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mkopec

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Nulolan said:
Negative, you only get i think what a 30% penalty for using a 1 handed weapon besides piercer backstab penalty, and 50% for 2 hander. That hardly makes up the massive damage difference.

Rogue epic is pretty worthless as well.
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Yeah its only for the backstab DMG that those daggers are good for, so youre missing out on a whole lot of white dmg. You would prolly have to parse the shit out to see if the added backstabs outweigh the loss of all that white normal dmg.
 
Jackie Treehorn

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I'm on if anyone needs a guild invite. Just msg Kluen and jump into the bazaar and i'll get you added.

You need a dragon tooth Jackie Treehorn Jackie Treehorn ? What's your char name and I"ll parcel one over.

Update: Server down in 14mins. Might have to wait for luclin launch!
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Yeah sure! I won’t have any time to play tonight but character name is “Inorcist.”

Appreciate that for sure. I’ll definitely play some tomorrow so no rush at all.
 
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Jackie Treehorn said:
Yeah sure! I won’t have any time to play tonight but character name is “Inorcist.”

Appreciate that for sure. I’ll definitely play some tomorrow so no rush at all.
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General Antony

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Any of you subtards going to be able to make Seru weapons if I get materials?

That's the only one that requires tradeskills? VT bane is a drop and Ssra bane is 2x drops + no fail combine?
 
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As someone who isn't as versed into the ins and outs of damage, would my SK\Rogue now do more dmg with the rogue epic than say backstabbing with the SK epic?
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Rogue epic? Meh. Myro for sure though, because "white damage" in that build is total shit outside of backstab damage.
 
mkopec

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Cooool man. Big thanks!

I’ve actually got about an hour to play before I have to head out so I’m gonna check it out. Thank you again! I’ll get it back to you.

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Orrrr I’m not gonna check it out tonight because the server is down.
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Yeah Luclin is releasing tonight.
 
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Rogue epic? Meh. Myro for sure though, because "white damage" in that build is total shit outside of backstab damage.
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White dmg is shit normal hits are like 200-300 of course with outliers and shit 500-600? 90-150 sometimes?

So yeah most of my dmg is big crits from all the life leech AA(around 5K) backstabs which are 1500-5K, but normally on bosses in NTOV they are around 3K and outlier crits for 10K. Then the sympathetic VI proc which is around 5K also. And my spell leech which is spammed every time its up, jsut like backstab, hits for like 1500 and procs the symp VI.

Oh and the poison shit too, forgot about that. Thats big dam too.

But you would still have to parse it out to see. White dmg is just there all fight long. And while the numbers are smaller, through a boss fight they add up. But if its literally 3x backstab damage at the back end, then yeah, its a no brainer. 9K normals with 20-30K crits? Shit man, that wins out, lol. Thats a lot of white dmg to make up.
 
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Pogi.G said:
As someone who isn't as versed into the ins and outs of damage, would my SK\Rogue now do more dmg with the rogue epic than say backstabbing with the SK epic?
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Once the 3x dmg changes goes through yes you'll do waaaaay more dmg using a rogue dagger in main hand than sk epic.

White dmg is basically a tiny portion of your overall dmg around 5-20% depending on your class combo, yeah you'd lose a bit of white dmg swapping because rogue epic ratio is worse thank sk at 30/25. You can also use something like mrylokars with a better ratio 30/19

For backstab dmg calculations:
SK epic 2H 110 dmg x 50% = 55 dmg
SK epic 1H 80 dmg x 75% = 60 dmg
Rogue epic 30 dmgx3 = 90 dmg
 
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Anyone got a hit list planned for when servers come up ? I just realized I missed most of luclin, I remember raiding some mobs in ssra, rags and high priest etc but pretty sure i took a hiatus before we ever got into VT. So needless to say not real sure what to go for after servers come back up lol.
 
General Antony

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Nulolan said:
Anyone got a hit list planned for when servers come up ? I just realized I missed most of luclin, I remember raiding some mobs in ssra, rags and high priest etc but pretty sure i took a hiatus before we ever got into VT. So needless to say not real sure what to go for after servers come back up lol.
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Im just gonna watch a stream from some veterans and chill. there is no rush for any of this shit. This is a 99% instanced server so you dont have to fight for scraps.
 
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Once the 3x dmg changes goes through yes you'll do waaaaay more dmg using a rogue dagger in main hand than sk epic.

White dmg is basically a tiny portion of your overall dmg around 5-20% depending on your class combo, yeah you'd lose a bit of white dmg swapping because rogue epic ratio is worse thank sk at 30/25. You can also use something like mrylokars with a better ratio 30/19

For backstab dmg calculations:
SK epic 2H 110 dmg x 50% = 55 dmg
SK epic 1H 80 dmg x 75% = 60 dmg
Rogue epic 30 dmgx3 = 90 dmg
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It's not that simple as just maxing Backstab damage - there are ratio, proc and spell damage concerns that need to be balanced.
 
Sylas

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Nulolan said:
Anyone got a hit list planned for when servers come up ? I just realized I missed most of luclin, I remember raiding some mobs in ssra, rags and high priest etc but pretty sure i took a hiatus before we ever got into VT. So needless to say not real sure what to go for after servers come back up lol.
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Yeah Luclin is a mystery for me as well, cat's on the fucking moon ended my suspension of disbelief and killed the game for me, sold my account for 500 bucks and moved on with other shit.

I did come back and played about 30 minutes of PoP but that's also mostly a mystery. We'll see how well I do as post velious all the memberberries are gone and this thing has to stand on its own merits without nostalgia helping it along.
 
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Same here pretty much I did come back during PoP and play pretty hard till DoN I think it was though. Luclin definitely burned me out real quick on live.
 
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mkopec said:
White dmg is shit normal hits are like 200-300 of course with outliers and shit 500-600? 90-150 sometimes?

So yeah most of my dmg is big crits from all the life leech AA(around 5K) backstabs which are 1500-5K, but normally on bosses in NTOV they are around 3K and outlier crits for 10K. Then the sympathetic VI proc which is around 5K also. And my spell leech which is spammed every time its up, jsut like backstab, hits for like 1500 and procs the symp VI.

Oh and the poison shit too, forgot about that. Thats big dam too.

But you would still have to parse it out to see. White dmg is just there all fight long. And while the numbers are smaller, through a boss fight they add up. But if its literally 3x backstab damage at the back end, then yeah, its a no brainer. 9K normals with 20-30K crits? Shit man, that wins out, lol. Thats a lot of white dmg to make up.
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Parse it. Backstab is like 14% or so of my damage most fights. Auto attacks are well below that. White damage outside of backstab is pretty shitty with SK.
 
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my Sk/Rog (also berserker)
Uses 2H SK epic so white hits are not directly comparable, but still its 12.41% of dmg, backstab is almost 20%.

If i were using 1h SK epic/Rogue OH my backstab dmg would be slightly higher, not sure if my autoattack would be lower or not. If I then swapped to say, Mrylokar/Rogue epic OH to take advantage of the new backstab dmg bonus my backstab dmg would increase by 63% to 32% of my dmg and my white dmg would probably only drop a % or 2 down to maybe 10. I'd also lose Soul Consumption (dot) that does 1.14% of my dmg. so overall huge increase

again speculating, ill prolly take a look at my going DW on this guy now that these changes are in (assuming the scaling on Frenzy remains viable) and ill parse it
 
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General Antony said:
Any of you subtards going to be able to make Seru weapons if I get materials?

That's the only one that requires tradeskills? VT bane is a drop and Ssra bane is 2x drops + no fail combine?
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I have a Blacksmith up to around 200, along with the AA for it. I have enough velious bits to get to 230 (or whatever those max out at) but haven't taken the time/plat to skill up. The Suru bane weps are supposed to be around 320 skill trivial though, so still a decent fail chance on it. I also didn't see a minimum required skill needed, listed anywhere.
 
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General Antony said:
Any of you subtards going to be able to make Seru weapons if I get materials?

That's the only one that requires tradeskills? VT bane is a drop and Ssra bane is 2x drops + no fail combine?
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I have 222 (max you get with bits) and the +15% blacksmithing item. With skill and AA alone the calculator says 65ish chance to succeed. I’ll be doing an Acrylia farm this coming week to get blacksmithing to the 300s. Send mats to Myhn if you want me to attempt combines. I‘ll say here when I get it to the 300’s if you want to wait. I have brewing in the mid 100’s for that combine as well.
 
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I remembered a decent amount about Velious, but the only thing I really remember about Luclin is quad kiting on the moon. I pre-farmed bixie parts, so I know I could work on the earing, but where else should I start?
 
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