surprised that i would go direct into sub ohm but honestly i love it. They started me off with some 4ml juice but i sucked that bottle dry almost the first day. 8 was too much of a throat hit so 6 seems to be my sweet spot.

The Pegasus mod has every bell and whistle you could ask. Auto rotating display, 1-70 watts, easy top fill, automatic coil sensing including switchover to temp control, an optional RTA kit, etc, etc. It fits great in my hand and has a good weight to it. The air vents at the bottom of the Triton tank are almost too much but you can easily adjust them to any preference. Just over half open works great for me. There is also a vent at the mouthpiece that's adjustable to help cool off the draw but i find i don't need it. I did have a slight leaking issue out of the bottom vents with the pre-installed .5 ohm coil however. This does not seem to be uncommon with 50/50 mixes it seems. After digging around it appears the Atlantis coils fit perfectly in the mod and so i went with them. Essentially identical in every way to the Triton coils and yet the leakage went away immediately. Nice large air holes in the bottom of the coil and huge liquid holes in the sides for lots of liquid draw. The coil definitely has a break-in period where it's recommended to run in the middle of the listed range (20-30 watt) but after 2 days i've cranked it up and with the juice i have 35 watts works amazing. Great flavor, good vapor, clean draw, direct to lung.

My firstZampleBox | Best E-Liquid & Best E-Juice Subscription | Best Vape Liquid Every Monthshould arrive on monday. So far the juices i like have been a cinnamon cereal and a blueberry lemonade. Last night i picked up some Space Jam Andromeda that's a blueberry pomegranate mix that is just awesome. I tried a cantaloupe/honeydew that was super smooth but they were out of everything but 0mg for it so i'll have to wait for it. I also would love to try a good root beer if anyone has a recommendation.

edit: if there is any real downside to the Triton tank is that you can't fully disassemble it for cleaning and so you need either a couple hours for it to sit or compressed air for the inside of the tank to completely dry.

Pic of the Odyssey in slate.

If you want to spend the cash on a DNA200 box, the snowwolf is hard to beat. I found a deal on a Segelei 150tc for $70 locally, brand new, that i'm picking up tomorrow. Between the Segelei and the IPV4 or even the IPV3 Li, the Segelei seems to be tops right now. So many folks swear by em. And the IPV4 is just plastic that uses the same chip.

For tanks, try to find the new Triton 2. It just came out this past week. It uses all the same coils as the Triton (triton, atlantis, herakles, starre, clones, etc) so you can mix and match to find the best coil for the flavor you want, with new Aspire Clapton 0.5 coil coming out soon. I'm tempted to pick one up for a second tank to use to test coils and swap flavors during the day without having to drain/clean. Screw on top fill with enlarged ports, can fully disassemble for cleaning (and comes with a spare glass too), and more airflow than you need that's easily tuned. Barring that, the Uwell Crown is really good too yet uses its own style of coils (that are cheaper). Besides guzzling juice, two of my local shops have told me that the TFV4 coils rarely last more than 4-5 days, however it's a great vape.

As for batteries, i've read that folks prefer the VTC4/5 batteries but i'm not sure why. Seems like most people around me prefer the efest batteries because they have a higher amp draw of 30-35 and good capacity.

I almost forgot, if you want a DNA 200 box that uses 18650's the Reuleaux DNA 200 should be available very soon.

I've now been using the Segelei 150tc for 2 days i have to say i really like it. Granted, so far i've only used the temp control with a .15ohm Ni200 Aspire coil in my Triton1 tank. The big thing that grabs me is the ability to control voltage more accurately both in wattage mode or temp control (through adjusting joules). On my Pegasus mod a single battery would have enough of a voltage drop by about half battery to affected the flavor and cloud, and i went through 2-3 a day. On the Segelei it has lasted 24h now so i'll toss em on the charger before i sleep, though they don't really need it. 4.2v is where i like to keep it, though flavor is all subjective so play with it some to find what you like. Temp so far is a good balance of flavor and cloud at around 480F for the juice i'm running right now, a 50/50 vg/pg. My first tank through was a 70/30 that liked it better at 520F.

It's bulkier and heavier than the Pegasus, which has only one battery, so it's not that easy to just slip in a pocket. But i like the rubberized texture of the metal case. It's solid in the hand. I wish it had a button lock though, like the 5 clicks the Pegasus had. 5 click on the Segelei get's you in the menu, power off being an option.

Have you gotten yours yet enzie? How do you like it?

The batteries i went with for this aren't high amp because i don't really plan on using it at 100w+. I chose a pair of MXJO which aren't the greatest, but are 3100mah each. Consistent voltage + long life = one less thing to mess with/carry during the day.

I have the nickle temp coil in my Triton tank and i actually get better flavor from it on the Segelei over the Pegasus because i can adjust the joules so there is almost no ramp up time. And the temp control is a bit more accurate so more consistent and smoother draw. I did end up picking up a Triton v2 tank as well because i really wanted to try the new Clapton .5 coil and i really like it. It doesn't compare to a Clapton in an RDA but it's damn smooth at 50w. Good vapor and slightly more airflow than the Triton1 makes for a short satisfying lungful of cloud. I'm not sure which i like better yet between the two tanks but it's nice being able to swap flavors during the day just by swapping tanks. Hopefully i can find some replacement Clapton coils soon as it seems retailers don't have them in yet. And i still want to try the Herakles coil at some point.

enzie_sl said:

The flavor is definitely better, but not 'omg amazing!' better.

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Yup i agree.

I'm fairly drunk currently so this may make no sense at all and i can't remember the math. If you're looking at a graph, left to right time, bottom up is temperature and plotted the the wattage you'd see a 60 degree incline. Temp control then flattens that line at the set temp. Increasing joules acts in a similar manner to adjusting wattage, by steepening the angle before the temp control threshold kicks in by degrading the wattage to maintain constant temperature. The byproduct of heating the coil up rapidly is a more consistent vape. The first part of the drag is as good as the last. My Pegasus mod doesn't allow you to adjust the joules (just the temp) so the set wattage was at a preselected level according the max wattage needed for a .15ohm coil to reach. It took a full second, two if it was cold, to reach temp. On a 3-5 second draw that's significant, and a noticeable change in flavor.

Temp control is just another option to tune a mod to suit your wants as i see it.

The Kanger Subox, Aspire Odyssey, and EVic VTC are all considered really good. I personally started with the Aspire. Besides the juice, you need to replace the coils occasionally, average is 10-14 days but can vary slightly with use and juice. Some juice brands just seem to burn up coils with gunk. Kanger and Aspire coils can be found almost everywhere, while (at least around here) EVic is only found at a couple shops. Aspire's coil design, however, has been adopted by many other good tank manufacturers (Starre, Sense, etc) making them interchangeable. Both Aspire and Kanger have very broad range of coils available, too. From your pen style 1.8ohm coil with a very tight draw, 0.6-0.3ohm kanthol flavor and cloud chuckers, to the consistently good Ni200 temp control coils. Find the balance that you like. Remember, as you go down in coil resistance account for higher wattage and power drain. Extra batteries are always welcome to have nearby.