The Fast Food Thread

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Itlan

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When I go to Five Guys, and of course have to get out of the car, I make the most out of the trip, since every Five Guys around me when I lived back in Phoenix was next to Chipotle.

Go in and order Five Guys burger.

Walk out and 2 steps over is the Chipotle, order that, and then walk back to Five Guys, and usually then wait a couple minutes and burger is done. Makes the 10+ minutes I always have to wait for Five Guys a little better. And who doesn't like a little corn cilantro salsa on their burger? or some of that Guac? Damn good.
How fat are you exactly?
 

Borzak

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Compared to McDonalds that has 15 people of which 2 are working. I worked at McDonalds in high school. On Sundays it was me and manager. She ran the front and I ran the back and cooked all the food. We didn't have a drive thru. Wasn't bad. Didn't have to put up with the other idiots and stuff got done much faster.

My BIL runs a large franchise which includes Baton Rouge, part of New Orleans, and Southwest MS. They can't even hire people now for minimum wage and has been that way for a number of years. I'm not even sure what minimum wage is now but he said they have to start at just below $11.00/hour to get anyone interested in putting in an application. But like all McDonalds they have issues now. Not really related to the brand but the franchise split and was left to the owners 2 sons. One has a clue and the other doesn't care. He closed the maintenance shop for his half. Oh well he's been selling off his stock for a while.
 

Soygen

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Wendy's is uneven just like Sonic but on the whole I have had better experiences at Sonic and better food.
We must have the world's worst Sonic here, because even a rough Wendy's is better.
 

Royal

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Here's what I don't understand about Chick-fil-a. How can they afford to have 20 goddamned people standing behind the register taking orders/filling orders/manning the drivethru. Theres so many damn employees they can barely move. When I go through the drivethru there's like 5 people working the 1 window. How in the hell can they pull that off and make any money when my local Wendy's/McDonalds/Burger King has 1 slow as hell doofus working the window and maybe 1 or 2 other people inside helping customers. Chik-fil-a easily has 3x the employees as a normal fast food restaurant. Same with Jimmy Johns vs Subway/Quiznos/any other sub shop. There's like 8 people making sandwiches at a Jimmy Johns, and you're lucky if you ever see more than 2 at a Subway.

I appreciate the speedy service, but something weird is going on there, I can't see how those places pay so many extra employees and stay in business.
Part of the reason they can afford it is that they are a privately held company. Just like not operating on Sundays, they can make decisions that aren't driven by fiduciary duty to stockholders. Staffing to offer a certain level of customer service in spite of the cost is similar. The franchises are also all company owned, so they don't have franchisees to butt heads with them over it.

You also have to consider the point they are at in their life cycle. It is largely a regional company with plenty of geographic area to expand into the be able to grow revenues and profits. Chains like McDonald's and Subway have saturated the marketplace with their locations, so they are more strongly beholden to reducing and eliminating costs as a factor in profit growth.
 

Borzak

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Brother in law?
Yes. Sorry to disappoint. He's 100% coon ass.

He bitches to no end how rough it is. He has a high school diploma. Went to work at McDonalds after graduation, got promoted to manager then supervisor and now is upper management in the franchise and they have about 75 stores. He gets a company car, goes to Chicago once a year for a week for "class" where he attends multiple cubs games, to Vegas once a year for a meeting where McDonalds gives him $500 walking around money while out there. Once they took a cruise with their family for "work.
 

Borzak

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Part of the reason they can afford it is that they are a privately held company. Just like not operating on Sundays, they can make decisions that aren't driven by fiduciary duty to stockholders. Staffing to offer a certain level of customer service in spite of the cost is similar. The franchises are also all company owned, so they don't have franchisees to butt heads with them over it.

You also have to consider the point they are at in their life cycle. It is largely a regional company with plenty of geographic area to expand into the be able to grow revenues and profits. Chains like McDonald's and Subway have saturated the marketplace with their locations, so they are more strongly beholden to reducing and eliminating costs as a factor in profit growth.
They have about 50% of the stores KFC has but look at their yearly numbers.

Their biggest draw, regardless of the food and I've seen it mentioned over and over on various forums. Is that the workers there aren't ghetto, don't speak ebonics, you rarely see a youtube video of a fight breaking out in one, and the workers seem happier working there. They seem to be part time workers going to school or just working part time instead of making it a lifelong career of minimum wage.

Chick-fil-A Stole KFC's Chicken Crown With a Fraction of the Stores - Businessweek

The days when fried chicken was synonymous with a certain white-haired southern gentleman are over, at least in the U.S. A new champion has claimed the chicken crown: Chick-fil-A. The Atlanta-based chain has surpassed KFC in total U.S. sales, taking in $5 billion last year to KFC's $4.22 billion, according to Technomic.

Last year Chick-fil-A only had about 1,775 U.S. stores to KFC's 4,491. Yet in dollar terms the Colonel is coming up short even with that much larger footprint: Chick-fil-A's 2013 sales exceeded its larger rival's by nearly $800 million in the U.S. in 2013. And that's with zero dollars coming in to Chick-fil-A on Sundays, when every restaurant is closed.
 

McCheese

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Probably helps that there are little-to-no Chic-fil-as located in ghetto areas. All of the ones I know of are located in suburban, upper-middle class areas which is probably how they're able to attract the kind of workers (read: non-ghetto) they want.

Chick-fil-a is like the opposite of Popeyes, which ONLY has locations in seedy/ghetto areas around here.
 

Alex

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Chick-fil-a is like the opposite of Popeyes, which ONLY has locations in seedy/ghetto areas around here.
Haha, that's pretty close to true here as well. They've even shutdown in the areas that have gentrified a bit.
 

Khane

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Haha, that's pretty close to true here as well. They've even shutdown in the areas that have gentrified a bit.
Why would they shutdown in gentrified areas? That's counter-intuitive. Or are you referring to Popeye's?
 

Hekotat

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I was in the same boat. I went about 2 weeks ago asking if they had some new chicken sandwich, because I forgot what was mentioned here. Saw the sign advertising it this past Saturday though and hit a quick lucy to the drive thru.
Well to be fair, I almost didn't see it either. They didn't market it at all and the picture of it is so tiny it might as well not exist. No idea why they did this.


I was in Wisconsin for two weeks and finally ate at Culver's, it was absolutely horrible (the burger). The saving grace was their custard. Speaking of ice cream I ate at a Hagen Daazs for the first time, that coconut pineapple and black cherry amaretto is fucking god tier! If you've never been in one I highly recommend it.
 

BrutulTM

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They seem to be part time workers going to school or just working part time instead of making it a lifelong career of minimum wage.
When I was managing low wage employees (security guards when I was in college) I realized that it really pays off to be willing to work around college student's schedules and let them work part time. The only decent people we ever got were college students and older people that were looking to fill their days/supplement their retirement income. Show me a guy who's 40 and wants a $7 an hour job as his main gig and I'll show you a guy that is a TERRIBLE employee and most likely on drugs or at least an alcoholic.
 

Borzak

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Royal

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Their biggest draw, regardless of the food and I've seen it mentioned over and over on various forums. Is that the workers there aren't ghetto, don't speak ebonics, you rarely see a youtube video of a fight breaking out in one, and the workers seem happier working there. They seem to be part time workers going to school or just working part time instead of making it a lifelong career of minimum wage.
They also move customers through fast. If I want to hit the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A and I see that there would be a dozen cars lined up in front of me, I don't just say "fuck that" and go for something else because of the wait. I know that I'll get through that line faster than one at another place with half the numbers.