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Finally got around to purchasing this on the Steam sale. Figured that is has been enough years for CA to fix all their bullshit, which has been the history of their Total War games since probably at least Empire.

Any DLC I should pickup? I have Warhammer 1 + 2, so I think I get Chaos Dwarves and Ogres for free?
 

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Finally got around to purchasing this on the Steam sale. Figured that is has been enough years for CA to fix all their bullshit, which has been the history of their Total War games since probably at least Empire.

Any DLC I should pickup? I have Warhammer 1 + 2, so I think I get Chaos Dwarves and Ogres for free?
Honestly I wouldn't bother with DLC there's so much content. Maybe if you end up playing it to death the next time there's a mega DLC sale. 3 is also best bang for your buck DLC wise when it's on sale.
 
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Finally got around to purchasing this on the Steam sale. Figured that is has been enough years for CA to fix all their bullshit, which has been the history of their Total War games since probably at least Empire.

Any DLC I should pickup? I have Warhammer 1 + 2, so I think I get Chaos Dwarves and Ogres for free?
Chaos Dwarves isn't free but Ogres should be included (unless it was pre-order like Chaos in WH1). Chaos Dwarves are probably the best DLC, out of the WH3 DLCs so far, but I still have hardly touched WH3 compared to WH2 and prefer the races from 1 and 2.
 
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Finally got around to purchasing this on the Steam sale. Figured that is has been enough years for CA to fix all their bullshit, which has been the history of their Total War games since probably at least Empire.

Any DLC I should pickup? I have Warhammer 1 + 2, so I think I get Chaos Dwarves and Ogres for free?
CA has done a lot to improve WH3 since release, I'd say it's definitely better than WH2 at this point. Ogres were the preorder bonus race, so pretty sure you'll have to pay, though if you pick up Omens of Destruction (latest DLC) you'll have access to Golgfag Maneater who is the best Ogre campaign anyway. Chaos Dwarfs were never free to my knowledge, but it's a really good DLC.

Really all the WH3 DLC are good, especially Thrones of Decay. Shadows of Change was shit at release but they've added a bunch to it since and still are - next patch is revamping Kislev and adding some campaign options to Mother Ostankya I believe.
 
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I had to quit 3 because the siege fights were just unbearable and the campaigns felt weak. All that shit better now?
 
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I had to quit 3 because the siege fights were just unbearable and the campaigns felt weak. All that shit better now?

Campaigns are different depending on each individual legendary lord. They all have different objectives and abilities. Even within the same faction. Skaven for instance play completely different from one another. Ikit is a legendary engineer for instance which buffs all ranged and artillery units. Throt is a giant monster rat that buffs monster units. Skrolk is a high priest that creates plagues and buffs the monk units and gets lots of summons. Snitch is an assassin lord that buffs the stealth and ninja units.

Some of the newer campaigns are really incredible like the new dwarf thunder barge lord mikolai mcaisson that gets a flying black ark that buffs his armies and can recruit units.

Or lords that can teleport around the map doing missions like Arbaal for khorne or golgfag for ogres.

I just played an oxyotle lizardman campaign that could do that and it's very fun. Every 6 turns or so 4 special mission markers pop up and you can teleport to them and do the mission, but you can also stay in that area and conquer it if you want.

You can engage in a lot more diplomacy or warfare and build your empire up much faster with easier access to trade agreements or just sacking a bunch of settlements and running away.
 
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Campaigns are different depending on each individual legendary lord. They all have different objectives and abilities. Even within the same faction. Skaven for instance play completely different from one another. Ikit is a legendary engineer for instance which buffs all ranged and artillery units. Throt is a giant monster rat that buffs monster units. Skrolk is a high priest that creates plagues and buffs the monk units and gets lots of summons. Snitch is an assassin lord that buffs the stealth and ninja units.

Some of the newer campaigns are really incredible like the new dwarf thunder barge lord mikolai mcaisson that gets a flying black ark that buffs his armies and can recruit units.

Or lords that can teleport around the map doing missions like Arbaal for khorne or golgfag for ogres.

I just played an oxyotle lizardman campaign that could do that and it's very fun. Every 6 turns or so 4 special mission markers pop up and you can teleport to them and do the mission, but you can also stay in that area and conquer it if you want.

You can engage in a lot more diplomacy or warfare and build your empire up much faster with easier access to trade agreements or just sacking a bunch of settlements and running away.
I’ve got over a thousand hours into 1 and 2. I just didn’t like 3 at launch. At all.
 
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I’ve got over a thousand hours into 1 and 2. I just didn’t like 3 at launch. At all.

Oh gotcha. I started with 3. I didn't like the initial chaos portals campaign but I do love the immortal empires addition.

It's not as hectic with the demon portals constantly opening and having to race against the NPC factions to collect the shards. You build an empire and expand at your own pace.
 
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I had to quit 3 because the siege fights were just unbearable and the campaigns felt weak. All that shit better now?
Sieges were fixed a long time ago. If you slow grind a siege the defender will gain enough supplies to eventually build everything, but they can no longer rebuild shit. Once you destroy something, it's gone. Also, minor settlements are no longer mini sieges unless the settlement has the tier 3 defense building, it will be a field battle otherwise.
 
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Sieges were fixed a long time ago. If you slow grind a siege the defender will gain enough supplies to eventually build everything, but they can no longer rebuild shit. Once you destroy something, it's gone. Also, minor settlements are no longer mini sieges unless the settlement has the tier 3 defense building, it will be a field battle otherwise.
Yeah, settlements not being sieges anymore has me fucked up. I really like the change, but I used to build with sieges in mind and have had to totally change strats. I've been getting turbo fucked on Legendary, getting used to the new mechanics.

Any factions absolutely dogshit that I should completely avoid playing? Doing some light reading online makes it seem like most factions are at least "good" with a few being absolutely overpowered.
 

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Yeah, settlements not being sieges anymore has me fucked up. I really like the change, but I used to build with sieges in mind and have had to totally change strats. I've been getting turbo fucked on Legendary, getting used to the new mechanics.

Any factions absolutely dogshit that I should completely avoid playing? Doing some light reading online makes it seem like most factions are at least "good" with a few being absolutely overpowered.

Tamarrkand and Kairos seemed to never have any money to build up settlements but they are fun in battle. Tamarrkand especially with his unlocking of all the legendary heroes. But it's tough to get him going with no money and super slow recruiting. Midgame is fine. You're still poor but once your recruitment pool stacks up its fine.

I don't really like human or elf factions as much even though they make tons of money. Their lack of army variety can get boring.

I just finished Oxyotle with dinosaur spam and more money than I could ever spend by turn 30. Blessed spawnings and stegadons for skink mounts make that campaign super easy in comparison.

Doing Thrott now and he just gets random mutated he'll hellpit abominations and rat ogres gifted to his unit recruitment pool periodically. It's crazy how some factions are pure feast and others are so far behind.
 
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Yeah, settlements not being sieges anymore has me fucked up. I really like the change, but I used to build with sieges in mind and have had to totally change strats. I've been getting turbo fucked on Legendary, getting used to the new mechanics.

Any factions absolutely dogshit that I should completely avoid playing? Doing some light reading online makes it seem like most factions are at least "good" with a few being absolutely overpowered.
Yeah, none are dogshit, other than maybe Daemons of Chaos. They still haven't really made the Daemon Prince that great of a lord; if you want to play specific Chaos Daemon faction, play one of their specific lords because their mechanics are more interesting, and if you want to play a mixture, Be'lakor is better and more interesting.
 
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Yeah, none are dogshit, other than maybe Daemons of Chaos. They still haven't really made the Daemon Prince that great of a lord; if you want to play specific Chaos Daemon faction, play one of their specific lords because their mechanics are more interesting, and if you want to play a mixture, Be'lakor is better and more interesting.

I don't mind the Daemon prince that much. He's got access to most of the good units and all of the regiments of renown from the chaos roster.

His economy isn't the best but if you alternate between khorne and nurgle provinces for hero recruitment and one slaneshi and tzeentch province for global recruitment it works.

An undivided demon prince with the tail and I think wings make him a pretty good mortis engine to gank all the infantry units around him is pretty strong. And you can follow him around with a plague ridden lord and khorne bloodthirster lord for heals and duels.

I know he catches hell for being weak by himself in his personal army, but he does get access to incredibly strong lords and heroes in the rest of his armies.

Obviously not as strong as most of the other Chaos factions but I don't find him a chore to play. If you already know how to use the chaos faction he's easy to play and as a true undivided lord you can do a lot of cheesy stuff like nurgle heroes healing khorne doomstacks of bloodthirsters backed up by a lord of change for shits and giggles.

You can do that sort of stuff with archaeon and belakor but it just takes so long to unlock those top tier units with them through the souls mechanic that you will really never recruit them.
 
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Chaos Dwarves isn't free but Ogres should be included (unless it was pre-order like Chaos in WH1). Chaos Dwarves are probably the best DLC, out of the WH3 DLCs so far, but I still have hardly touched WH3 compared to WH2 and prefer the races from 1 and 2.

WH3 is now better than WH2. And with the last sucessful beta the improvements in AI from it will likely be included in the next patch at the end of this month. And the races from WHI and 2 will be automatically included in WH3 if you own both of them on Steam.
 

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I don't mind the Daemon prince that much. He's got access to most of the good units and all of the regiments of renown from the chaos roster.

His economy isn't the best but if you alternate between khorne and nurgle provinces for hero recruitment and one slaneshi and tzeentch province for global recruitment it works.

An undivided demon prince with the tail and I think wings make him a pretty good mortis engine to gank all the infantry units around him is pretty strong. And you can follow him around with a plague ridden lord and khorne bloodthirster lord for heals and duels.

I know he catches hell for being weak by himself in his personal army, but he does get access to incredibly strong lords and heroes in the rest of his armies.

Obviously not as strong as most of the other Chaos factions but I don't find him a chore to play. If you already know how to use the chaos faction he's easy to play and as a true undivided lord you can do a lot of cheesy stuff like nurgle heroes healing khorne doomstacks of bloodthirsters backed up by a lord of change for shits and giggles.

You can do that sort of stuff with archaeon and belakor but it just takes so long to unlock those top tier units with them through the souls mechanic that you will really never recruit them.
Maybe dogshit was too strong of a descriptor, I just think of all the WH3 LLs he's probably my least favorite. I had a lot more fun uniting Chaos with Be'lakor.
 

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Slaanesh headlining the next DLC (not a surprise), with Dechala as the paid lord (also not a surprise). I assume the Masque of Slaanesh will be the FLC lord.

No word on the other two races yet. Seen a lot of people guess high elves/dark elves, but those factions both have a shitload of LLs already. I would almost expect both of the other factions to be "order" factions after Omens of Destruction.

Hopefully the next DLC after that will have a Tzeentch FLC LL to balance out the Chaos gods.
 
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Masque a lord? Seems more like a legendary hero.

Bretonnia could really use an update. Beastmen too.
 
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Masque a lord? Seems more like a legendary hero.
Not necessarily disagreeing but who else is there to be the FLC Slaanesh LL? Azazel would've been perfect, but he's on WoC for some retarded reason (the retarded reason being it should've been Sigvald in that DLC but he was already in the game).
Bretonnia could really use an update. Beastmen too.
I agree on Bretonnia but what's wrong with the Beastmen? Their last update really fixed them up with great mechanics.
 

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Not necessarily disagreeing but who else is there to be the FLC Slaanesh LL? Azazel would've been perfect, but he's on WoC for some retarded reason (the retarded reason being it should've been Sigvald in that DLC but he was already in the game).

I'm not really sure. My slaanesh lore isn't the best. I'd think some sort of demon prince or keeper. Masque is just such a small insignificant model on the table top. And doesn't have any mount options or anything right? It's been a while since I played tabletop.

Beastmen are just such a chore to unlock units with. The dread mechanic sucks minotaur dicks. Only having armies full of basic infantry gets old.
 

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I'm not really sure. My slaanesh lore isn't the best. I'd think some sort of demon prince or keeper. Masque is just such a small insignificant model on the table top. And doesn't have any mount options or anything right? It's been a while since I played tabletop.
I'm not aware of a canon mount option, but she's a daemonette so you could slap her on any unit that daemonettes are already riding without causing a fuss. The issue with the daemon prince or keeper of secrets is there's already two lords of that type, N'Kari as the keeper, Azazel as the prince (although, again, he's on the wrong faction). Daemonettes are the standard Slaaneshi troop so I just kind of expect one of the LLs to be a daemonette (same as Epidemius representing plaguebearers and Skulltaker for bloodletters). Of course, this logic doesn't hold true for Tzeentch, but he's also down a LL compared to the others.

Who knows?