The Expanse
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Sterling
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I mean yeah, there's definitely problems with the scene. I'm just saying that they at least put some effort into setting it up with all the stuff about her thinking about suicide by airlock in the past and showing how strong the oxygenated blood injections are.
ZyyzYzzy
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"The baseline temperature of outer space, as set by the background radiation from the Big Bang, is 2.7 kelvins (−270.45 °C; −454.81 °F)."
No. That time you are using is just assuming no oxygen
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But a person would not instantly freeze because heat wouldn't transfer away from the body very quickly. On earth, heat can be transferred via convection, but outer space is mostly nothingness. The only way to transfer heat is via infrared radiation. It would freeze yes, but it would take longer is being given credit for here. It would take hours for the process to happen.
The biggest dumb in the scene is her hitting the airlock with the precision she does, by far.
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Right, vacuums don’t conduct heat very well. Same reason why your thermos will keep your drink warm for a while. So while space is very cold, it isn’t like diving into a vat of liquid nitrogen.
As for the airlock piece, the ships were aligned airlock to airlock before. If there wasn’t any drift of note beyond distance apart, then jumping from one airlock along a direct line would get you to the other one
As for the airlock piece, the ships were aligned airlock to airlock before. If there wasn’t any drift of note beyond distance apart, then jumping from one airlock along a direct line would get you to the other one
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true in that last part but man, but it’s really hard to think she wouldn’t have exerted the tiniest bit of force in a direction she shouldn’t have in a flat footed take off from a surface that was under her and not behind her.
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Space is technically cold, but not cold in the way you are used to. Overheating is actually a consideration on lots of space vehicles. Without air to conduct heat away, things cool off very slow in space. Gas escaping your body and its effects are the entire threat of a vacuum to a human body. Being in a vacuum is extremely survivable for short periods, and there was a nasa scientist who survived a total decompression lasting 30 seconds without injury. How long a vacuum is survivable is theoretical, but medical consensus is ~30 presents little risk, ~60 you'll start having major issues including losing consciousness, ~90s you'll almost certainly have heart failure. Nothing medical is exact, but you probably can be revived for some time past that, with long term issues in the more vulnerable organs (lungs/eyes especially)
Media that portrays people exploding to ice are retarded and wrong, and its always something that's triggered my inner nerd when I see it. Only thing that scene did really poorly is she should have kept her eyes closed as much as possible, and fat guy should have taken longer to go limp. The vapor escaping their mouths being visible was a nice realistic touch.
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Malakriss
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Even if it was 100% scientifically accurate people would complain, so for presentation they have to embellish some details. Of course if they do a poor job at it then criticism swings further into the complain territory and for this depiction there's a few details with issues.
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What's your confusion then?
The books made it a point, dozens of times, about how adept Naomi was at moving in zero g.
And made it often enough, and aggressively enough, that myself, someone that tends to ignore irrelevant details, remembered it well.
It's dumb, but the books built the idea up
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LachiusTZ
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They want to blow up the roci more than they want to kill Naomi immediately.
So they let it go on auto pilot thinking she will die with it or something. I don't remember exactly.
Know what I do remember?
Naomi was a zero g ballerina
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I know what’s she’s capable of, but the way she jumped off that platform wasn’t something she woulda been able to hit a target on on something that moved in a strait line away, was what I was getting at.
the that’s the only part of the scene I took issue with.