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BrutulTM

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alright so what happens to the people that never hear of Christ before they die, what happens to them ?
I'm not really a bible scholar so I would just be googling an answer. I think maybe there's something about they would get a chance at judgement day or something. I don't really know though.
 

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Obviously it varies depending upon who you ask, even those within the same religion, but the nuns that my coworker helps out periodically at their monastery straight up say that anyone not of their faith (Greek Orthodox) is a heretic and going to Hell, and that anyone not baptized is as well. Which includes anyone that has never heard of Christ, anyone born BEFORE Christ, etc. But then he goes to the next monastery and they are a lot more tolerant. The ones that want to condemn everyone to Hell came straight from Greece.

Personally I can't reconcile a God that would condemn everyone but a select few to eternal suffering. So I have my own interpretation, and hopefully I'm close.
 
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My opinion is that religions are for the most part corrupt man made organizations, either created or corrupted over time by those who seek power over others. Hell isn't for those who reject Jesus, someone many may have never heard of. It's for rejecting the ideals he stood for, ideals you can find by searching within yourself and listening to your heart and seeing the suffering going on all around you, which can generally boil down to "love + wisdom". As for hell, I just see it as the absence of those ideals, or the absence of love, because it's full of those who rejected it.
 
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BrutulTM

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Obviously it varies depending upon who you ask, even those within the same religion, but the nuns that my coworker helps out periodically at their monastery straight up say that anyone not of their faith (Greek Orthodox) is a heretic and going to Hell, and that anyone not baptized is as well. Which includes anyone that has never heard of Christ, anyone born BEFORE Christ, etc. But then he goes to the next monastery and they are a lot more tolerant. The ones that want to condemn everyone to Hell came straight from Greece.

Personally I can't reconcile a God that would condemn everyone but a select few to eternal suffering. So I have my own interpretation, and hopefully I'm close.
There are definitely those that believe that. I'm just saying it's not a requirement for being a Christian.
 

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any of you faggots that don’t want to hear my new age hippy bullshit put me on ignore.

I’ve been looking back at my atheism with a different perspective. Ive been having a lot of conversations with someone I’m close with. Ever since I told him I believe in a creator again, while thrilled I’m no longer an atheist, he has been optimistically trying to get me to go back to the mainstream version of Christianity I was raised in and it got me thinking.

My idea of hell is suffering for eternity. My idea of eternity is if you think that every single atom in the universe each represents 100 trillion years, that is not even a tiny fraction of eternity.

If I was forced into believing the mainstream view of Christianity with no alternatives available I’d have to either kill myself to get out of this world or become a missionary, buy a boat, and try to convert the people on sentinel island. I could not coexist in this world if mainstream Christianity was the only option I had available. I couldn’t cope with the majority of humanity going to hell for, mainly, not being born to Christian parents.
I once heard Hell described as the complete absence of God/the creator/whatever you want to call it. In my mind it feels correct. Not necessarily a punishment but a simple, "you have chosen to reject me so here you go, enjoy eternity without me".
 
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Julian The Apostate

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Hey, at least you state right up front that it is just your opinions and thoughts. You could just be posting random Twatter links with absolutely no commentary as to what you think about it.

I respect you and others that at least own a position and put yourselves out there. Even if I don't agree with something like that, who cares? At least you took a stance.
Hey man, thanks for posting. I like really MFF’s posts and the fact that he doesn’t need to post his opinion all the time. This phenomenon is so complex and confusing for a million different reasons I think it’s better to withhold judgment rather than take a stance on every little piece of information/misinformation. I don’t think anyone should ever feel the need to provide their opinion when posting a link that relates directly relates to this topic. I’ve been balls deep in this thread and looking into this phenomenon for a few years now and only recently feel like I understand it enough from a certain angle that I feel like I can start posting my opinions. No one should feel compelled to post opinions about this. MMF posts a lot of stuff that I don’t run into anywhere but this thread so I appreciate that. I don’t really give a fuck what his opinion is, I’m glad I formed my own opinions about what he posts.
 
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WIth what's going on in Ukraine it makes a ton of sense that every defense contractor would be madly developing drones. What doesn't make sense though that they would be testing them at night in populated areas. Why wouldn't they just fly them out at the Nevada test sight like all the other experimental flying shit?
Only explanation that would make sense is that the drones or whatever is being developed is to be deployed in populated areas and they can't get the test data they want in a fully controlled environment.
 

Julian The Apostate

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My feeling on this phenomenon is that nobody is looking at the big picture because it sounds too fucking crazy. If you want to start to see the big picture my opinion would be to start with reading Passport to Magonia.
 

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Thought this was pretty good.


3:13 - 9:21 - INTRO
9:22 - 9:59 - IS THERE A COVER-UP OF NONHUMAN DISCOVERIES?
10:00 - 13:01 - WILL CONGRESS MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE UAP MYSTERY?
13:02 - 16:29 - SHOULD THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL KEEP INFORMATION HIDDEN?
16:30 - 18:37 - IS RELEASING INFORMATION A SLIPPERY SLOPE?
18:38 - 23:26 - STATE OF THE CURRENT NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER
23:27 - 25:59 - WHAT HAPPENS IN THE WHITE HOUSE IF AN AIRCRAFT IS RECOVERED?
26:00 - 28:30 - WHY IS THERE A COVER-UP?
28:31 - 35:40 - COMPROMISED AREAS IN THE GOVERNMENT
35:41 - 38:59 - COULD THE U.S. GET AHEAD OF TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES?
39:00 - 41:34 - WHY ARE U.S. GOV'T LEADERS QUIET ON THE UAP ISSUE?
41:35 - 44:26 - DO OUR ENEMEIES KNOW MORE THAN US?
44:27 - 45:49 - IS THERE A REVERSE ENGINEERING PROGRAM TO RETRIEVE NONHUMAN TECHNOLOGY?
45:50 - 47:44 - ISRAEL'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE LEGACY PROGRAM
47:45 - 54:09 - TRUMP'S 2017 WIN
54:10 - 56:22 - ECONOMIC CONCERNS IN THE U.S. STOCK EXCHANGE
56:23 - 57:02 - WILL WE SEE A BIG DISCLOUSURE?
57:03 - 57:30 - OUTRO
 
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Julian The Apostate

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I’ve hated the Don and all his bullshit until recently and now I’ve completely changed my opinion of him. I think what’s really happening is that him and Elon are dismantling the deep state, the small amount of people at the very tip top that have been able to promote fear and division world wide through controlling a few at the top in NATO, news exes, Smithsonian institution, FDA, religious institutions, government leaders, big pharma, MIC, etc.
I think that’s really what DOGE is doing.

I think peace in Ukraine is utmost top priority at any cost right now. Based on that I think the easiest way to see what media is comprised is to look at who is pushing the hardest for continued war in Ukraine, that is the media controlled by the evil deep state. Same principle applies to news media that it absolutely losing their shit about what DOGE is up to and trying to stir up as much fear, doubt, and division about that. I’m praying for the Don and Elon to keep doing what they are doing, really believe what they are doing is extremely important in all this.

 

Julian The Apostate

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When you look any single topic or post related to this thread on a case by case basis the only possible outcome is to become completely divided, utterly confused, and inevitably bickering back and forth with each other. I now believe that is done intentionally by design. It’s only when you stop falling for that and can step back and look at the big picture that this all begins to make some sense.

For a long time I couldn’t figure out why none of the talking heads will come out and say what they all seem to know but won’t say. I now believe it’s because the big picture is so fucking crazy sounding that the evil forces controlling the media would use it to immediately discredit them and it turn the whole disclosure movement into a complete laughing stock. I now believe that we are in the middle of slow drip disclosure process where they are going to start to reveal unbelievable truths about government corruption, incredible technology that has been hidden from us, proof of ET contact, proof of world changing hidden tech kept secret for generations, proof of hidden earth and Martian history, etc. By the time the general public has absorbed all that information the big picture truths will be much easier to digest.
 
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Julian The Apostate

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Taking my train of thought to its logical conclusions has two possible outcomes.

#1 - Once the good guys determine humanity is ready they will bring in some big motherfucking ships for us to take a gander at. We, the well informed members of the FOH community, will recognize that the bros in the big ships come in peace. We will act as societal anchor points to promote peace, love, and unity and act as a rock among all of our social contacts. In the middle of all the confusion, the remnants of the old power structures will try to spin false narratives, like evil alien invasions, to promote fear, division, and chaos. We will not fall for it. Deep down we are smart enough to know that it these beings meant us harm we’d already be dead.
We will assure everyone that they come in peace and encourage everyone to go out and greet them with peace, love, and a strong desire to learn. We will enter into a mentorship program with our space brothers and sisters. Congratulations, clown world officially over.

#2- Clown world continues as normal and during the next asshat of the year award I will admit that wishful thinking got the better of me and copy every post I’ve made in the last two weeks into a single post(spoilered, of course) and personally nominate myself for the Asshat of the year. Win or lose I will change my avatar out of respect to Christopher Hitchens.
 
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MusicForFish

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Leonard Nimoy Reaction GIF

 
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Julian The Apostate

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At some point in the Ukraine war I realized that opposition to Russia and expanding NATO to the point of forcing conflict with Russia was a long term strategic goal of the USA. In order to make that happen they had to manufacture the consent of the American people in order to keep American public opinion in favor of supporting Ukraine. It eventually became plainly obvious to me that the IC of the United States would provide stories to news reporters to push a narrative. Tit for tat, a reporter gets a story, IC gets their narrative pushed no matter is the story is actually true or not(Putins cancer anyone?).

So recently I’ve come to the realization that the exact same media/IC apparatus is, I believe, the same one that is now pushing back against peace with Russia and against DOGE. It’s also possible that this same apparatus has been used against Trump and specifically the Jan 6 and stolen election narrative. If so I fell victim to it like so many others. But don’t mind me, I’m just a crazy guy that believes in UFOs and none of this is connected.
 
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