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A Christian caliphate probably.

Koch Brothers donate via at least three names directly - Koch Industries and each brother individually which they conveniently ignore. (And of course note, private donations from individuals are ignored for OpenSecrets.org)

Additionally "politically active nonprofits" are not subject to their numbers as well, and case in point my friend Jeremy D. Adams who was bankrolled in his campaign by a Koch supported PAC, that one was a "politically active nonprofit" (admittedly the portion he saw of it as a very low tier politician in the Carolinas that are hardly battlegrounds was almost nothing but still they're involved in SOME degree).

I like the part where they compare the Koch Brothers--two dudes--to entire unions, and then say "see, they're not so bad!"

Has anyone claimed the PACs are one-sided?

You're beating on a straw horse, retard.

And $60m attributed to them is a far cry from the opensecrets.org figure which just goes to show how much they try to mask things. (And note opensecrets.org is quoting 8 election years versus the ONE that they spent $60m in, it's THAT far off)

Also note that for a good hunk of that timeframe PACs didn't even exist in their current form - it was 2010 that the new laws went into place that made them nefarious - for the other 12 years that OpenSecrets.org represents they were any other thing that had publicly available information and really couldn't do anything nefarious.

So yea, awesome data - if you're a retard who is incapable of seeing through smoke and mirrors.

[LOL @ $18m attributed to them for 8 elections on OS.org when there's $60m that has been found for just 2012 alone - gogo legitimacy - assuming their spending was lets say half of 2012 on average, that's $240m, only off by a bit over 1000% - legitimate source to quote right there, only off by 1000% - I think the monkey making superbowl picks does better than that]

fanaskin wants more money in politics.

fanaskin_sl said:

araysar your democrat compatriots not even 2-3 pages ago were explaining how most of the money for pacs aren't spent, so comparing donations to spending is =/=

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Lots spend over 70% in "adminstration" and the like, yea. Spending needs to be compared to spending - some almost just use it like a money laundering operation. (As stupid as it sounds, it really should work well for such if you're so inclined from everything I understand about their privacy laws)

Araysar_sl said:

Just out of curiosity, is there a government in this world, or even in the history of mankind, that conservatives would actually like and be comfortable with?

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I'd be curious to get an answer to this.

Bronze Age Tribalism probably best embodies the spirit of American conservatives when it comes to government.

I think Fana's watched V for Vendetta 20 times too many.