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Blame the people reporting they wanted that shit out of the political thread, and then blame yourself for ignoring two requests where I had asked nicely because the feminist/Mist shit was already shitting up the political thread as it was with another thread created to discuss it all.
 
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@Amod this thread looks fairly legit with actual conversation, might want to move it back

Don't lock people to using it but it being there could be useful
 
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Blame the people reporting they wanted that shit out of the political thread, and then blame yourself for ignoring two requests where I had asked nicely because the feminist/Mist shit was already shitting up the political thread as it was with another thread created to discuss it all.

Not sure why people want politics out of the politics thread. Odd.
 
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Not sure why people want politics out of the politics thread. Odd.

Want to ask them? Go right ahead. It wasn't politics. The entire discussion veered to equal pay gender shit.

This isn't hard.
 
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Want to ask them? Go right ahead. It wasn't politics. The entire discussion veered to equal pay gender shit.

This isn't hard.

That's politics. That was literally the focus of multiple presidential debate questions and a ton of money was decided based on the okay of feminist organizations who watch this.

Jesus, most of you simply do not understand how pervasive this is. Read this. It's about the Brave Girl statue, I had no idea people didn't know it was set up by a marketing firm. One of the biggest contributors to Feminist projects is Wall Street--and before you think "well that's good PR!"--they hardly use it in their PR campaigns. So why do it? Because feminist campaigns and groups, speaking out about issues, crippled occupy wall street. It also tends to snap any discussion about the gap between the wealthy and poor right in half and makes it about the gap between men and women (Which most men don't have money either and thus its a stupid argument). Essentially feminism lets Wall Street blend in, a wolf in sheep's clothing, it gives them the cover of every white male out there, so when people rage against 'white males', there is a FAR bigger back lash than if they raged against Wall Street/The Rich.

You can't segregate this out from politics, because it IS politics.
 
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Want to ask them? Go right ahead. It wasn't politics. The entire discussion veered to equal pay gender shit.

This isn't hard.
Except that is politics. This is one the most politically charged topics of our current times.
 
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That's politics. That was literally the focus of multiple presidential debate questions and a ton of money was decided based on the okay of feminist organizations who watch this.

Jesus, most of you simply do not understand how pervasive this is. Read this. It's about the Brave Girl statue, I had no idea people didn't know it was set up by a marketing firm. One of the biggest contributors to Feminist projects is Wall Street--and before you think "well that's good PR!"--they hardly use it in their PR campaigns. So why do it? Because feminist campaigns and groups, speaking out about issues, crippled occupy wall street. It also tends to snap any discussion about the gap between the wealthy and poor right in half and makes it about the gap between men and women (Which most men don't have money either and thus its a stupid argument). Essentially feminism lets Wall Street blend in, a wolf in sheep's clothing, it gives them the cover of every white male out there, so when people rage against 'white males', there is a FAR bigger back lash than if they raged against Wall Street/The Rich.

You can't segregate this out from politics, because it IS politics.
So you're an anti-capitalist now?
 
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Blame the people reporting they wanted that shit out of the political thread, and then blame yourself for ignoring two requests where I had asked nicely because the feminist/Mist shit was already shitting up the political thread as it was with another thread created to discuss it all.

People ALWAYS want shit they don't or stopped caring about moved. People are always accusing others of shitting it up. People are always asking for people to leave, get banned, go back to Cuba, etc. You asked politely if the topic can move and I didn't, because this shit happens all the time, and the reasons I cited here about feminism being foundational to modern politics (unlike islam or nk which are incidental). I made a clear post here about why I felt this way; you are still welcome to respond to it.

Meanwhile, do you realize how many posts I contributed to that shitshow, in that thread? One. Fucking uno man.

When I was a teenager and had a shitty day sometimes I would flip out on my mom. I wasn't mad at her, but I was fed up in general. I make it a point not to do that shit anymore because I'm not a kid, and if I do, I apologize as soon as I realize I took something out on a person based on other things. You aren't a kid either (or you're a trolling game devs as a child savant) so I expect you understand when I say: moderating me for one sincere but defiant post at the "wrong time" because you are annoyed about dozens and dozens of shitposts from others is not cool.
 
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When I was a teenager and a kid, and I had a bad day/didn't, and I lipped off after my mom or dad asked me to do something nicely two times, my mom or dad walked to the drawer with the wooden spoon in it. I would say I was sorry before they ever got there to actually open it up and they would stop and let me off the hook, and I figured, shit, I can get away with this as long as I want. One time I said sorry, they kept walking up to the drawer, grabbed the wooden spoon, and nailed my ass anyway.

And that was the last time I lipped off with or without having a bad day.

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Women that do not want to have children have been mentally deranged by feminism. Traditional family structures exist for a reason.
 
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So you're an anti-capitalist now?

This question is like me saying my transmission is shot and you saying "So you hate cars now?!?"

Cronyism is a potential fail state for Capitalism, just like Socialism. Capitalism simply takes much, much, much longer to reach that failed state, and you can do quite a bit to prevent and retard it (Unlike socialism where more programs end up localizing power even faster.) But within Capitalism you do need to call our cronyism, and attempt to reduce inequality in the system through advantages outside of wealth, and skill.

That's really hard to do when when Feminists keep interrupting the other sphere of power in Capitalism meant to retard those advantages (The Political) with this focus on gender and/or race. Its an unholy union of Marxists who are usually too stupid to realize they do exactly what the Crony Capitalists want, and/or Marxists who realize it, and are hoping to collapse the system so the glorious revolution can happen (IE too stupid to realize its limitations biologically which prevent socialism from working.)
 
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When I was a teenager and a kid, and I had a bad day/didn't, and I lipped off after my mom or dad asked me to do something nicely two times, my mom or dad walked to the drawer with the wooden spoon in it. I would say I was sorry before they ever got there to actually open it up and they would stop and let me off the hook, and I figured, shit, I can get away with this as long as I want. One time I said sorry, they kept walking up to the drawer, grabbed the wooden spoon, and nailed my ass anyway.

And that was the last time I lipped off with or without having a bad day.

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Not a good way to treat an adult. Maybe you missed how one was used on a child, and the fact that you're not dealing with a child? Also the fact that Yerm's opinion is the prevailing opinion in that thread in terms of discourse. It's difficult, if not impossible to segregate out Feminism from modern politics, the ideology touches on EVERYTHING and is a constant excuse for action in everything. Given the state of comics, movies, art and other culture, it's quickly growing to the point where discussion has to happen, unless you're willing to run the board like GAF and, well, beat people with wooden spoons for not toeing the line and pretending the Emperor's clothes are fabulous.
 
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When I was a teenager and a kid, and I had a bad day/didn't, and I lipped off after my mom or dad asked me to do something nicely two times, my mom or dad walked to the drawer with the wooden spoon in it. I would say I was sorry before they ever got there to actually open it up and they would stop and let me off the hook, and I figured, shit, I can get away with this as long as I want. One time I said sorry, they kept walking up to the drawer, grabbed the wooden spoon, and nailed my ass anyway.

And that was the last time I lipped off with or without having a bad day.

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You are completely and totally missing my point.

Go look at my post history. Look and see for yourself. Posts yesterday about antifa larping and crusader garb, then ONE post today that you infracted, then feminism thread.

You claim that is the last time you lipped off? I disagree. Look at this here. You took out pages of Mist-induced frustration on my single (if horrendously long) post.

I take personal offense to having you infract my one post because you are testy due to others' posts. I want that infraction off and an apology. I don't have a spoon to nail your ass with and wouldn't if I did; prove you are not still a kid and apologize by choice, not force.
 
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Dude I told and asked the thread 2 times to please take all feminist arguments to the feminist thread. You came back after reading that nicely asked question, not once, but twice, and then came back with this:

No Tuco I will not use your thread.

Appeal it if you want. You aren't getting dick from me on this one.
 
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Dude I told and asked the thread 2 times to please take all feminist arguments to the feminist thread. You came back after reading that nicely asked question, not once, but twice, and then came back with this:



Appeal it if you want. You aren't getting dick from me on this one.

Your peers disagreed with you and one openly mocked you after he put this thread along with other threads in it's proper place.

It's fucking hilarious how bad you are at this, thanks for the lulz retard.
 
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Dude I told and asked the thread 2 times to please take all feminist arguments to the feminist thread. You came back after reading that nicely asked question, not once, but twice, and then came back with this:



Appeal it if you want. You aren't getting dick from me on this one.

Are you Tuco? No? Then I was not responding to your requests, but to Tuco, yes?

I appealed the warning. It has to go back.

Stop being a douche.
 
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So it's not just the equality of women, right? Well, there is the issue. You can't defend it as the sole barrier of the equality of women while saying you can't even define it. Because you can just straw man a defense up about anything with that. If tomorrow I say female circumcision is feminist, and that idea somehow catches on within feminist ideologues, and someone from outside feminism comes in and says "that doesn't sound very feminist"--if that argument can be pushed back with the equality of women argument then you've just poisoned the equality of women with the baggage of being stuck in this cancerous ideology. This is WHY we codify ideologies we practice, because the divine right of kings sucks. This thought that its "too hard to define" is how you wind up with Feminism defending the Burka, or Feminism applying to men who say they are women, it's how high activity ideologues (IE SJWs) hijack a base principle like "equality of women" and use it to defend radicalism.



Not exactly what I'm saying, I'm more speaking about the above, the coherence of an ideology. When an ideology which rails against white males on Liberal campuses as misgonistic and oppressive but then can also be used to defend a codified system where marital rape in encouraged and men can beat their wives (Sharia), it's a god damn mess. The liberation of women should NOT be anywhere around defending Islam, the fact that it is shows that "feminism" from the modern Left is pretty much being used as a whore, because that Messianic quality--this belief that it is the savior of women and if its attacked all of its goodness will be eradicated! (IE again, tying a core principle of modern morality to an ideology that can be used for anything.)

However, that all said....Do you think its a bad thing if the current Left shifts some to the right? That's what's happening now ANYWAY. It's just happening with an arms race that is quickly turning sending normal Liberal people running to the hills of conservatism re-thinking a bunch of issues Leftist thought they had in their pocket...Which leads to you...well, you know what it leads to (Below).




You're right. Do you think this is a good thing? I don't. Trump is setting fire to something that's gone horribly fucking wrong, he's not a solution I, or anyone else wanted in NORMAL circumstances. But he's a symbol that people will BURN this mother fucker down before some asshole tells us Sharia is Feminist. This is BAD, Trump as president is BAD in a normal, sane world. He's only good in an insane world where the cultists which have infested this ideology are in charge. He's chemotherapy for a cancer, no one WANTS chemo, but its better than dying.





This is not what I meant and you know it. Two of the feminist I mentioned WROTE and did commentary (IE were pundits on) major networks (Dworkin did articles but she died a long time ago). They were not called on to poke fun at them or feed the circus of "look at how horrible this dude is". If you count that then fucking PiV is rape feminists regularly appear on Fox news because Tucker Carlson makes fun of them. I'm talking about people brought on to do commentary or analysis or allowed to write their own editorials. Grear, for example, is pretty much on CNN, ABC, NBC and whatever whenever there is an issue with women that is political.

When a black dude gets shot and there is a March, do they call up Spencer and Duke and ask them to be play by plays or get an "in depth racial analysis" of the situation from an 'expert'? LOL...And yes that's exactly what they do from these feminists which often make statements about stripping rights and harming people that someone like Spencer would NEVER make (And actively opposes).



You'd be dead wrong. (Look at the gains on this chart. Want to know why its growing so quickly? Because the WW2 generation is dying. They died as much in the last five years as they did throughout this chart. Now they are nearly totally gone. A huge power base of the kind of beliefs you think are enforced literally died in the last 20 years.)

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And this is a big part of the issue. Liberals do not understand how thoroughly they won the culture war, how they've utterly shamed even marginal conservative values to the point where the public view on what's acceptable has shifted exponentially as people who were old enough to resist it (The elders, WW2) have died. Rather than giving their opponents time to adjust (IE the middle of the road people who tepidly accepted it because they still work and network with younger folks), they decided to piss on their grave, and do a dance and start cutting children's balls off so they can have a more equal world, and they do it all using the EXACT same tactics (IE Feminism is one) that worked during the death of the moral majority. Except now it seems like all the fears of those moral majority who got BTFO were PRECISELY true, and its making your average Liberal recoil. This is a demographic time bomb for the Left, and Feminism is a primary example of shit that needs to be cleaned up.

This is how you get Trump. Don't clean up, and continue to use violence to enforce crazy beliefs because the Left has tied women's equality to the fucking burka, and it's also eventually how you get Hitler.

Well, my biggest issue with the Left is the despicable free speech suppression. I think the Muslim issue would solve itself if this problem were to be fixed. I just can't see how all the liberals that escaped childhoods of religious shaming and brainwashing are ever going to be thrilled about handing power back to religious fundamentalists again. They're just currently forced to keep their mouths shut lest the likes of Antifa turn on them.

The problem is that Trump isn't good for free speech, he's bad. "Open up the libel laws" makes CAIR's dicks hard, because the people with the resources to fight them in court (the MSM) are already on their side. Looser libel laws will make it very easy for them to quash the network of independent conservative bloggers, as these people have day jobs and families and just don't have the time or money to fight back.
 
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