Throne and Liberty (Formerly Project TL)
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Cinge
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Yeah I dont see how that is fun at all. Sure casters are somewhat use to it with cast times, but even they have instant casts to fill in gaps. And in a game with PVP where if you move you do zero dmg? How does a melee kill anything? They can just run forever and you cant do jack. Was watching a clip and the 2 people fighting were literally just standing facing each other right next to each other and just spamming attacks. Never moved once. Was hilarious and looked awful.
Ukerric
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You make a game for mobile, then someone reminds you that it has to run on a PC three weeks before beta.
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Kirun
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Eh, I feel like it has some charm. It's a throwback to MMOs of old and I appreciate that. Probably not my cup of tea, but I'm glad games like this exist.
Cinge
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What MMOs of old? I played most of them(from EQ/AC on), and all the melee could attack while moving.
Even the game this was based on I thought, lineage and lineage 2, didnt have these issues.
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Kirun
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Cinge
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well I am glad I never played those, if melee is locked into standing still to do any dmg.
Zindan
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Did you actually play L2? There is zero attacking while moving, and current L2 is a lot like TL.
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UO "melee combat", if you could call it that, was just autoattacks. You had to stop moving a little for the autoattack to fully play to hit stuff, but that just meant running at someone, stopping for like half a second for the animation to start, then moving to cancel the rest of the animation to reposition and what not. So I wouldn't say it was like that at all, but UO is also ancient shit. There was no melee skills back when I played(maybe they added that 10years in not sure). UO was very much about hybrid chars, and you had cast time on your spells, and you mixed melee at the same time, with melee allowing you to also cancel enemy casts, plus a bunch of weapon switching shenanigans to animation cancel and burst people down. There were pure melee chars but there were dumb ass shit relying on poison and fast attacks to prevent all casting but doing kinda meh dmg, just very consistent and "free" so you could sustain. Garbage for 1vs1 but good for team fights.
The combat was very simple, yet somehow deep due to the interactions between people and spellcasting and how damage would make your spells fail. That said, the combat was only semi decent when it involved PvP due to the rock paper scissor approach to spellcasting and melee attacks, it was absolute dogshit in pve since there was no reason to use all the fancy shit and melee was literally just autoattacking stuff to death.
Anyway in this case it looks pretty shit, plus the focus on pve means this type of combat is glaringly bad. It was one thing to have auto battle for afk grinding stuff in a game with standard combat, making your whole combat autobattling seems like a stretch.
Cinge
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I actually did. Maybe I just cant remember that far. Because it was forever ago. If I made a mistake, my bad. I did not play for long at all, so maybe if what your saying is true, was the reason I stopped. Usually though I do a mage class first in those types of games.
Cybsled
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With the exception of really ancient shit that used isometric perspective/was effectively 2D, virtually every MMO EQ1 and onward allowed movement while melee attacking.
Like others stated, this reeks of mobile game ported to PC
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Mahes
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The amount of exploitable combat shit that you could do back in the day with UO......
In Vas Por motherfucker......
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I wouldn't say that's entirely the case, action korean games also had animation locks on some of them, notably TERA. I think it works fine when you design your combat as an action game similar to Monster Hunter/Dark Souls combat stuff where animation locks act as balancing tool for your strongest skills, while other skills provide movement while attacking or have much faster animation letting you react more instead of comitting.
This from the videos looks like it's just standard cooldown based tab targetting combat but with movement lock for whatever reason, which sounds pretty terrible.
Srathor
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Everyone is freaking out about the game playing for you. Check it first. It might be a system to get boring farming time in, and make the game feel more alive. Kinda like the afk fishing from Black Desert, or the minions in black desert going on missions. Or Swotor's minions. Very little real info due to asian, along with histronics of tubers who panties get moist the more they bitch gives very little good info.