The NSA watches you poop.
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Big Phoenix
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NO.
No.
Noooooooooooo.
Stop with the bulshit.
They get everybodies data and analyze the exabytes+ of data. i.e. data mining. Which is why people like the Tsaernaves were completely overlooked.
fanaskin
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Why The FISA Court Is Not What It Used To Be
http://www.npr.org/2013/06/18/191715...-it-used-to-be
The top secret rules that allow NSA to use US data without a warrant
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ithout-warrant
They also claim that "[l]ike a wiretap, the target [of FAA surveillance] is always a specific suspect," and that this "system allows the U.S. government to target specific persons wherever they go (outside the United States)." This is not merely incorrect; it is precisely backwards. As Attorney General Eric Holder made explicit in a letter to Congress urging reauthorization of the FAA, the attorney general and director of national intelligence annually approve "intelligence collectiontargeting categories of non-U.S. persons abroad, without the need for a court order for each individual target.
http://www.cato.org/blog/epstein-nsa...amendments-act
Leaked FISA Documents Show The NSA Can Access US Data Without a Warrant
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/06...out-a-warrant/
America's secret court: 14 judges preside, grant surveillance warrants for NSA and FBI
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/06/2...r-nsa-and-fbi/
All the National Security Letters Ever Approved Since the Patriot Act
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/...t-act-20130612
http://www.npr.org/2013/06/18/191715...-it-used-to-be
The top secret rules that allow NSA to use US data without a warrant
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ithout-warrant
They also claim that "[l]ike a wiretap, the target [of FAA surveillance] is always a specific suspect," and that this "system allows the U.S. government to target specific persons wherever they go (outside the United States)." This is not merely incorrect; it is precisely backwards. As Attorney General Eric Holder made explicit in a letter to Congress urging reauthorization of the FAA, the attorney general and director of national intelligence annually approve "intelligence collectiontargeting categories of non-U.S. persons abroad, without the need for a court order for each individual target.
http://www.cato.org/blog/epstein-nsa...amendments-act
Leaked FISA Documents Show The NSA Can Access US Data Without a Warrant
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/06...out-a-warrant/
America's secret court: 14 judges preside, grant surveillance warrants for NSA and FBI
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/06/2...r-nsa-and-fbi/
All the National Security Letters Ever Approved Since the Patriot Act
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/...t-act-20130612
You won't hesitate to shit all over everyone who posits a "running theory" about how Uncle Sugar is gathering and analyzing Big Data because "no one knows" the what/where/when/how and here you come doing the same thing.
How do YOU know what Uncle Sugar is using or doing to mine this data? Pro tip, you don't.
It's not like you had any credibility on this thread with all your shitting, but ffs, pick one side: Either you stay in the ether and parry everyone's theories (what you're doing now) or come into the conversation and throw out some ideas, etc behind this clusterfuck of an Orwellian nightmare.
BoldW
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Can't be too hard on Chaos. The government kept him from reading news articles that actually describe, with citations from govt documents, what's going on (OMG spying on Americans is classified, so govt workers need to be censored). I think he's slowly coming around. Anyone who grills and uses cast iron as much as he does can't be ALL bad. And he stopped attacking me based on sexual orientation. There is hope yet. He still does seem to ignore facts and citations, but it's getting better, and the man obviously does care about the country.
But I will defer to Beef - Good man right there, great posts and kurt russel mullet avatar (that is kurt russel, right? Don't recognize if it's supposed to be from a specific role).
Back to moving in 110 heat.
But I will defer to Beef - Good man right there, great posts and kurt russel mullet avatar (that is kurt russel, right? Don't recognize if it's supposed to be from a specific role).
Back to moving in 110 heat.
tad10
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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog....html?mobify=0
Good read on how the NSA and FBI walk all over the First Amendment in the name of national security.
Good read on how the NSA and FBI walk all over the First Amendment in the name of national security.
Lambourne
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So they're also spying on high level EU diplomats at the UN, hacking their local networks and bugging their buildings. Guess the NSA wasn't done yet making friends for America overseas.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95S0AQ20130629(Text in spoiler)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95S0AQ20130629(Text in spoiler)
(Reuters) - The United States has bugged European Union offices and gained access to EU internal computer networks, according to secret documents cited in a German magazine on Saturday, the latest in a series of exposures of alleged U.S. spy programs.
Der Spiegel quoted from a September 2010 "top secret" U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) document that it said fugitive former NSA contractor Edward Snowden had taken with him, and the weekly's journalists had seen in part. The document outlines how the NSA bugged offices and spied on EU internal computer networks in Washington and at the United Nations, not only listening to conversations and phone calls but also gaining access to documents and emails. The document explicitly called the EU a "target".
U.S. officials could not immediately be reached for comment.
Martin Schulz, the president of the European Parliament, said that if the report was correct, it would have a "severe impact" on relations between the EU and the United States. "On behalf of the European Parliament, I demand full clarification and require further information speedily from the U.S. authorities with regard to these allegations," he said in an emailed statement.
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn told Der Spiegel: "If these reports are true, it's disgusting."The United States would be better off monitoring its secret services rather than its allies. We must get a guarantee from the very highest level now that this stops immediately."
Snowden's disclosures in foreign media about U.S. surveillance programs have ignited a political furor in the United States and abroad over the balance between privacy rights and national security. According to Der Spiegel, the NSA also targeted telecommunications at the Justus Lipsius building in Brussels, home to the European Council, the collective of EU national governments.Without citing sources, the magazine reported that more than five years ago security officers at the EU had noticed several missed calls and traced them to NSA offices within the NATO compound in Brussels. Each EU member state has rooms in Justus Lipsius with phone and Internet connections, which ministers can use.
Snowden, a U.S. citizen, fled the United States to Hong Kong in May, a few weeks before the publication in the Guardian and the Washington Post of details he provided about secret U.S. government surveillance of Internet and phone traffic. Snowden, 30, has been holed up in a Moscow airport transit area since last weekend. The leftist government of Ecuador is reviewing his request for asylum.
Der Spiegel quoted from a September 2010 "top secret" U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) document that it said fugitive former NSA contractor Edward Snowden had taken with him, and the weekly's journalists had seen in part. The document outlines how the NSA bugged offices and spied on EU internal computer networks in Washington and at the United Nations, not only listening to conversations and phone calls but also gaining access to documents and emails. The document explicitly called the EU a "target".
U.S. officials could not immediately be reached for comment.
Martin Schulz, the president of the European Parliament, said that if the report was correct, it would have a "severe impact" on relations between the EU and the United States. "On behalf of the European Parliament, I demand full clarification and require further information speedily from the U.S. authorities with regard to these allegations," he said in an emailed statement.
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn told Der Spiegel: "If these reports are true, it's disgusting."The United States would be better off monitoring its secret services rather than its allies. We must get a guarantee from the very highest level now that this stops immediately."
Snowden's disclosures in foreign media about U.S. surveillance programs have ignited a political furor in the United States and abroad over the balance between privacy rights and national security. According to Der Spiegel, the NSA also targeted telecommunications at the Justus Lipsius building in Brussels, home to the European Council, the collective of EU national governments.Without citing sources, the magazine reported that more than five years ago security officers at the EU had noticed several missed calls and traced them to NSA offices within the NATO compound in Brussels. Each EU member state has rooms in Justus Lipsius with phone and Internet connections, which ministers can use.
Snowden, a U.S. citizen, fled the United States to Hong Kong in May, a few weeks before the publication in the Guardian and the Washington Post of details he provided about secret U.S. government surveillance of Internet and phone traffic. Snowden, 30, has been holed up in a Moscow airport transit area since last weekend. The leftist government of Ecuador is reviewing his request for asylum.
Loser Araysar
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Excellent post.
You're probably a nice guy, but on this issue you are a lousy shill, chaos.
Some talk starting on how this may delay a EU-US free trade agreement that France only just agreed to let the EU start working on. If so, the NSA caused considerable damage to the US economy - probably more than that caused by terrorism.
We're looking at $700bn in annual trades and $2.4tn in foreign direct investments between the EU and the US, just about half of which is exports from the US. Every month that this is delayed may easily cause billions in economic losses. Somehow, I don't think whatever information they gained was worth that much.
Maybe this will give Canada an opportunity to finally close our trade deal with the EU that has been in limbo for some time.
God damn I love me some snowden, the guy that keeps on giving ! Need moar ! And hopping it becomes better and better until the last part !
iannis
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At the end of the day money is money and you know that this information will more likely translate more into specific leverage than long delays. It's a bargaining chip that favors the EU. If I were European I'd actually be kinda happy about that. Whatever deal it is just got better.
For them. Thanks Obama / NSA.
I'm somewhat amazed (ok not really) that both the NSA and the diplomats are so incompetent when it comes to their own security. OpenVPN on a private fully disk encrypted laptop is cheap, effective, and not very difficult to set up and use. Internet cafes? lol. My router firmware bundles in OpenVPN.
And three years after Manning's leak, it happens again, because the government still feels the need to have millions of people-- including half a million contractors-- top secret clearance and put all the eggs in one basket. So much for need-to-know. On top of it all, they give civilian contractors and enlisted personnel with the rank of private first class (which is the third lowest rank) admin rights.
Manning had warning signs of being unstable before he got caught, but they were desperate for IT staff in Iraq, so they overlooked it. The government classifies so much garbage that it's essentially collapsing under the weight of its own IT infrastructure, which parallels a certain East German agency.
And three years after Manning's leak, it happens again, because the government still feels the need to have millions of people-- including half a million contractors-- top secret clearance and put all the eggs in one basket. So much for need-to-know. On top of it all, they give civilian contractors and enlisted personnel with the rank of private first class (which is the third lowest rank) admin rights.
Manning had warning signs of being unstable before he got caught, but they were desperate for IT staff in Iraq, so they overlooked it. The government classifies so much garbage that it's essentially collapsing under the weight of its own IT infrastructure, which parallels a certain East German agency.