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?They think he copied so much stuff ? that almost everything that place does, he has,? said one former government official, referring to the NSA, where Snowden worked as a contractor for Booz Allen Hamilton while in the NSA?s Hawaii facility. ?Everyone?s nervous about what the next thing will be, what will be exposed.?
Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian columnist who has published a series of stories based on documents provided by Snowden, said he has exercised discretion in choosing what to disclose. Snowden, too, has said he was selective in choosing what to disclose.
?I know that he has in his possession thousands of documents, which, if published, would impose crippling damage on the United States? surveillance capabilities and systems around the world,? Greenwald told CNN. ?He has never done any of that.?
lol. You better hope you're dead wrong about his personality there a_skeleton_03
 

Loser Araysar

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I'll play devil's advocate here and mention that the yottabytes claim is almost certainly false. You would need literally billions harddrives to have enough storage for one yottabyte. I googled a lot of articles mentioning the yottabyte claim, but it's simple math. So unless they have area-51 storage devices, it can't be accurate. Exabytes, sure.
1. why wouldn't the biggest data storage facility in US have "area-51 storage devices"?
2. exabytes is still massive volumes of data. 1 exabyte = 1 billion gigabytes
 

tad10

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1. why wouldn't the biggest data storage facility in US have "area-51 storage devices"?
2. exabytes is still massive volumes of data. 1 exabyte = 1 billion gigabytes
It's at least 5 Zettabytes - I've posted the article twice now.
 

fanaskin

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Nope we don't have to sit around at all. We all knew that was happening before we knew about Snowden. Did you write your congressman about it? Did you vote out the current regime? Did you do anything except tirade on a forum and pretend you know what you are talking about?

Maybe a legit whistle blower could have turned some information over to congress for those in congress that aren't biased on the intelligence committee? Someone that didn't leave the country to countries that are way worse about civil liberties than anything we have ever done in the USA.
That's bullshit when they lied about the program, they pretended to defund it and built it anyways, GTFO

"""Following public outcry, the program was halted primarily because of privacy concerns, but also because its main advocate was John Poindexter, known for his involvement with the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s.

It now appears that the project "was stopped in name only" and that TIA is in fact continuing. The National Journal reports that TIA was moved from the Pentagon's research-and-development agency-known by its acronym DARPA-to another group, which builds technologies primarily for the NSA.The names of key projects were changed, apparently to conceal their identities,but their funding remained intact, often under the same contracts."""
The program was rolled out in 2001 was met with immediate hostility then they pretended to defund it and transfered the program from the DOD to the NSA, was built in private, some of it came out in 2006-7, Obama promised to dismantle it, he didn't.

 

a_skeleton_03

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lol. You better hope you're dead wrong about his personality there a_skeleton_03
I doubt I am wrong about him. Just a matter of who offers him how much money. I am sure he isn't pure evil and probably doesn't intend to sell any "big secrets" in his opinion. He will justify everything with "I don't feel like it's causing 'grave damage' so this one won't be a big deal". He will say to himself "I deserve to get a bit of money to pay my bills, I am a hero after all" and will justify as many secrets sold as he can.
 

a_skeleton_03

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that's bullshit when they lied about the program they pretended to defund it and built it anyways, GTFO

the program was rolled out in 2001 was met with immediate hostility then was built in private, some of it came out in 2006-7, Obama promised to dismantle it, he didn't.
They very well could have defunded the program and then built a new program out of the ashes.

For a conspiracy theorist you know very little about the government.
 

fanaskin

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That's irrelevant to the idea that "the public knew" when every deception was made to keep it secret, it's such a bullshit angle, very few people knew or realized what was going on. that's the WHOLE POINT of the snowden disclosure, the public was grossly misinformed and had a gross misconception about what is going on.

on a grand scale 1-2 articles or a pbs series does nothing, you literally need all the major news channels to actually REPORT on stuff for days on end for the information to sink in.

and what's equally funny is if you look at the conversation I tried to have about this back in may before the leaks the very first post is you denying it's even POSSIBLE, nevermind is happening.

I notice you changed your tune from 2 months ago where you denied it was even possible.
 

a_skeleton_03

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that's irrelevant to the idea that "the public knew" when every deception was made to keep it secret, it's such a bullshit angle, very few people knew or realized what was going on. that's the WHOLE POINT of the snowden disclosure, the public was grossly misinformed and had a gross misconception about what is going on.
Everyone knows about the Utah thing. Everyone knows about "Room 641" and has for years.

Everything you talked about is stuff that we all knew before Snowden yet nobody did anything. Snowden brought nothing new to the table.
 

fanaskin

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apparently "everyone" didn't include you, if you look at politics forum from may 6th you'll see your posts there denying room 641a capabilities
 

tad10

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I like how Chaos was posting like mad for a few hours and then he tagged in a_skeleton_03 and is now getting a drink on the outside of the ring.
 

a_skeleton_03

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I like how Chaos was posting like mad for a few hours and then he tagged in a_skeleton_03 and is now getting a drink on the outside of the ring.
Obama is toweling him down while the AG shoots gatorade into his mouth and Cheney massages his shoulders.
 

BoldW

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Everyone knows about the Utah thing. Everyone knows about "Room 641" and has for years.

Everything you talked about is stuff that we all knew before Snowden yet nobody did anything. Snowden brought nothing new to the table.
Then really Snowden's crime is comparable to a staffperson leaking out the new Spago menu. Hardly seems like the "grave damage" rhetoric the Administration and its pundits spew out right before they call him a drop-out Traitor. You can't have it both ways. Either he's a traitor who divulged secret information about secret programs, or he isn't (and if we knew about it all before, then he isn't, certainly not to the extent of Traitor).

Obviously, these programs are new, and their scope is nothing the country, and probably the world, has seen before.

Snowden probably did us a favor as far as protecting America from terrorists, at least for a while. The terrorists are too busy watching us metaphorically blow ourselves up to literally blow us up. One would think that right now would be the absolute worst time for terrorists to attack us. It would probably be a great time for the administration.