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Dude that's like having a 13 inch cock and only putting in 5 inches because thats what the girl said her body could fit. You still have to try it man, at least once..
 
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/\/\ Hero Engine. For some reason that is a real sticking point with TESO. They must not think that we know the differences between their version of Hero Engine, and SWTOR's abortioned attempt at a re-engineer. Thiis is where the majority of the Internet started mistrusting anything Paul Sage and Matt "Blackwulf" Firor. People are smart enough to know that Hero Engine, when modified correctly, is fine. Bioware just didn't know what they were doing. However, the start of all the lies and deceit from Zenimax Online started with this little, simple, deflection. "WE ARE JUST USING IT AS A TESTING BED OH GOD HOW DID THEY FIND OUT!"

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does anyone actually read anything that is posted here, i just kinda use my mouse scroll wheel to make sure theres no crud in it

secret confession time: I have a razer naga (?) mouse with 12 side buttons, I have never used a single side button in the year+ i have owned the mouse
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I have one of these and never have either. In fact, I plugged in my old mouse.

Do You Think If I Capitalize Every Word To Make It Seem Like I Do Not Have An Alternate Account AlA BlackWulf, I Could Sell It Here On The Forums?

Blackwulf, you crack me up.

Have any more doctored screenshots you can show us? Maybe your marketing directors and Zenimax Online's marketing directors can get together and polish a few videos to make them look better? Or is it that you are a 3rd party part of the service you provide to them is to just use existing?
 
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Utnayan_sl said:
/\/\ Hero Engine. For some reason that is a real sticking point with TESO. They must not think that we know the differences between their version of Hero Engine, and SWTOR's abortioned attempt at a re-engineer. Thiis is where the majority of the Internet started mistrusting anything Paul Sage and Matt "Blackwulf" Firor. People are smart enough to know that Hero Engine, when modified correctly, is fine. Bioware just didn't know what they were doing. However, the start of all the lies and deceit from Zenimax Online started with this little, simple, deflection. "WE ARE JUST USING IT AS A TESTING BED OH GOD HOW DID THEY FIND OUT!"


I have one of these and never have either. In fact, I plugged in my old mouse.

Do You Think If I Capitalize Every Word To Make It Seem Like I Do Not Have An Alternate Account AlA BlackWulf, I Could Sell It Here On The Forums?

Blackwulf, you crack me up.

Have any more doctored screenshots you can show us? Maybe your marketing directors and Zenimax Online's marketing directors can get together and polish a few videos to make them look better?
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So what version of the hero engine is this?
 
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DMK_sl said:
You getting negged has nothing to do with UT and everything to do with the half truths and bullshit you tell to try and back your own stance up. Only a few posts ago you've tried to trash another game to make ESO look better then when you get called out on it you proceed to say "Oh but I don't trust those people" or "Oh I haven't read that post". More like you tried to use incorrect data to support your stance. You aren't in the BETA and to be honest there is fuck all evidence to support any of the shit you spout.

EVERY neg you have is in THIS thread except for one. That should tell you something. We aren't the problem, YOU are.
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Salty tears from a salty wench. Why can't we all just get along? Also don't start spouting off false facts about me now. I've been around longer than black wolf, check the join dates or ip check me or whatever you princesses need to do.
 
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You people need a new fucking hobby.

And for fuck's sake "the animations look terrible!" REPEAT IN EVERY MMO THREAD ON THE ENTIRE FUCKING FORUM
 
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Utnayan_sl said:
Have any more doctored screenshots you can show us? Maybe your marketing directors and Zenimax Online's marketing directors can get together and polish a few videos to make them look better? Or is it that you are a 3rd party part of the service you provide to them is to just use existing?
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Hey, rocket scientist - I got those screenshots from the mmorpg.com article I linked. I don't know if they are doctored, but they look pretty sweet to me. Since you asked, here are some more:

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I could care less what engine it is, as long as they are telling the truth about 200 players on screen. They do say, officially, that it isn't Hero Engine, though:http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...he-hero-engine

I know you have your own theories, but we are interested in facts and quotes from official sources here.
 
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Narcissistic Narwhal_sl said:
Agreed K I don't know what kind of animations they're looking for. Maybe someday they can show us an example.
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Like we did with the combat three pages ago Blackwulf?

Or do all three of you simply work at the same company?

Tidbit: The Hero Engine always updates. To be specific, they have written some of their own AI code and scripting. RvR is also on it's own strings. They are using Hero for it's content creation ability and real time updates. And right now, it's the only thing they can go with even if they wanted to do something else. They are about to have the rest of their funding yanked if they do not have a set release. And to be able to come out with any substantial content after all these start stops they had, the only way they can even come close is with Hero Engine.

Edit: BW, compare those shots to SWTOR. You will see a striking resemblance.

Again, I am not going to say the game will be shit because it's using Hero Engine. That's the least of their worries. The engine isn't really going to have anything to do with it. I only bring that portion up because they cannot even be transparent about that, and was when their employees started getting pissed at the dishonesty from Sage.
 
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The renderer is not the hero engine, so who gives a flying fuck?

Christ this is the worst thread outside of the rickshaw on the whole goddamn forum.
 
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Utnayan_sl said:
Like we did with the combat three pages ago Blackwulf?

Or do all three of you simply work at the same company?

Tidbit: The Hero Engine always updates. To be specific, they have written some of their own AI code and scripting. RvR is also on it's own strings. They are using Hero for it's content creation ability and real time updates. And right now, it's the only thing they can go with even if they wanted to do something else. They are about to have the rest of their funding yanked if they do not have a set release. And to be able to come out with any substantial content after all these start stops they had, the only way they can even come close is with Hero Engine.

Edit: BW, compare those shots to SWTOR. You will see a striking resemblance.

Again, I am not going to say the game will be shit because it's using Hero Engine. That's the worst of their worries. The engine isn't really going to have anything to do with it. I only bring that portion up because they cannot even be transparent about that, and was when their employees started getting pissed at the dishonesty from Sage.
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sorry bro missed that one, again though, can we just get along and quit accusing people of things?
 
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Some things that irritate the shit out of me about Zenimax (Bethesda):
Their official forums are run by extremely overzealous mods.
Why do they close threads when they get to a few pages? Like is it really hard for some people to load big threads? That's the excuse I heard.
Why don't they have a dev tracker? Why don't their devs have any sort of presence on their forums? That's one of the things I like best about Turbine.
 
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Kreugen_sl said:
You people need a new fucking hobby.

And for fuck's sake "the animations look terrible!" REPEAT IN EVERY MMO THREAD ON THE ENTIRE FUCKING FORUM
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Not in all of them no. But come on you watched that video? The mobs slide around, attack when not out of range, and god the fucking first person animations, I think they're worse than Darkfall and that's made by a team of like 15 greek people. The animations both look like shit in terms of design(weird unnatural poses) as well as simply missing like 1 out of 2 frames so it looks jerky. The graphics themselves looked cool I thought, not a big fan of the spell effects but the dungeon looked nice, the textures seemed high quality, the lights were well done and shit like that. However the game definitely looked fucking low budget due to the animations.

We can't really discuss anything but what is being shown either, it's not like they've started talking about fuck all so can only criticize the most obvious flaws, which in this case are animations.
 
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Kreugen_sl said:
The renderer is not the hero engine, so who gives a flying fuck?

Christ this is the worst thread outside of the rickshaw on the whole goddamn forum.
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Have you been in the EQNext thread lately? That sir would definately qualify as the worst thread on these forums.
 
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The quality of the threads are an exact representation of the quality of this genre/game.

Notice the Bioshock Infinite thread. Or some of the other threads in other games.
 
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Here is a cross post from SA that highlights some flaws. Noting one positive.

Just watched the trailer. First of all, whoever the dumbass was that decided to unveil the gameworld to the public by showing us a demo of the game at pitch black midnight: way to go, genius.

I also like how they talk about things like the game being all about discovery and exploration, then in the same breath show us that they've clearly marked every point of interest in the game on your on-screen compass already, leaving nothing for you to actually feel like you've discovered. Welcome to Disneyland. "We want you to explore, but we realize you're probably too stupid, so we're just going to post big obvious signs around everything to help you out, mmkay?"

Also the combat looks seriously weird. I mean at least they've learned something and they allow players to use more melee-centric moves than "left click" and "hold left click for a second" so that's an improvement, but it still looks pretty bad overall. And there's still no hit reactions. And considering that melee dps will be a function of how fast you can swing your weapon around, I have no idea how they'll even hope to balance that. Then again, there's no way as far as I could see to tell how much damage you do per hit anyway, or even how much damage is being done to you, so fuck it, who cares!

And I seriously hope they throw away the Skyrim style mana/health/stamina status bars. They're terrible for usability. Frankly I am actually surprised at how many bad design decisions they managed to squeeze into that video.
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Narcissistic Narwhal_sl said:
Agreed K I don't know what kind of animations they're looking for. Maybe someday they can show us an example.
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Blizzard level animations
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p.s.

Final Fantasy 14 has pretty good animations from what I've seen too. The only problem I (or I think anyone) has with it is the attack animations don't blend with the movement animations, so if you move while attacking, your character slides across the ground (similar to the problem swtor had), which isn't much of a problem, because usually in any fight with massive amounts of movement for melee you are too busy to actually look at your character animations, and during trivial content where it doesn't matter, you can just stand in 1 spot anyways.
 
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