The Girls Who Broke Your Heart Thread

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Johnny53

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I had a similar dilemma with Kristen, I always paid for everything, ohhhh.....Nevermind , she was a hooker....
 

Dabamf_sl

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When I read Eomer's post I kinda thought "oh shit" because it's not one that needs advice at all, yet it's like a reflex for everyone to jump in with their idea of the universal-correct thing to do. Things are going well, and the pay/not pay discussion is as it should be. It should be sort of a politeness battle. I hate when someone comes with a story and people automatically start listing 20 things the person should do..especially because they're just bad. Save the (bad) advice for people that need it.
 

Badabidi_sl

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I hear the L word is a big hurdle in the relationship power struggle so never say it until the other person says it first. You need about 24-36 months at least, otherwise your bed mate is a nutjob who probably shits the sheets.
 

Srathor

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Eomer, If she is staying at your place a majority of nights you can use that as a rough gauge of where you stand. 1 night a week, pay for some dates. 2 nights a week pay for more than she does date wise. 3 nights a week, yall are getting there. 4 nights a week time to think about how you really feel. Practically living with you, and only goes home for fights/2 week laundry runs. Then money will start getting co-mingled. Sounds like you got a good one though, good luck!
 

Dabamf_sl

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she's also a psychology major trying to do clinical...eerily similar, damn chick majors amirite? trying to convince her to do something useful like science and engineering in grad school instead).
Downplaying the significance of your partner's chosen field when you clearly have no idea what it entails....I bet she loves that
 

Ronaan

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7 months? Are you nuts? You need much longer than that. Eomer, youre doing fine and youre in a wonderful situation.
I'm not telling him to drop on one knee and hand over 120k worth of jewelry bro, just asking him to find out where it may lead.

As for me being nuts, I believe we established that circa 2009.
 

Dabamf_sl

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As a cognitive scientist myself I'm fully aware of the field. I'm aware of her chances of succeeding, and her chances of getting into worthwhile programs and then proceeding to actually do anything in the field. Let's be real, psychology is the major many women take because they have no clue what they want to do(for guys it's communications).

And when she's told me several times she's not really sure she even likes psychology anymore, yes, I encourage her to do something that has more utility and more potential for career cross-pollination. What a terrible person I am.
Well that paints a different picture than the impression I got from the post I quoted. Nevermind then, yea, if you're not at least a billion percent sure about going into clinical psych, it's definitely a bad idea to try.
 

DMK_sl

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Why do women have smaller feet than men? So they can stand closer to the sink
Why don't women need watches? Because they can just look on the Microwave.
Why did the women cross the road? That's not the point what the fuck is she doing out of the kitchen.
 

Eomer

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Dabamf_sl said:
It's kind of weird to me you guys haven't dropped the L bomb yet in 7 months. Maybe that's not unusual, but it seems so to me. This is more a personal curiosity, but do you sense that she is actively stopping you guys from progressing into deeper commitment, or have things just gone naturally to this point? If it were me, I'd be reluctant to commit too much to a relationship until that future is more certain. Not saying that's the case here, just curious.
Yeah I would have expected it to come out by now as well. Everything leads me to believe though that she feels that way but for whatever reason doesn't want to come out and say it, not sure why. Maybe she's worried about scaring me off or something? From my perspective at the outset I decided I'd not be the one to say it first, and I'm sticking to my guns!

I don't think she's actively stopping the relationship from going further, that I can tell. It's just been very, very natural to this point with hardly any "deep" conversations about what we're doing or where things are going. She's never really talked about what she wants long term (marriage? kids?) to any great extent, other than indicating she finds the idea of having kids at this point in her life ridiculous. And she's never asked me about what I'm after (which would be "undetermined").

Ronaan_sl said:
Eomer,

I think it's time you find out if your future timelines align. Find out what she wants from life (and while you're at it, find out what you want from life, too). Kids, pets, house with a white fence around the garden, travel destinations, hiking holidays, all that.
Seven months sounds serious enough, might as well see if she's the one.
Yeah, I think a lot of that is going to come out in a couple months when we hike the West Coast Trail. 5-7 days in the wilderness with just the two of us, I would imagine some of those conversations will be had if they haven't happened before then. I'm not going to force the issue before then, I don't think.

Wrathcaster_sl said:
I was in this situation before I was crippled by student loans of my own and I had a decent amount of funds to put into my relationship. I did what you did, paid for nice dinner, bought drinks etc, bought her small gifts from time to time or would just get her a shirt or skirt or whatever as long as it wasn't ridiculously expensive. Main way I got mine to quit fighting me on the dinner issue is going somewhere semi-expensive, ordering something semi-expensive for myself and ordering a semi-expensive appetizer, as well as getting a drink. When they tried to get me to let them pay all the time, I'd just tell them that it was my insistence on going to this place and ordering a bunch of great food, so they shouldn't have to pay for my giant steak and beers and whatever they got. Did that a few times over a period of weeks, maybe once or twice on weekends, and eventually it just becomes common practice.
Yeah, that's kind of what's happening now with food/entertainment. I'll pick up the big bills at restaurants and bars, she'll grab smaller ones at coffee shops or when buying groceries to make dinner.

Srathor_sl said:
Eomer, If she is staying at your place a majority of nights you can use that as a rough gauge of where you stand. 1 night a week, pay for some dates. 2 nights a week pay for more than she does date wise. 3 nights a week, yall are getting there. 4 nights a week time to think about how you really feel. Practically living with you, and only goes home for fights/2 week laundry runs. Then money will start getting co-mingled. Sounds like you got a good one though, good luck!
She's staying at my place 2-4 nights a week at this point, I stay at hers maybe once a week. She lives 10 blocks away so she hasn't really started accumulating much stuff at my place, since she's 3 minutes from home anyways and generally doesn't have to start her day (shower, change etc) first thing in the morning. I'm also mildly OCD and while I don't mind if she leaves stuff around, I notice shit as subtle as her trading a non-ripe banana she brought over for a ripe one on my counter and commented on it, so she probably is a bit nervous about making me feel like she's intruding on my perfectly arranged life.

Celestein_sl said:
That might be an issue you face in the future, I don't really resent this place, it's nice enough, but due to the age/income gap I feel like I took a major step back in my quality of life, to accommodate her income and desire to contribute to our finances. On the otherhand if I had gone with some swanky place and paid the difference, I know she would have resented me and been very uncomfortable.
Yeah, I own my condo with zero mortgage and have no intention of moving short of having kids and deciding it was time for a house. So if we were to decide to move in together at some point, there'd be no rent for her to pay. What I'd probably suggest to her if the situation arises is that I'm cool with paying condo fees/property taxes (about a grand a month) and she doesn't need to pay me rent, so long as she takes care of the cost of groceries. I'd be bearing a majority of the cost of living, but she'd be doing her part.

Celestein_sl said:
But in the long-term these things can be problems, when you have a huge income gap like that, one partner either has to accept the other as a care-taker, or one has to lower their quality of life to accommodate the other. Either way someone has to sacrifice. This is a major reason why people in non-sugardaddy/gender defined role relationships tend to marry people with similar incomes, and why people with very large gaps in income face a lot of relationship trouble.
Yeah, other than spending on recreational activities and travel (which she also enjoys) I don't really have expensive tastes, so it wouldn't be too difficult to make things work financially I don't think.

Celestein_sl said:
And when she's told me several times she's not really sure she even likes psychology anymore, yes, I encourage her to do something that has more utility and more potential for career cross-pollination. What a terrible person I am.
Yeah, I don't really pretend to know too much about her field or what she wants to do with it. I think she'd probably be better off getting a masters in something else, but that's a decision she has to make for herself. She was looking at some sort of health policy research program last time we talked about it, so it does seem she's getting a bit away from the psychology stuff, but she was also doing a little dance that a position in autism research just came available that she had been wanting to apply for, so I dunno. The only concern for me is that her schooling and career after schooling would be out of town.
 

Izo

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Heriotze

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I would say go with what Dabamf says in this case Eomer and just understand that the best advice in this situation is probably no advice since it sounds like you are dealing with things in the proper way. She sounds like a good woman and probably has very different ideas about where she was going to be, from a financial standpoint, as opposed to your career from the time when your relationship got going. The idea that you have a good paying job and she was working towards one was probably a big factor in allaying the financial differences between your career paths and date night/serious relationship expectations while getting to know her. The reality of that is probably becoming, to her, that the door is swinging ever wider between your financial worth and her prospective worth now that she has been rejected from her preferred grad school. He is also right; financial disparity is a huge potential issue with relationships, especially now where most (there are still many situation that work incredibly well to the contrary) good women want to see their careers grow parallel to ours until things are stable enough where the old school picket fence and family thing can happen without any monetary worries. Speed bump man. Just know that she is concerned about that aspect, which you already know that she is, and keep playing it by ear.
 

Kenadul

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She's was initially not very adventurous in bed, but over time has started to do more with me. My only major concern is that it feels like she doesn't have a really strong personality of her own, 90% of the time we do what I want to do, and she is loathe to express opinions unless I really prod her.
Help make the thread better and tell us what kind of freaky shit she's doing now. And it sounds like you have a pretty good girl Eomer, I think your question will pretty much take care of itself with time.
 

Antarius

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Help make the thread better and tell us what kind of freaky shit she's doing now. And it sounds like you have a pretty good girl Eomer, I think your question will pretty much take care of itself with time.
Nothing terribly exciting... Blowjobs, sending me nudes, let me take her to a sex store and buy her a dildo...Wearing lingerie to bed.

Nothing really "freaky" but she was pretty damned boring/bad sexually the first month I dated her... didn't want to do anything but missionary (she still doesn't like doggy)and mostly just laid there, didn't want me to go down on her either and would stop responding all-together after she'd cum, which usually would occur within the first 10 minutes... and even when she would start to get into it, her rhythm would be off, instead of grinding against me, she'd be moving her body "with" me destroying any in/out movement... or just moving at a completely unrelated pace all-together which would be distracting.

I'd still describe her as a selfish lover, if I get her off first, I pretty much have to finish myself off...
 

Brad2770

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So, I have a date set for tomorrow evening with the Korean lady. She pretty much told me she is free all day, but I have to work. I will be contacting her around 4pm to work out the details, but we are going to this really nice Korean BBQ place in N. Dallas and then to a Casino. I like to gamble and she does too, so why not? Let's hope it goes well.

Oh, and the buddy that got the redhead's number said the redhead is 23 with 3 kids and 2 baby daddy. haha
 

The Ancient_sl

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I'd still describe her as a selfish lover, if I get her off first, I pretty much have to finish myself off...
???

Is that like she won't let you put in in her after you get her off with mouth or hand or is it she'll kick you out if she O's while you are inside her. The former is pretty damn strange albeit easily remedied but the latter makes no sense whatsoever.