The Walking Dead

Spears wouldn't matter. You could have the 300 Spartans lined up, but then a ninja zombie would appear from behind them and the whole thing would turn to shit.

enzie_sl said:

Yea, I guess that's true, but it should still show scars around the patch based on the severity of this specific injury. It does in the comics, and he often doesn't wear it for certain plot points. Like, a part of his face is gone, not just the eyeball missing from the socket. The socket itself has been blown away.

I'm sure that's how they'll handle it though, just put a very large eyepatch on him.

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They can fit it in the budget now that they don't have to spend time washing that fucking KIA.

In regards to the spears if they do the Hilltop in this show, and since they've started sticking to the comic storyline a bit more I assume they will, they use spears pretty heavily there. They ran out of ammo a while ago.

ganthorn_sl said:

Or 50 shovels, rakes, etc from home depot repurposed

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Personally, I'm rolling with an aluminum baseball bat, forget spear. It would be too easy for the end to get stuck in a zombie's head, or for the end to fall off, as it's been jury rigged. Get me a good old baseball bat made from that space metal any day.

If I was dealing with zombies I'd want whatever weapon kept me from them at the longest range. Plus I'd probably just run away instead of the characters in this show which seem fine to engage 15 or so zombies in the middle of a field despite them shambling around at 0.01 mph.

But seriously, your alpha threat here isn't the zombies, it's other humans with guns. So you aren't going to be lugging around a pilum just because it lets you poke zombies from ten feet away.

Also, the tweeted shot of Carl in makeup does look like his temple was blown out.

I brought up the same point to a friend, but he pointed out that in real life, people survive gunshots all the time, even to the head, so it's extremely extremely unlikely, but not 100% out of the realm of possibility, even without adequate medical care.

Maester Chuk_sl said:

all the regulars can be played in EQ or DnD.

Daryl=half elf ranger
Michonne= erudite shadowknight
Carol=human Paladin
Glenn=some kind of rogue
Morgan=iksar monk
Abraham=Ogre or Barb warrior.

rick, let see, id say bard because every bard i have ever known in EQ was frigging temperamental because of all the song twisting they did so they were always under some kind of pain and stress.

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Finally watched it. Last night really was video gamey in the execution of the last scenes. But I was thinking they were intentionally doing it as a turning point to the series. Alexandria is here to stay. The main cast is here (until contract negotiations). Status quo will be the status quo and the only real changes will be on the periphery. Which...isnt a bad thing.

enzie_sl said:

I figured they were never gonna do it for practical purposes, putting the kid in makeup/cgi all the damn time, seems like it adds a lot of logistics to filming. and..

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Same reason another character hasn't lost their hand either.. -_-

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As much makeup as they use for all the zombies on the show, I don't think a fucked up eye is going to add that much of a problem. Eyepatch solves most of it anyway.

Cad_sl said:

Considering how often they fire their assault rifles on full auto even though they carry no ammunition at any time, how do you figure they ran out of ammo? They went full auto shooting zombies to save Glenn this week. Which is retarded because if you don't hit the head you might as well not shoot, and hitting the head full auto would be unlikely.

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I thought it was a bad idea because you're pretty likely to hit Glenn.

But in a world where everything is a head shot and you never run out of ammo, I guess that's not a concern. Speaking of which, Glenn with his 400 round magazine in a pistol was awesome. And then in the very same scene the revolver has a single round and then it's out, because "plot."

Cad_sl said:

Considering how often they fire their assault rifles on full auto even though they carry no ammunition at any time, how do you figure they ran out of ammo? They went full auto shooting zombies to save Glenn this week. Which is retarded because if you don't hit the head you might as well not shoot, and hitting the head full auto would be unlikely.

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I figured it out because in the comics Hilltop specifically said they ran out of ammo. It is also a reason Rick originally thought he could take on Neagan head-on because he assumed he had no ammo left as well. He thought he had the advantage because of superior firepower.

Lejina_sl said:

Am I really the only one bothered by Carl taking a bullet straight thru the eyeball (no exit wound on the side of the socket) and they fix it by applying pressure on the wound (she actually said that) and slapping a bandage on top? Or are you telling me she did brain surgery to remove the bullet and somehow his brain didn't get turned into a mush?

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I dont know anything about brain gunshot wounds specifically but its my understanding that the usual TV trope of "OMG have to remove the bullet" is pure fiction. Apparently in some cases its better off to leave the bullet in place, and in most cases removal of the bullet is a very low priority.

Blacklist is the worst offender -- I dont know how many emergency bullet removals theyve shown.

Slaythe_sl said:

Z Nation is decent in a cult sort of way. It's not great, but it's not trying to be. I think they take their minuscule budget pretty far though.

TWD is just lazy and bad and the reason I think we harp on that point so much is that it shouldn't be. The source material is good. It's on a network that has put effort into other legitimately good TV. The public just eats up zombies so they don't have to hold themselves to any standard. It's too bad.

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Z Nation with TWD budget would be cool.

Haven't seen the latest season of Z Nation yet, but the first season was definitely culty and cheesy at times, but sticks pretty well to the rules they set and doesn't do a lot of last minute make-shit-up to explain things. I also find the serious scenes in Z Nation to be better than TWD because TWD goes overboard with the melodrama and announcing to everyone for group discussion that moral decisions are in play. Z Nation just has characters do shit, which I find preferable and better drama.

Like when the group was dying of thirst and Murphy was off scrounging and he takes the water from the Mom and daughter. It was a quick, simple, quiet scene, but good drama. It trusted that viewers would understand the implications without having to have the group sit around and discuss the nature of morality for half an episode. I don't think TWD writers trust their viewers enough to not make everything overly explanatory and I guess you can't really blame them.

I think the reason the show is so infuriating, is because the original show runner (I can never spell his name) was trying to make it his own with the basic framework of the comic. I always felt the CDC was introduced to give the show an endgame to move towards, because TV shows are usually more finite than a comic. However, he also was set on doing only 6-8 episode seasons, and quit in a huff shortly after that, when AMC wanted more shows per season on less budget. From there, I flat out think the production just had no clue how to actually pull it all together to make a complete package. The successive show runners after that just got progressively worse, to the point that the current one is trying too hard to follow the comic faithfully but with a foundation built on something that largely deviated from the source material, like wholesale changes to comic characters plus the addition of new characters as well. Season 5 was a complete train wreck to me (I personally thought Terminus was way too over the top due to an extreme fear of cannibalism), and I almost didn't start watching 6, but then they hooked me with the first episode. This last one was even better so they have me for the duration of this season at the very least.

Abefroman_sl said:

They can fit it in the budget now that they don't have to spend time washing that fucking KIA.

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Drinsic_sl said:

As much makeup as they use for all the zombies on the show, I don't think a fucked up eye is going to add that much of a problem. Eyepatch solves most of it anyway.

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No, guys.. It's not that it's expensive, or that they can't do it, it's that they've never had a main character that often has dramatic scenes/lots of dialogue, in prosthetics and makeup. They can get all the zombie extras ready at a separate time, and have them ready for the scene whenever. Even a little bit of special effects makeup on a main character means they have to show up hours earlier then the rest of the cast to be ready to shoot his scenes with them at the right time.
I'm guessing the actor who plays Carl has grown up enough and told them he's now willing to sit through an hour or more of makeup every time to do it. He's a 'mature' actor now, so he's got the patience to sit through the process. Previously, they probably couldn't get his 12-14yr old self to do it.
That's all I was saying, that I was surprised they did it, not that they couldn't do it. They can't go back on it, it's a permanent change to the character that adds some logistical issues for all future shoots. It has to really add something to the show/character for them to go through with it, and I guess they figure it's finally worth it.

Carl is just going to have an eyepatch i believe. He didn't even have a prosthetic for that shot, it was cgi. The bullet also didn't hit brain. It came in at the eye and ricocheted out after hitting the orbital bone. This was all info given out on Talking Dead.