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Utnayan_sl said:
Marketing. To say that over 1 million were trying to log in to their "Much Anticipated Elder Scrolls Game". Compliments of Peter Hines.



Not even close. The market back in 2003,4 was thought market capped at 430-500k. This was stated by anyone with a pulse back then, and some folks knew it was wrong. Unfortunately, even some folks at Blizzard agreed with the previous. When it hit 1.5 million within a week, it astounded the entire gaming space. I agree, it sucked. I was getting raid split in molten core after reaching 60 and a month in or however long it took to get there, so a majority of time was spent in L/UBRS. But, they were also the first company to my knowledge to credit days back to my account. (There could have been others before, I just probably never played them - so I am not sure) On Mal'Ganis, I was given two weeks paid to make up for it. Doesn't mean it didn't suck. At least they did * Something *.

You seem to have a very one sided non factual opinion to your slants. I am very curious of your agenda. It seems more apologetic for these people than anything. And there are different circumstances existing between now and 10 years ago that you should most definitely know existed back then, but are scapegoating or purely ignorant.

That doesn't mean that it gives any excuse here for a game in development 7 years having this many issues. The pure and solid reason for it was all the stop starts, and Paul Sage's mismanagement of his team.
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Coming from the king of one sided opinionated slants that is pretty funny. I have no agenda whatsoever. Doesn't matter to me what game you or anyone else here plays. Since you aren't in the closed beta, I happen to be in a position to know when you are spewing out your opinion and trying to pass it off as fact.

BTW considering numerous people here have commented that ESO will be a success due to its name alone, your marketing answer is way offbase. It also fails the basic common sense test. If the past weekend beta test was just a marketing ploy like you believe, why on earth would Zenimax give out 500K beta keys to so many new players to play on server architecture that hasn't be stress tested yet? If it was a marketing ploy, their head of marketing needs to be fired. Common sense tells you it was a stress test from the start. Of course those with a one sided jaded opinion will vehemently disagree.
 
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Tuco_sl said:
I think you'll find that most people who were top end raiders in EQ actually don't want to return to the days of being able to cockblock. In fact I challenge you to find anyone here who was a best in server raider in EQ and wants to go back to the cock-blocking in EQ.
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The number of posters here who constantly compare every new MMO to EQ1 and complain about the new MMO would seem to indicate otherwise.
 
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I remember on the FOH boards when the WoW NDA was lifted. The biggest complaints at the time were the buildings in the little towns and the caves were all too similar. The other complaint that stuck in my mind was that the leveling curve was too quick....
 
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I played this some more last night and focused on playing around with blocking and interrupting. It's actually really well done. If you block a big hit then the mob becomes disoriented and will be knocked down by the next hard attack to hit it. When you are in a dungeon and have 6 mobs on you then you cannot just stand there and hold block or you lose aggro, so it does seem to add some more skill to tanking. In addition to this block costs the save resources as taunt (seems to just add threat, not like wow taunt), meaning that you need some way to deal threat with mana instead (aoe threat if possible). Interupt is only really useful if you do not have a skill that stuns in some way.

While I disliked the combat at first, once I got used to it I actually prefer i to what I remember of WoW combat.
 
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Rescorla_sl said:
The number of posters here who constantly compare every new MMO to EQ1 and complain about the new MMO would seem to indicate otherwise.
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Nah to them EQ was their neighborhood and they were the old guy sitting on his front porch rocking chair. All of the other games are new neighborhoods with too many kids and people they don't recognize.
 
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Rescorla_sl said:
Coming from the king of one sided opinionated slants that is pretty funny. I have no agenda whatsoever. Doesn't matter to me what game you or anyone else here plays. Since you aren't in the closed beta, I happen to be in a position to know when you are spewing out your opinion and trying to pass it off as fact.
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You're rich.
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I know exactly I am in the closed beta. Coming from a guy who didn't even remember that WoW didn't have an NDA after F&F Alpha (Which was huge and unheard of at the time) I really wouldn't put much credence into your posting style since you have been registered to post all of about 5 weeks. I know the content issues facing this game currently post 35 and lack of passes across that content, and I also know that as of this point, the hottest topic is that there is no way to tell if any of the abilities work as intended because of a lack of measuring tools. And they are correct. One really has to wonder what stats are really working correctly. I am also not coming across as an apologist or someone already gearing up the scapegoating process for their next interview after this ships.

If it was a marketing ploy, their head of marketing needs to be fired. Common sense tells you it was a stress test from the start. Of course those with a one sided jaded opinion will vehemently disagree.
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Like you.

If the game was worth playing, I would say as much. It's not. So I am not here to sugarcoat it. Nor haven't been for the last 12+ years posting on the forums here or FOH.
 
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Hutchy_sl said:
Didn't wow start with no NDA in about March 2004? If you Google it there's posts talking about the NDA lift as the game went from alpha to beta.
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Yeah they dropped the NDA at the start of closed beta. Anyone could read thebeta forumsand post screenshots or videos (tricky because there was no YouTube yet) and that was a brilliant marketing decision. I remember the mage protest when they took away their invisibility, and the huge freakout about the early designs for rested xp.
 
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I don't want to grind mobs. I just don't want mobs to die with little or no effort on my character that I don't put any armor on and don't upgrade any spells/abilities. Maybe the mobs get tougher later, but early on it's clear they want mobs to be a minor speed-bump in reaching the next arrow on the map, not something you actually have to think about or take into account or even care about. You just run through them, basically, so you can keep running. It's boring.

I also got bored in Rift when I was level 15 and hadn't allocated any points of any kind and was still steamrolling most of the 'solo' content.

Since when did 'solo' have to mean completely lacking any challenge of any kind?
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I forced myself past the little island in the hopes that it would immediately change in the "real" world. Nope.

And Flank, I'm pretty sure playing a tank in ESO is going to be straight up fucking awful. The worst possible sta/mana regen and boring abilities.
 
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Utnayan_sl said:
You're rich.
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I know exactly I am in the closed beta. Coming from a guy who didn't even remember that WoW didn't have an NDA after F&F Alpha (Which was huge and unheard of at the time) I really wouldn't put much credence into your posting style since you have been registered to post all of about 5 weeks. I know the content issues facing this game currently post 35 and lack of passes across that content, and I also know that as of this point, the hottest topic is that there is no way to tell if any of the abilities work as intended because of a lack of measuring tools. And they are correct. One really has to wonder what stats are really working correctly. I am also not coming across as an apologist or someone already gearing up the scapegoating process for their next interview after this ships.



Like you.

If the game was worth playing, I would say as much. It's not. So I am not here to sugarcoat it. Nor haven't been for the last 12+ years posting on the forums here or FOH.
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This is why I think you're lying about being in the closed beta. Anyone in the closed beta has access to all the player made addons which gives you the measuring tools you say don't exist.
 
Utnayan

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Rescorla_sl said:
This is why I think you're lying about being in the closed beta. Anyone in the closed beta has access to all the player made addons which gives you the measuring tools you say don't exist.
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Oh really? Please forward one of those add-ons here so I can add it to my UI.

I'll even let you PM it to me.

Specifically speaking, the addon which will allow me to parse all the data in which I can gauge if all the stats are appropriately functioning, if crit percentages are based off particular stat measurement correctly, while adding up my skills/talent system to determine if the bonuses are being applied correctly as well.
 
Utnayan

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Gecko_sl said:
This is resolved in an easier fashion. Why don't you just message Rescorla ingame?
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I am doing this specifically here so I can see this supposed add on.

Also, if I message him in game (He works for ZO) I will most assuredly get banned.
 
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For what it's worth I gave Utnayan multiple chances to privately prove to me he's in closed beta and anytime I pressed him on a certain way he got very upset and tried to change the subject.

It doesn't even matter really. It's nothing special for Utnayan to get closed beta access and wouldn't change the value of his posts or his mind.

Meanwhile, Rescorla, you are seriously missing the mark on why people want an old school MMO experience. It has very little to do with raiding.

edit: Utnayan thanks for bringing back a memory I hoped to never have in my head again. I still remember collecting every level 60 alliance on my server a few weeks after release, going into Molten Core and getting split in different instances then getting wiped by trash mobs.
 
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Oh come on now..... There has to be a way to do this without Ut getting banned? Ey, Rescorla?

Besides why do you care if you get banned UT, you hate this game anyway. Prove him wrong!
 
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Utnayan_sl said:
I am doing this specifically here so I can see this supposed add on.

Also, if I message him in game (He works for ZO) I will most assuredly get banned.
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LOL why does everyone who likes a game you dislike an employee of the company making the game?

Feel free to send me a tell or mail in game @rescorla.
 
Utnayan

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Tuco_sl said:
edit: Utnayan thanks for bringing back a memory I hoped to never have in my head again. I still remember collecting every level 60 alliance on my server a few weeks after release, going into Molten Core and getting split in different instances then getting wiped by trash mobs.
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Ha! Yeah that was very frustrating.

Rescorla, prove me wrong. Let's see that LUA giving me that functionality.
 
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