The Mandalorian
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That's what I gathered from skimming here, but do you have a simple example for someone that doesn't really know the source material? I get that people are pissed about killing off old characters, but what's something else?
I was thinking about this last night when I was watching the most recent episodes where he takes off his helmet, along with the other Mandalorians that don't follow those same rules in general. That's why I came looking in this thread, to see if that pissed people off because Mandalorians never do that or something?
Screamfeeder
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The deep fake is worse. MUCH worse. Look at the lower lip during "he wants your permission".
The movements are very stilted even with a better "shell" over the physical actor. Part of CGI isn't so much trying to make it look exactly like "the thing", but avoiding any glaring error that makes you realize "that is not the thing".
The deepfake failed at that much more.
Also, some of you guys talking about the costs of these things is hilarious. It's like Bill Gates guessing what a gallon of milk costs only in reverse.
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Daezuel
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Making Han a deadbeat dad, never getting the original cast back together, the over indulgence with force powers. They took every opportunity to one up the OT by doing dumb shit including things like Starkiller Base. I realize some people actually think Force Awakens was good, but it was the biggest piece of shit possible and I have nothing but disdain for those people.
The Mandalorian lore stuff is more fleshed out in Clone Wars and Rebels which is something Filoni was deeply involved with (and Lucas too really, he's also sat in on some of this Mandalorian shit.) You can tell Favreau and Filoni are huge fans of the OT because it shows in the work.
The Mandalorian lore stuff is more fleshed out in Clone Wars and Rebels which is something Filoni was deeply involved with (and Lucas too really, he's also sat in on some of this Mandalorian shit.) You can tell Favreau and Filoni are huge fans of the OT because it shows in the work.
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Daezuel
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The original artists had the actual footage of the actor to better sync the lips, the creator of this deepfake said as much.
The eyes are so much better and he did this during the weekend. I'm just going to guess if he had the source material and time the entire thing would look better.
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There's a bunch of words wasted on the dumbass movies and you can go into as much sweaty detail as you want if you care.
but let me reduce it as a proud member of the common man: in the last jedi Luke was a whiney hobo who sucked on walrus milk, in Mando Luke is a badass jedi master who absolutely slaughters a phat stack of droids.
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spronk
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The Mandalorian grew up in a Mandalorian cult, after they fled the planet Mandalore they basically grew up with new customs like the importance of beskar and armor, never taking off your helmet, following individual quests assigned from The Armorer, etc. The entire point of the Bo-Katan (Starbuck) character this season was to suddenly tell viewers that "whoah, not all Mandalorians are like that, just the weird cult Pedro Pascal grew up in". Its like growing up a Mormon your entire life and then finding out not everyone wears magic underwear.
We'll almost certainly see more of that conflict and dynamic in future seasons, we honestly have no idea which faction is larger, what most Mandalorians believe or are like, etc. Some of its explored in Clone Wars but I don't think the cult of the helmet stuff is, at all.
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I saw all that and I'm not going to die on the hill of defending their CGI as anything other than imperfect yet passable, but the neckbeard "anyone could have done better/it's terrible" Comic Book Guy commentary from a few people here is a bit "sharp knees".
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Thanks all, and thanks
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I just enjoy the Mandalorian because it doesn't really have any annoying as fuck characters in it.
spronk
for thisSince I don't really know the lore, all of this stuff seemed like the same bullshit to me where hollywood just changes the rules to make an episode more interesting or something. I never know what adheres to the source material and what doesn't, so I'm just judging the amount of "oh ho ho, but this doesn't work the way you thought it did!" instances. Stuff like the different mandalorians, Gus' dark blade saber thing, etc.
I just enjoy the Mandalorian because it doesn't really have any annoying as fuck characters in it.
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They are popular and a lot of people do like them, just not here.
I have no real issues with the sequels because at the end of the day, it's Star Wars people doing Star Wars shit in a Star Wars world.
Shit dude I enjoy the Ewok Adventures and you get me high enough, I'll rock me some Christmas Special. Too may people wrap their identity up in what is REALLY *insert fandom* instead of just rolling with it all and enjoying it. Also, this board has a Culture War, anti-SJW, Kathleen Kennedy is the devil attitude about just about anything these days so make sure to factor that in.
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7-9 are bad movies regardless of their faithlessness to the Star Wars feel and iconic characters.
The Mandalorian does a much better job of recreating that feel and respecting(or, at least not trashing) established characters, that's what has people excited. Perhaps a bit too excited as objective criticism is met with hostility, here and elsewhere. Watching EFAP viewers turn on their hosts has been quite funny.
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Lithose
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In the Cannon Universe? No, not really. Mandalorians are probably the closest group to hold their own against the Jedi but powerful Jedi are as strong as a group of them. That being said, its probably skewing things to judge Luke as a typical Jedi. He's supposedly one of the strongest ones. Jedi have a huge range of talent (Mostly an excuse for plot armor). But some of the weaker Jedi get dropped to squads of special troopers.
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Lithose
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Yeah, because they died out as a format when TV became a thing. No reason to release serial short films if you can broadcast. However, that is the homage this stems from. The closest modern film adaptation would probably be the MCU.
If Mando is being threatened by storm troopers, its not much of a heroic adventure. The whole point of these is to have someone who is a cut above, who comes in and saves the day for the normal folks. They only get challenged when the big bad shows up.
That's how an adventure serial works. The faceless enemies aren't supposed to be a threat to the hero, they are a threat to the poor townsfolk who go and beg the hero for help (And whatever form that takes)
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Chukzombi
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i didnt like TFA, i said as much at the time. i dont like how they tried to update the original movie with diversity actors and called it new. i know a lot of people thought it was "good" because they thought it was going to lead somewhere. Ooh we get to see Luke teach Rey the ways of The Jedi. Ooh we get the showdown between Luke and Snoke! Ooh Finn is force sensitive will he get Jedi training too? Ooh, Finn and Poe are gay and will totally space fuck in the second movie. Ooh who can Snoke really be, i cant wait to find out! Ooh Luke and Leia will team up to fight the First Order! all the theories, all the expectations all the set up which may or may not have actually been planned was kicked in the dick with TLJ. as a result TFA got taken down as well as whatever fuck else that comes after TLJ
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I would take MCU-level writing in this series. It still has its warts, but I think is on average better.
In some episodes, storm troopers are treated as a threat to the heroes. Bo-Katan called him brave for charging down the hall with the grenades. Billy Freckles and Mando go out the window because the mass of storm troopers running into the room(not firing their guns) are a threat.
It feels like there's a quota for dead storm troopers per episode in a show that already feels a bit too short on runtime.
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Cybsled
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The movies failed because there wasn’t a strong cohesive narrative and story. Characters changed, they pulled a bullshit Final Fantasy 9 with “surprise, the final boss is someone different and just introduced now!”, they brought up and left plots unresolved.
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the funny thing is, everyone hates this trilogy. the people they tried to pander to hated it because they didnt get a Rey and Ben hookup. they didnt get Rose Tico anything. they didnt get Finn becoming a jedi, no Poe and Finn hookup and they didnt show Leia saving the day. all these supposed stunning and brave diversity plotlines were handled poorly. i didnt think it could be possible for Rian Johnson to bring everyone together in agreement. but he managed to pull it off. Kathleen Kennedy should have had her ass fired immediately. nobody invested in the franchise would have minded. just the same woke losers on Twitter would have complained.
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Xevy
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I like Force Awakenes, because I thought of it like MCU Origin movies. Basic but not terrible, but a opening up a myriad of possibilities to come from it.
Then what came from it was a constant stream of diarrhea into our eyes, minds, and hearts. Maybe a sliver of enjoyable things here and there, but mostly just diarrhea.
Then what came from it was a constant stream of diarrhea into our eyes, minds, and hearts. Maybe a sliver of enjoyable things here and there, but mostly just diarrhea.
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