Tripamang
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If you haven't watched this before it's definitely worth a listen. It's quite the story and has a lot of similar themes to the guy finding the team with the craft in Indonesia.
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The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown
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If you haven't watched this before it's definitely worth a listen. It's quite the story and has a lot of similar themes to the guy finding the team with the craft in Indonesia.
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The dude definitely seems like he's genuinely recalling something from memory.
Pasteton
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This could all be a massive psyop to cowtow Putin and others into fearing that the us has insanely superior hidden tech. I mean , it’s a tossup whether super secret advanced rnd tech versus alien tech is more likely - both possibilities seem so insanely unlikely compared to it all being a hoax or misinterpretation . But it’s also kind of amusing watching skeptics twist themselves into all kinds of pretzels trying to explain away some of those Air Force videos, so who knows.
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Masakari
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I honestly believe this is plausible.
Another thing to note, be mindful of people and claims. There has been plenty of bullshit in the UFO pot for decades in order to misdirect or exploit folks. It'll probably become a much bigger thing soon.
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Masakari
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This is extremely annoying to me...
Metallic flying orbs seen around the world, baffling NASA and the Pentagon - National | Globalnews.ca
Unidentified flying orbs have been spotted at several different velocities, NASA says. Some do not appear to move at all while others have been observed in active flight.globalnews.ca
We have a government film of a "metallic orb" flying around in the mideast over a military base.
As we have heard, these things are all over the place. But, the military says they are typically on the East and West coast of the US and around China. They give off no heat, meaning they have no known prolusion system, and can go faster than the speed of sound if they want.
When I heard about this kind of stuff in the past it was from the people working for the Blink 182 guy, but now this is the military with a film.
Again, the military says they don't know what they are but at everywhere and common.
Unless it's all fake...these orbs work on principles that we don't know how to duplicate.
Wow, that video is insane. Watched a lot of pred porn when I was overseas but never saw anything like that.
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A longer interview with whistleblower Grusch just ended.
- first ufo was 1933
-vatican transferred it to the US in 44/45
- Vatican is aware of non human intelligences
- NHIs most likely colocated in another dimension
- Roswell was real
- they have multiple working craft
- non human intelligences have killed people
- presidents weren't not considered need to know and we're not read in
- the us may have an agreement with an NHI
- we have football field sizes crafts
- we do not know how nhi will react to disclosure
- we have multiple methods for taking down craft
- they have fucked with nuclear weapons
- their power source could destroy earth if they wanted
- we do not understand their intentions
- there are other whistleblowers
- there is an arms race between us/China/russia
I probably missed a point or two
- first ufo was 1933
-vatican transferred it to the US in 44/45
- Vatican is aware of non human intelligences
- NHIs most likely colocated in another dimension
- Roswell was real
- they have multiple working craft
- non human intelligences have killed people
- presidents weren't not considered need to know and we're not read in
- the us may have an agreement with an NHI
- we have football field sizes crafts
- we do not know how nhi will react to disclosure
- we have multiple methods for taking down craft
- they have fucked with nuclear weapons
- their power source could destroy earth if they wanted
- we do not understand their intentions
- there are other whistleblowers
- there is an arms race between us/China/russia
I probably missed a point or two
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Looks like you have most of it covered, just some more emphasis on a few points.
- Vatican gave the location to where the downed 1933 crash could be found in '44 or '45* - said craft was taken by the US
- Grusch seemed to pretty strongly indicate it appeared the US had an "agreement" with the NHI
- He also seemed to signal that the US had methods to "catch" or down said UAPs
- Indicated that some of the intelligence "cabal" might be worried about their well-being with the retrieval program (security, and general danger)
- seemed to get a sense from Grusch that the NHI weren't necessarily friendly, and seemed to generally act negatively towards us
I'm not sure what to think, who really knows, I'd probably think it might be a giant PsyOp, or if it is happening I really wonder if we'd actually get any sort of disclosure. That being said Grusch came off really well. We'll see, he has indicated pretty clearly that he gave documents, names, locations etc to the Inspector General, so the ball is in their court. Definitely possible Grusch got PsyOp'd himself with a disinformation campaign.
For what it's worth, Grusch seems far more credible/believable than Bob Lazar, or even Elizondo.
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Pasteton
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This shits starting to get too wild. Possible psychotic break? He seems too coherent though. Intentional hoax to get sane people to back away from believing something of substance could exist to this? Maybe misfed info? Either way, interdimensional aliens with nearly a century of governmental agreements seems like a bridge too far
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That's literally the whole thing, always has been.
Guess we'll see if the time finally draws near or if it'll be buried again.
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As far as that last one goes... if a craft actually burst into faster than light travel in our atmosphere or even close by, the resulting wave emitted by that would likely strip off the Earth's atmosphere in one shot. Something I have rarely seen brought up, that any kind of fast travel pulse would have massive negative effects on the surrounding area's stability. Anything that can go that fast...could pretty much wipe us out at any time. It's more interesting to watch us though it seems.
Also wouldn't be surprised if it turned out there were no actual space travel component to all of this (maybe space travel really is impossible) and these things were just crossing through dimensions.
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Julian The Apostate
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Ok, I don’t want to be an experiencer anymore. Ignorance is bliss. If any NHI is listening I’ll sell out anyone on this message board and their mother too for a holodeck subscription.
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Wow, busy weekend for you guys!
I had a thought. You guys always ask me (and others) what would make me believe that NHIs/UFOs/IDCEs exist, implication being that I'm a jerk and NO evidence will ever be enough for me. Ok, cool. So now you guys tell me, what would convince you that all of this has other, more terrestrial explanations? Or that people are just making shit up? It seems for many of you that as long as one person says they have info, or one person posts a blurry video/image, you want to believe. So how are we any different, just on opposite sides?
I had a thought. You guys always ask me (and others) what would make me believe that NHIs/UFOs/IDCEs exist, implication being that I'm a jerk and NO evidence will ever be enough for me. Ok, cool. So now you guys tell me, what would convince you that all of this has other, more terrestrial explanations? Or that people are just making shit up? It seems for many of you that as long as one person says they have info, or one person posts a blurry video/image, you want to believe. So how are we any different, just on opposite sides?
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You can't prove something doesn't exist. If someone is willing to believe without evidence then there's not much you can do to talk them out of it. The old saying goes something like "You can't reason someone out of a belief they were never reasoned into in the first place."
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Julian The Apostate
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The most convincing thing to me is the myriad amount sensor evidence tracking these objects that are reaching speeds and performing manuevers that humans have no chance of doing especially without breaking the sound barrier and without leaving any kind of heat signature.
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The way I look at it is, it's all most likely false / disinformation / whatever, but it's fun to think about and discuss if you assume for a moment that it's all true. Seriously, WHAT IF it is all true?? Also, whether YOU believe it or not doesn't make one damn bit of difference.
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