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spronk

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there are interesting chapters interspersed in the game, i was watching Liriks stream and he just played through a section where its a 2 year flashback and it shows ~15 year old Ellie just going on a patrol with Joel and they clear out a hotel and its absolutely fantastic and Joel is dad and giving twangy advice and they talk a little bit about TLOU 1 ending (in game context) and its beautiful. Thats what I assumed most of us thought the game would be, maybe a little formulaic and tropey but done with 10/10 production values and acting, with a story involving "the cure", how the world has changed or not changed, and how Ellie has to grow into her own person with or without Joel.

Instead we get this mess which is 9/10ths dogshit with awful new characters no one gives two shits about and just a slog of misery and despair. I've seen the last 2-3 hours of the game and its just the worst parts of the game imo.
 
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so playing through tranny quest and i almost vomit

i have no problem immersing myself in fantasy and in game, sorta like "transporting" myself there, i mean i'm on a 1999 everquest forum, i've role played many various different races obviously.

i remade a wood elf ranger into a half elf cuz the wood elf was too gay

i quit being a troll shaman cuz being a big lumbering idiot made me dizzy

hey, i have no problems playing a girl either, i was one of the first in high school to get a 3d card to play tomb raider, s3virge!

but this tranny is just disgusting... is this the point? that this thing is such a horrible thing to play that i would HAPPILY play as ellie?

when they finally let me switch back to ellie and her lesbo interest, sure! no problem, she looks like a girl, she sounds nice cuz of ashley(va), she doesn't move like a lumberjack... it's even evident in melee stealth kills.

you know the thing ppl like about tlou is the stealth kills, the tranny just crushes the neck like a police officer thinking theres no one filming, while ellie gotta do some stabbin.

it's pretty boring now, so wife is just playing kh3
 
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Ritley

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If you know what happens in the game and know that there's ZERO chance that anything else they could do would change your mind about it, there's nothing wrong with a review even if you haven't actually played it. Especially for something like TLoU, which is at best an interactive movie. This type of game only works when the story is so good that no one minds being railroaded through a linear plot in which the player has absolutely no way affect the outcome. Even David Cage understands this, and his games (with the exception of Beyond, which deserves a score far lower than other QD games and copycats like Until Dawn) have a range of endings where people die, killers get away with it, etc. but there's always the option for the player to do everything right and get the best ending.

TLoU2 has none of that. There's one ending, and one set of plot points from start to end, and every single one of them would be like the player fucked up in the worst possible way in a game with choices. I can say with 100% confidence as a huge fan of the first game that this absolutely deserves a 0/10. Hell, I said that before I saw the actual ending so I guess it should be pretty deep in the negatives now.


The fact that Joel and Ellie stuff only happens in flashbacks is one of the worst parts of the game and a very big part of why people hate it so much. The trailers showed Joel saying "You didn't think I'd let you do this alone did you?" and made everyone think that there'd be gameplay with the two of them again, but that was a straight up fucking lie and it's actually Jesse who says that to Ellie.
The preview trailers even had Joel aged up to make it look like you were playing them in the ”current” time. Then in the real game they removed the extra aging because it was actually a flashback. Intentionally misleading because they knew what people actually wanted
 
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Cybsled

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Sure, it’s misleading, but plenty of trailers misdirect or create fake scenes to hide plot points. MGS2 and Avengers: Infinity War come to mind
 
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Utnayan

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Please for the love of GOD I’m ripped let me do the color commentary!!!!! Anyone???!!!
 

Cybsled

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If you know what happens in the game and know that there's ZERO chance that anything else they could do would change your mind about it, there's nothing wrong with a review even if you haven't actually played it. Especially for something like TLoU, which is at best an interactive movie. This type of game only works when the story is so good that no one minds being railroaded through a linear plot in which the player has absolutely no way affect the outcome. Even David Cage understands this, and his games (with the exception of Beyond, which deserves a score far lower than other QD games and copycats like Until Dawn) have a range of endings where people die, killers get away with it, etc. but there's always the option for the player to do everything right and get the best ending

Ignoring TLOU2, that is problematic. Can you have an opinion on something not really understanding it? Sure. Is it very valuable? No.

I mean, we all went off on a tangent on how Waterworld was an enjoyable flick. But lots of people got caught up on “he drinks his own pee KEK” at the time and the premise is dumb and never even watched it or gave it a chance (resulting in it being a box office bomb). And most of you guys won’t even give FO76 a chance, even though Wastelanders improved it a lot, because you made up your mind literally years ago.

Again, I’m not defending TLOU2’s shitty story choices, but “lul 0% cause tranny sex” is derp.
 
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TJT

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Ignoring TLOU2, that is problematic. Can you have an opinion on something not really understanding it? Sure. Is it very valuable? No.

I mean, we all went off on a tangent on how Waterworld was an enjoyable flick. But lots of people got caught up on “he drinks his own pee KEK” at the time and the premise is dumb and never even watched it or gave it a chance (resulting in it being a box office bomb). And most of you guys won’t even give FO76 a chance, even though Wastelanders improved it a lot, because you made up your mind literally years ago.

Again, I’m not defending TLOU2’s shitty story choices, but “lul 0% cause tranny sex” is derp.

The average person finds the idea of tranny sex revolting.
 
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Vorph

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Ignoring TLOU2, that is problematic. Can you have an opinion on something not really understanding it? Sure. Is it very valuable? No.

I mean, we all went off on a tangent on how Waterworld was an enjoyable flick. But lots of people got caught up on “he drinks his own pee KEK” at the time and the premise is dumb and never even watched it or gave it a chance (resulting in it being a box office bomb). And most of you guys won’t even give FO76 a chance, even though Wastelanders improved it a lot, because you made up your mind literally years ago.

Again, I’m not defending TLOU2’s shitty story choices, but “lul 0% cause tranny sex” is derp.

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with me or what I said.

I understand TLoU2 just fine, as much as it's possible to make sense out of complete nonsense anyway. I fundamentally disagree with the premise that "revenge is bad, mmmmkay?" so even if the plot hadn't gone full retard at every possible opportunity I was never going to like it half as much as I did the first game. I would have at least rented it though.

As for the rest... bunch of weird tangents. I saw Waterworld in the theater and liked it, and I've seen the extended cut since then and liked that even more. I have no interest in MP Fallout so I never would have given it a chance even if it was Bethesda's masterpiece. And I've said since the very first leaks that I don't see anything that definitively states Abby is a tranny, and as far as I'm aware nothing in the game says otherwise. It's just speculation based on an artist bad at their job turning the mocap model into a abomination, is it not? The sex scene is cringy as hell either way, but it's among the least of the game's problems.

Also, "problematic" ? LOL.
 
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Merrith

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Ignoring TLOU2, that is problematic. Can you have an opinion on something not really understanding it? Sure. Is it very valuable? No.

I mean, we all went off on a tangent on how Waterworld was an enjoyable flick. But lots of people got caught up on “he drinks his own pee KEK” at the time and the premise is dumb and never even watched it or gave it a chance (resulting in it being a box office bomb). And most of you guys won’t even give FO76 a chance, even though Wastelanders improved it a lot, because you made up your mind literally years ago.

Again, I’m not defending TLOU2’s shitty story choices, but “lul 0% cause tranny sex” is derp.

This is what I mean about people getting too locked in to the SJW/anti SJW stuff. There's plenty of things fans of the first game dislike about this one that have nothing to do with tranny related issues. Also as far as bad reviews coming too quickly, I guarantee a whole bunch were watching streams of people who had access to the game early to stream it on Twitch/other spots. As others have noted, the gameplay isn't groundbreaking in either game, most people care about the story and the characters and how they are handled.
 

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This is what I mean about people getting too locked in to the SJW/anti SJW stuff. There's plenty of things fans of the first game dislike about this one that have nothing to do with tranny related issues. Also as far as bad reviews coming too quickly, I guarantee a whole bunch were watching streams of people who had access to the game early to stream it on Twitch/other spots. As others have noted, the gameplay isn't groundbreaking in either game, most people care about the story and the characters and how they are handled.
When it's hamfisted garbage, yeah people will lock into it. It's political pandering for mental illness. And you're a bigot if you don't accept it
 
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Cybsled

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I didn't say it was a good thing, I just pointed out examples of advertising misdirection to hide major plot points.
 

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I didn't say it was a good thing, I just pointed out examples of advertising misdirection to hide major plot points.
But thats kind of the point. If they had told people in 2001 that you get to be Solid Snake for 10 minutes, and then you have to be some other dude for the rest of the game, how many copies of MGS2 would they have sold? Same thing with Halo 2. I didnt actually enjoy being the Arbiter. That was unnecessary, but at least the online was solid.

edit: its worse than that. How many copies of Zone of the Enders did they sell by lying about being snake?
 
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