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Loser Araysar

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He only released some of it ... how is that getting as much information to as many people as possible?

If I have 1,000 pages of information and I only give out 10 how am I helping get the information out?
because you release all of it eventually anyways but you keep it in the news for 6 months instead of 2 days

You're not this stupid so stop arguing random bullshit. You know perfectly well why he is dripping it and why that works in 2013
 
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What are you talking about? That is THEIR mess to clean up. This is OUR mess to clean up.

I don't care what other people do in other countries. Isn't that what got us into Iraq and Afghanistan?

You are a special kind of moron aren't you?
You're cleaning up the wrong fucking mess though. You're focused on tracking down some guy rather than addressing the fact that the President of the United States specifically ran on promises of ending the surveillance state and instead, chose to increase it by an insane amount.

Barack Obama_sl said:
Obama in 2007: "No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime, no more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war."
Yet, here we are. What about his betrayal to his constituency? Is the government just absolved of any wrongdoing they do against the American people simply by the grace of them being the government?
 

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This isn't a whistle blower though. This is a shit head who has some information he is selling by enticing the world with a few pages.
So the public didn't learn about the prism program from this guy?

You have such a raging hard on for doing ad hominem attacks on this guy it's funny.
 

a_skeleton_03

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You're cleaning up the wrong fucking mess though. You're focused on tracking down some guy rather than addressing the fact that the President of the United States specifically ran on promises of ending the surveillance state and instead, chose to increase it by an insane amount.



Yet, here we are. What about his betrayal to his constituency? Is the government just absolved of any wrongdoing they do against the American people simply by the grace of them being the government?
Why can't we go after both the President AND Snowden?
 

Loser Araysar

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Exactly, he didn't need to release tidbit by tidbit so that everyone could read it in the newspaper week by week in the Sunday edition.

He releases EVERYTHING immediately.
Yeah, because back in 1970s the news cycle and consumption of info was entirely different and significant longer. You had 5-6 sources of info, typically 2 TV channels, 2 newspapers and 1-2 radio stations. These days you have hundreds all eager to scoop the next one.

Once again, get with the times, grandpa.
 

Loser Araysar

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That is exactly what I said ....

This guy broke our laws, we don't need another Roman Polanski thumbing his nose at us.
This is where oh so subtlely he is compared to a pedophile and smeared by proxy.

The character assassination is in full swing.


You two are such idiot lackeys.
 

a_skeleton_03

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You want to punish the guy who gave you the information that shows you should go after the President? You do realize the idea of letting little fish go to snag the big one, yes? It's a common legal tactic that is employed in this country every day.
Sure and the little fish is still charged with a crime to bring him in to make that deal in the first place.
 

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You're cleaning up the wrong fucking mess though. You're focused on tracking down some guy rather than addressing the fact that the President of the United States specifically ran on promises of ending the surveillance state and instead, chose to increase it by an insane amount.



Yet, here we are. What about his betrayal to his constituency? Is the government just absolved of any wrongdoing they do against the American people simply by the grace of them being the government?
Did Snowden reveal something else last night or something? Because the documents he released along with the followup information we have gotten about that program do none of the things Obama mentioned int hat little excerpt you provided.

This isn't an either/or thing though. We should definitely reevaluate our national policy, I don't like the idea of this program based on the information we have now. And Snowden should also go to jail.
 

a_skeleton_03

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This is where oh so subtlely he is compared to a pedophile and smeared by proxy.

The character assassination is in full swing.


You too are such idiot lackeys.
I am not comparing him to Polanski other than to say we need to track down our criminals no matter what the crime.
 

Loser Araysar

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I am not comparing him to Polanski other than to say we need to track down our criminals no matter what the crime.
Yeah, right - you just picked Polanski randomly out of 100s of other Americans living abroad. How long till we find out that the FBI discovered a box of child porn under his bed in his house in Hawaii?

Destroy, Deny, Discredit.
 

ZyyzYzzy

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So, it's only ok to subvert authority is if it isn't yours? It's ok to break some laws, but not others? I'm arguing you on the principle of your belief and the only thing you can come at me with is some bullshit Nationalism crap? Weak.
Move out of the fucking country then asshole. Stop benefiting from hard workers here while spewing bullshit like the government is going to come snatch us all up for making phone calls. You seem pretty confident your uneducated ass has intricate knowledge of everything in the world to state Snowden is unequivocally in the right.

Snowden took a position to gain access to as much information as possible to use it to his own advantage betraying his oath and trust. He should be punished for his actions.

He's not some Jamie Lannister betraying his oath to kill the mad king. Maybe in his head he though he was going to slay the black prince who knows, it still does not excuse his actions.
 

a_skeleton_03

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Yeah, right - you just picked Polanski randomly out of 100s of other Americans living abroad.
Out of the 100's evading extradition? Yes, want to know why? I don't know any others hiding out from a felony by name. If you want to bring up a better name by all means do so. I just don't know a lot of criminals, my bad.
 

Loser Araysar

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Move out of the fucking country then asshole. Stop benefiting from hard workers here while spewing bullshit like the government is going to come snatch us all up for making phone calls. You seem pretty confident your uneducated ass has intricate knowledge of everything in the world to state Snowden is unequivocally in the right.

Snowden took a position to gain access to as much information as possible to use it to his own advantage betraying his oath and trust. He should be punished for his actions.

He's not some Jamie Lannister betraying his oath to kill the mad king. Maybe in his head he though he was going to slay the black prince who knows, it still does not excuse his actions.
YEAH IF YOU DONT LIKE THE NEW AND OPPRESSIVE AMERICA - GET THE FUCK OUT INSTEAD OF HOLDING IT TO ITS FOUNDING PRINCIPLES.


HERP DERP.
 
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Move out of the fucking country then asshole. Stop benefiting from hard workers here while spewing bullshit like the government is going to come snatch us all up for making phone calls. You seem pretty confident your uneducated ass has intricate knowledge of everything in the world to state Snowden is unequivocally in the right.

Snowden took a position to gain access to as much information as possible to use it to his own advantage betraying his oath and trust. He should be punished for his actions.

He's not some Jamie Lannister betraying his oath to kill the mad king. Maybe in his head he though he was going to slay the black prince who knows, it still does not excuse his actions.
Yeah, his life is fucking awesome right now. He gained so much.