The Predator (2018)

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Every 5 years or so I give one of these movies a rewatch, only to quickly understand why I didn't remember seeing it before.

This thread will prevent that from happening. Thanks FoH.
 

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If you look at Predators from a screenwriter's perspective, you realize its almost beat for beat copy of the Original, thats why people tend to rank it higher than others. Even some scenes are copied verbatim like jumping into a waterfall, because how can you otherwise plausibly escape the Predator who has zeroed in on you halfway through the movie?

TBH, the more I see what people come up with in subsequent movies, the more I think that Predator was a lightning in a bottle phenomena that can't be reproduced. Most of the appeal of the original was you had no idea who it was for half the movie, and you had no idea what was behind the mask for 99% of the movie. So unless you go in a completely different direction by going the comic book Yautja route, either you're making the same movie basically over and over again (Predator, Predators) but without the single most important factor that made original so good (the mystery of Predator) or you need to just go full ham into the mythos with shit like AvP, Yautja, Predator homeworld, Predator Wars, whatever, etc.
This is the exact reason why aliens was successful. It was a sequel, but it was a completely different style of movie. Alien was a horror film, aliens was an action film. And it's why all the other alien films have been more or less forgettable, they did nothing to add to the franchise.
 

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The first AvP had some interesting ideas, but just changed the in universe rules for a lot of the source material. Plus those of us old enough to have read Darkhorse comic AvP series were wanting Earthwar or better still the Broken Tusk Machico storyline. Instead we got a 2000s style horror movie with an AVP skin stretched over it. The Denver one was even worse. Promethius and Covenant were especially disappointing because there was some really good potential there that got completely squandered. The Predator was probably Shane just in over his head, as he has done excellent movies before (The Nice Guys being his magnum opus imo) and there was fucktons of on set drama he was not able to cope with.

Of the remaining movies, you have Predators which is good, but its basically a redo of the first movie with the Fishbourne twist tossed in. Alien 3 was a decent idea with some good acting, but it came on the heels of the Aliens masterpiece and shit all over that movie by killing several key fan favorites off screen. Alien 4 had some decent concepts, but it was basically Josh Whedon test piloting his Firefly universe with the AVP IP.

So yeah, Predators is the only one that has remotely worked or been entertaining, but it still had a weak ending.
 
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Wasn’t expecting animation, but lower budget way to explore that. Although how does the Predator in WW2 going after pilots expect to get a trophy?
 

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I'm never gonna like that choppy low framerate looking style of animation, hate that it keeps getting pushed in various ways.
 
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looks kinda retarded tbh, teenage predator? Is she an android? The alien planet stuff itself looks cool

i thought this was supposed to be predator in 1880s i guess not
 
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looks kinda retarded tbh, teenage predator? Is she an android? The alien planet stuff itself looks cool

i thought this was supposed to be predator in 1880s i guess not


Not going to be down on it from a teaser and frankly I think this looks cool as hell, they are atleast trying something WAY different and that should be applauded.

Same director as Prey. Predator protagonist is something that can be very cool if done well and the visual style is pretty badass too tbh. Fanning looks like a Wayland Android. Dude who is mocapped for the Predator is Samoan

Director / Studio is pitching it as this
"film is set in the future on a remote planet, where a young Predator (Schuster-Koloamatangi), outcast from his clan, finds an unlikely ally in Thia (Fanning) and embarks on a treacherous journey in search of the ultimate adversary."
 
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These are crappy films, but they are my kind of crappy. Looks metal. I am in.

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Not going to be down on it from a teaser and frankly I think this looks cool as hell, they are atleast trying something WAY different and that should be applauded.

Same director as Prey. Predator protagonist is something that can be very cool if done well and the visual style is pretty badass too tbh. Fanning looks like a Wayland Android. Dude who is mocapped for the Predator is Samoan

Director / Studio is pitching it as this
"film is set in the future on a remote planet, where a young Predator (Schuster-Koloamatangi), outcast from his clan, finds an unlikely ally in Thia (Fanning) and embarks on a treacherous journey in search of the ultimate adversary."
So I guess they're trying to go the route of the original AVP comics with a predator teaming up with a girl or whatever the hell.

I mean I guess you're right at least in the fact they're trying something different but it's not really that different than what's already been done in comic book form.

Also, I agree with Void Void that it looks like DEI predator. Almost looks like the predator is a female predator, I don't really know. Maybe it's a male Predator it's autistic because of the predators from the last movie Shane black did where the predators were stealing the power of autism, but now they realize that was a big mistake, and that's why that Predator is an outcast.

I didn't watch the last goddamn movie, I'm still really have no desire to. To me the franchise ended with the third movie, which despite being a bunch of callbacks, was still a fun film.

Maybe it'll be entertaining to see the Predator fighting all kinds of alien monsters instead of just humans, but I'm not going to hold my breath, let alone go and see it in the theater.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, both this and aliens had everything mapped out, and they had just stuck with canon, it would have been easy street for the franchises.
 
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So I guess they're trying to go the route of the original AVP comics with a predator teaming up with a girl or whatever the hell.

I mean I guess you're right at least in the fact they're trying something different but it's not really that different than what's already been done in comic book form.

Also, I agree with Void Void that it looks like DEI predator. Almost looks like the predator is a female predator, I don't really know. Maybe it's a male Predator it's autistic because of the predators from the last movie Shane black did where the predators were stealing the power of autism, but now they realize that was a big mistake, and that's why that Predator is an outcast.

I didn't watch the last goddamn movie, I'm still really have no desire to. To me the franchise ended with the third movie, which despite being a bunch of callbacks, was still a fun film.

Maybe it'll be entertaining to see the Predator fighting all kinds of alien monsters instead of just humans, but I'm not going to hold my breath, let alone go and see it in the theater.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, both this and aliens had everything mapped out, and they had just stuck with canon, it would have been easy street for the franchises.

Its supposed to be a "teenage" one, and the actor is a big dude lol. The faces have never looked great as CGI but its the only real way to do a movie like this. The "girl" will be recording and reporting everything it does back to Wayland Yutani I am sure, its not going to be killing, they seem to be pretty fragile.
 
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Its supposed to be a "teenage" one, and the actor is a big dude lol. The faces have never looked great as CGI but its the only real way to do a movie like this.
Why does it need to be CGI when the first two films had practical effects, and they looked completely believable. I don't know maybe it's because there's not a lot of dudes out there like Stan Winston but know how to make awesome movie monsters any longer. The stupid The Thing prequel is on YouTube right now and I watched it the other evening because I think I've only ever seen it once, and it was all CGI and just horrible. I then did the right thing and watched the original for the countless time.
 
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Its supposed to be a "teenage" one, and the actor is a big dude lol. The faces have never looked great as CGI but its the only real way to do a movie like this. The "girl" will be recording and reporting everything it does back to Wayland Yutani I am sure, its not going to be killing, they seem to be pretty fragile.

Wayland androids in the Aliens films have been shown to be much faster or stronger than humans, but not significantly more durable. Although they could easily design units to be better at certain things within limits. I wonder if in the film it ends up they specifically placed this unit on that planet with the express purpose of trying to observe the Predator aliens due to their history with Xenomorphs.
 

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Why does it need to be CGI when the first two films had practical effects, and they looked completely believable. I don't know maybe it's because there's not a lot of dudes out there like Stan Winston but know how to make awesome movie monsters any longer. The stupid The Thing prequel is on YouTube right now and I watched it the other evening because I think I've only ever seen it once, and it was all CGI and just horrible. I then did the right thing and watched the original for the countless time.

You wanna get real mad?
The Thing prequel was a labor of love and they spent the time to do all the effects practically. Studio came in and said noooooooooope and made them redo em as a rush CGI job.
 
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You wanna get real mad?
The Thing prequel was a labor of love and they spent the time to do all the effects practically. Studio came in and said noooooooooope and made them redo em as a rush CGI job.
Oh I know.

I remember when it was getting made and I was keeping up with the production and pretty excited because originally they were planning on using all practical effects, but then they swooped in and CGIed everything. There's even some I guess test footage or pre-production stuff showing some of their creations that looked amazing, but then some assholes in suits decided to ruin it.

Could have been a really good movie, but here we are.
 

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Am I the only one thinking that's the DEI predator?
Definitely a PoC (Predator of color). Bet we find out they are a matriarchal society and the real badasses are the female predators we haven’t even imagined!
 
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I’m glad the obvious was caught as in once you get good enough to catch it you won’t need to go to the early life section for levels of catching the obvious you all are

The point being you have it reaching its hand down to pick something up …kind of alien looking hand forearm but not what I call a predator

Then it’s running through some vegetation that can defend itself and you get a “wait a minute is that supposed to be the predator ?! Looks like brown black dude running with dreads”

Then you get to its face and yelling with the ridiculous cgi and then when you add in the actor IMG_5992.png

You can hear the executives and writers yelling “maintain his essence don’t lose what makes him him”

Kevin fucking Peter Hall is a mega black dude and was the predator for the first two legit predator movies and his job was to be a tall fucker to be the coat hanger for the actual predator not hired to be seen

This new predator they maintained the actors actual skin color and incorporated him into the predator and probably even mocapped his face so it’s him doing the yelling and other “acting” of the face

Its like when that manlet Asian Ang Lee director stepped in and did the “acting” for the awful looking hulk movie and he was responsible for the emotions conveyed on that goofy looking hulk

It’s been 35 fucking years since predator 2

AVP gave us “our leading man needs to look it face” from that retard WS Anderson and having the predator be kept up in running by a human black chick

AVPR suburban commando predator with dorky kids

Predators with the fucking twink pianist and twink venom actor

The Predator with fucking autism and the worst predator cgi fuck fest ever

Prey with an even more unbelievable hero in the womanlet native and stupid looking “let me interpret what the predator should look like come on guys don’t you know they evolve and stuff”

Now this just fuck


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How do they keep fucking these up? I fucking love Predator 2 in LA, that was some badass gritty shit. Especially the beginning. That predator was coked out of his mind and had a Bobby Flay good time in that warehouse, he was like fucking Tim the TOOL MAN Taylor, more power! Then dudes banging that bitch and sucks for both of em tbh....

That's the shit I am talking about. Get back to the good ole shit and fuck diversity and all that bull shit. I don't give a fuck what gender a predator is.... If it has boobs I am assuming it's female and they have yet to show a predator dick yet so....

Requiem tried to be "edgy" but it failed fantastically although the hospital scene is kind of dope and I don't personally want to see family drama or relationship drama in my fucking PREDATOR movie, I don't give a fuck if your child is autistic tbh, unless that fucker is bringing down the whole town with that fucking equipment, I think AirBud the dog would have been a better placeholder for that character. Fuck I am old and cranky, KRA! Fuck Hollywood!
 
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