Blackwulf
N00b
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Look at this little bitch trying to beg for a ban. Fuck off. Everything I said is true, sorry if it doesn't fit your retard narrative.
The Elder Scrolls Online
- Thread starter Anomander Rake
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Guest, did you like the last podcast notification?? Well here's the second one, and for the third podcast! Yep. This Thursday 8-8-24 at 7pm Central
Go here to check out his podcast thread for info on topics and links!Go into the FoH discord and find the Happy Time Fun Hour channel and give it a listen!
Utnayan
F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
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If ZO had 770k+ Subs as of June, they sold over a million copes of the PC game which we would have heard about. (Hell, we would have heard had it gone over 500k)
The number supposedly comes from the publisher/developer. So they will tell some schmuck on a web site, but won't tell the public? Not buying it.
The numbers, pure and simple, don't add up. And on the fair side, if this guy said they had 73k, you would be saying the same thing on the opposite side of the spectrum. Fairly clear case those numbers are either made up or grossly exaggerated.
My only question is where are they getting this data from?
Even when you look down at the bottom it says "Companies we work with" and even though Perfect World, ActivisionBlizz, EA, Zenimax, etc etc are listed, I don't see Trion's name up there.
Rift has been out since 2011 and not once has Trion ever released sub numbers or revenue streams to my memory, even when it was clear the company was doing gangbusters back in the day. I find it highly unlikely that they'd open up now when the game is what it is today.
Even when you look down at the bottom it says "Companies we work with" and even though Perfect World, ActivisionBlizz, EA, Zenimax, etc etc are listed, I don't see Trion's name up there.
Xaxius
Lord Nagafen Raider
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I have a hard time taking that chart (and its numbers) seriously when it has such glaring omissions like FFXIV. I believe Square Enix also makes their revenue data public which should have made it even easier to include than some of the others.
This. That's the part that makes me doubt most of this study.
Companies like Trion and Zenimax that aren't owned by stockholders and have never shared this kind of info with the public generally all of a sudden opened up their books and somehow "worked" with these guys (their claim), yet publicly owned companies with stockholders who have no problem releasing their figures in earnings calls year after year are completely off this list even though that info is already out there?
Quaid
Trump's Staff
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770k total box sales isn't hard to believe for me. 770k active subs? That sounds totally ridiculous.
Abefroman
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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Blackwulf
N00b
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I didn't post those fucking numbers, kiddo. I highly doubt ZOS gave those guys their sub info.
Abefroman
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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Blackwulf
N00b
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Really sorry, bro. I guess I'm just way too touchy these days.
Anyway, if anyone wants to talk about substance, instead of play guessing games with sub numbers, here's that presentation:
Edit: some guy on reddit found the times for each section:
5:35 Imperial City
16:45 New Content
. 17:04 Grouping Updates
. 19:15 Veteran City of Ash
. 21:08 Dungeon Changes
. 23:51 Craglorn
. 26:00 Dragonstar Arena
28:31 Facial Animations Update (and the tech behind it)
. 35:26 Before & After
37:05 More New Content / Changes
. 37:28 Veteran System Changes
. 43:02 Champion System
. 48:24 Justice System
52:40 Spellcrafting
1:04:25 Art & Animation
. 1:05:23 Combat Responsiveness
. 1:11:10 New Armor & Weapons
. 1:15:19 New Adventure Zone: Murkmire
. 1:18:55 New Solo PvE Zone: Wrothgar
1:24:43 Q&A
The reading comprehension skills of the haters and trolls isn't very high.
The fact Zenimax is a private company and never has to release their sales figures is good for them. Even if the game is a success, they can continue to convince themselves the game is a failure.
Abefroman
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
- 12,593
- 11,918
Yet you used those numbers to say that someones prediction appeared to be off by 500k.
I guess Thank You for proving my point? Kedwyn quoted himself predicting the 3month retention rate to be 275K subs. If the numbers from that article are close to being accurate, he was off by roughly 500k.
Palum
what Suineg set it to
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Except too fucking late. Ship sailed. Past the cape. Went down in the Indian Ocean. Lost all hands. That was decades ago.
Too late for who? The jaded fucks here who burn out on every MMO within 1-2 months? I'm inclined to believe they weren't TESO's target audience in the first place.
