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Gavinmad said:
I'm not really a fan of Hitler, but I don't want to hurt random German soldiers just performing their civic duty.
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i've definitely benefited from them in the past, but i'd honestly be hard-pressed to ever argue that hackers and leaks as a whole are a "good thing."

it's kind of a weird deal because these leaks and spoilers revealed some serious flaws with the product. on one hand it has saved a lot of people the price of admission but it didn't CREATE the outrage, really. it just changed the timeframe that we all got pissy. also if the game ended up being really good but the leaks screwed people out of experiencing the story as it was meant to be (which in a sense, it has) we would be pissed at the leaks. imagine if someone leaked a video of Darth Malak unveiling Darth Revan.

the leaks themselves aren't cool. it's super shitty to screw people out of the income they would get from box sales, ESPECIALLY knowing what we know about the video game industry and how they get paid in bottle caps until the game is released. and the VAST majority of the people who make games aren't trying to preach some political message. they are just trying to do the best they can with their own personal little corner of the game. i'm not really a fan of druckman, but i don't want to hurt peon #4, who's job it was to animate joel's eye rolling out of his head, because that person had no say in anything. they got handed a to do list and a deadline.
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Pretty sure this leak actually saved the game from more outrage.

Sure, its shitty to read that characters you love get clubbed to death by a manwoman, but at least you didn't spend 8+ hours in a game to be lead up to that point.
 
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Caeden

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There’s a 1001 ways to kill Joel in the story and make it poignant and hit the player hard that makes them say “Holy shit” in a Red Wedding way.

Not a goddamn one of those begins and ends with you playing the killer, tranny or roid-female whichever. Even a if the killer was some man. (Maybe anyway?)
 
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Caeden said:
There’s a 1001 ways to kill Joel in the story and make it poignant and hit the player hard that makes them say “Holy shit” in a Red Wedding way.

Not a goddamn one of those begins and ends with you playing the killer, tranny or roid-female whichever. Even a if the killer was some man. (Maybe anyway?)
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I'm sure they could've made it interesting to see the side of the "villain", but they went with empowering trannies because druckman is a cucklord. Unfortunate.

My wife is replaying TLOU now and I've been watching. I think my favorite thing is when you're stealthing if you make one tiny noise they attack you buy the AI is walking around constantly slamming into shit and making noises with no issue
 
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It's the same shit in zombie movies/shows. Zombies shamble around, bumping into shit. Person nudges a pebble, suddenly they can all tell it was a human that did it and swarm them.

Killing Joel can be a good narrative element to the game, but you have to do it in the right way. What they're trying to pull is the equivalent of playing Clementine in the Walking Dead games, some kid of a bandit you killed in a previous game comes along and bashes her head in, then you suddenly play as the bandit's kid for the rest of the game. It immediately takes the gamer out of your story, because they're being forced to play as a character they hate (because the character killed a character they actually liked) and would just as soon walk off a cliff, but they have no choice if they want to finish the game.

I mean, you can get all artsy-fartsy about it like its some type of performance art and say "ha, now you feel like the character does...doing stuff they dont want to do, but feel compelled to do it because they have to see this through! WE MADE YOU THE CHARACTER IRL!!!", but that's not how most people are going to view it.
 
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What if in FF7 Remake you play as Sephrioth after killing Aerith and you are just comstantly destroying monsters and Shinra with a double length samurai sword? That would be AWESOME.
 
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Chris said:
What if in FF7 Remake you play as Sephrioth after killing Aerith and you are just comstantly destroying monsters and Shinra with a double length samurai sword? That would be AWESOME.
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it would, but i'm not sure why you're comparing sephiroth to a tranny.
 
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I bet that before they kill him off, they'll let us know that Joel was an awful person and we were dumb for ever liking his character.

He'll spend the first chapter drinking milk out of a giant cow before stepping aside for someone more...Diverse.
 
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I can understand wanting to do something fancy/controversial/whatever but I can't understand doing it with the first sequel. Save your master plan to salt the earth for the concluding third installment.
 
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Well boys, this has officially peaked:



(On the off-chance they actually fix it, Sony DMCAed their own trailer.)
 
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lol classic Sony

review embargo lifts June 12th, a week before release. Apparently tons and tons of keys are out to reviewers to give them time to finish the game, I can only imagine the spoiler stuff is gonna get far worse soon. IDK i read it all and cancelled my preorder, gonna watch on twitch on launch day for the lulz
 
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