True Detective

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That episode didn't feel like it moved the story forward enough considering only 2 episodes left
 

Xevy

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So she was raped twice and never mentioned the other? Or she was raped by Blake and DNA guy but she somehow only remembers one and there's only DNA for one? You're stretching here and I don't see anything that backs up that theory.

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I understand genetics and allele's just fine. I'm saying that these writers put shit out there obviously. Sometimes as clues, sometimes as red herrings. Blake being the only red haired person outside VV's wife is probably not a coincidence.

How did he do it? I don't know. Dude deals in prostitutes and drugs. Maybe there was some window where he roofied her or something or she just plain cheated on Velcoro with Blake before the rape. No idea how, like I said, I'm not 100%.
 

Chukzombi

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I understand genetics and allele's just fine. I'm saying that these writers put shit out there obviously. Sometimes as clues, sometimes as red herrings. Blake being the only red haired person outside VV's wife is probably not a coincidence.

How did he do it? I don't know. Dude deals in prostitutes and drugs. Maybe there was some window where he roofied her or something or she just plain cheated on Velcoro with Blake before the rape. No idea how, like I said, I'm not 100%.
the wife is interested in the results of the paternity test. i dont think she would be too curious if her secret lover was also a ginger.
 

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I understand genetics and allele's just fine. I'm saying that these writers put shit out there obviously. Sometimes as clues, sometimes as red herrings. Blake being the only red haired person outside VV's wife is probably not a coincidence.

How did he do it? I don't know. Dude deals in prostitutes and drugs. Maybe there was some window where he roofied her or something or she just plain cheated on Velcoro with Blake before the rape. No idea how, like I said, I'm not 100%.
Or maybe you're reading way too much into it. I don't know what it is about this show but people really go all out with their theories even when the show really keeps it fairly low to the ground. I guess we'll see in two weeks.
 

a_skeleton_03

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Umm the Russian accent was to slow down the old dude wanting to have sex with her. Pretending like she was confused and couldn't speak English well so he didn't think she was tricking him.

Do you people not watch TV or movies? This is totally an overplayed trope.
 
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Royal

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No way. DNA evidence is pretty indisputable.
Not that I think the story goes in this direction, but the show is built on the foundation of corrupted government and law enforcement. Switching out a rape kit after it is in evidence to protect someone would be right in line with everything else that's going on.
 

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Welp, the last 15 mins of this episode was "fun" to watch. Although it seemed like they crammed a lot of the EUREKA! moments during the mansion scene of what and who they found; TRUE DETECTIVE WORK!
 

Chukzombi

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so will the "true detective" who was killed in the shootout ever have his motives revealed? or he just dug on filming gaycop in the shadows and investigating blue diamonds on his own for no reason?
 
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Xevy

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so will the "true tective" who was killed in the shootout ever have his motives revealed? or he just dug on filming gaycop in the shadows and investigating blue diamonds on his own for no reason?
The Lieutenant mentioned to Velcoro that Dixon had a bunch of weird shit on people when he came over to his house two episodes ago. I'm sure it will come into play. I definitely don't think the Lieutenant was involved in the blue diamond heist in 1992 as that was fucking 23 years ago and dude looks like he's maybe 45. Possible I guess. Whoever said the Mayor's kids being the two who witnessed the crime made a pretty good call, I'd say.
 

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The Lieutenant mentioned to Velcoro that Dixon had a bunch of weird shit on people when he came over to his house two episodes ago. I'm sure it will come into play. I definitely don't think the Lieutenant was involved in the blue diamond heist in 1992 as that was fucking 23 years ago and dude looks like he's maybe 45. Possible I guess. Whoever said the Mayor's kids being the two who witnessed the crime made a pretty good call, I'd say.
Thats my guess and all the pieces are there and Tony was the only character fitting the description and not shown during the moving of casper. I brought up a long time ago that it seemed kinda obvious tony said he likes playing characters and when describing the 2 children the cop said the boy loved wearing masks.

Him also not killing ray would make sense since he would have only killed casper for the murder of his parents
 
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DickTrickle

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If Tony was the killer because Casper killed his parents, why was Stan killed in the same way? Why was Tony hanging around the murder house (or, more likely, how did he know to show up there)? If the guy who shot Ray was the killer, why did he only then take the camera instead of when he killed Casper?

To me, I could see Tony being the killer if indeed he is the boy from the blue diamond robbery. In this scenario, the Casper murder is actually not connection to or driven bythe other stuff, it's just happenstance that sets things into motion. Later, Blake finds out about the house from Ray being told about it. He calls the Lieutenant and he's the one who tags Ray (and then takes the footage) -- that would fit in line with Ray's reference to the bullets being ones a cop might have. He doesn't kill him because he's a fellow cop and is just in the way (and maybe likes him somewhat). The motivation for Blake to call for help there might be to keep Frank weak/get him out of the game -- if he figures out Casper's killer then he might get his money back (though not sure why Tony might have taken it) and get back in the rail corridor. Preventing that allows Blake to remain part of the team to get the Russian in the corridor and thus benefit from that financially. The camera footage would also be good leverage to get the corridor for the Russian. Then, Lieutenant or Blake kills Stan to throw the scent off them and make Frank think there's some group moving in. Something like that. There's definitely gaps in this theory and I'm probably forgetting some stuff but I think it fits a little better than Tony being responsible.

Still wouldn't explain why the Russian got cold feet on the night of Casper's murder because in this scenario he wouldn't have known about or been a part of it (maybe it was enough that Casper didn't show up?). Like I said, not a perfect theory.
 

Chukzombi

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i am also seeing theories that the barchick with the scar is actually Irina and the dead chick was some random chola killed in order to throw off VV. it would make sense since she was in the bar and could easily overhear ray being sent to that address and told birdman to get the hard drive but if they run into ray that he should not kill him because she likes him.
 

Homsar

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I mentioned stan was probably involved with the heist earlier and tortured casper until he spoke and gave up stan. The girl could probably be a number of people on the show. Not sure why keep the diamonds for that long
 

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i am also seeing theories that the barchick with the scar is actually Irina and the dead chick was some random chola killed in order to throw off VV. it would make sense since she was in the bar and could easily overhear ray being sent to that address and told birdman to get the hard drive but if they run into ray that he should not kill him because she likes him.
Dude, from the bottom of my heart you need to stop reading all these crazy theories about all the shows you watch.

It isn't just your fault, ever since the show Lost people don't watch TV the same. People cannot help but see crazy coincidences in these shows that the writers just didn't put there.
 
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Chukzombi

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Dude, from the bottom of my heart you need to stop reading all these crazy theories about all the shows you watch.

It isn't just your fault, ever since the show Lost people don't watch TV the same. People cannot help but see crazy coincidences in these shows that the writers just didn't put there.
oh please, whether its here, youtube or reddit, theories are theories until its stated one way or the other. when you come here to postulate on whats going on you are no better than anyone else.

in short, fuck off.
 

Jozu

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I think Velcoro gave up on the situation with his son after realizing he wasnt anything like him and trying to be a "good dad" going forward would just make things harder on the kid. You can kind of tell after the speech he gave hm and told him how hell always love him, only for the little fat fuck to reply with "K" before stuffing his face.

I think he made the right call.
 

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Thats my guess and all the pieces are there and Tony was the only character fitting the description and not shown during the moving of casper. I brought up a long time ago that it seemed kinda obvious tony said he likes playing characters and when describing the 2 children the cop said the boy loved wearing masks.
I think the cop said the diamond theft perps were wearing masks, hence why they didn't get a lot of info from the kids.
 

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Man they go full bore with the fuck party and we don't even get one glimpse of mcadams ass. This show sucks
 
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DickTrickle

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If Tony was the killer because Casper killed his parents, why was Stan killed in the same way? Why was Tony hanging around the murder house (or, more likely, how did he know to show up there)? If the guy who shot Ray was the killer, why did he only then take the camera instead of when he killed Casper?

To me, I could see Tony being the killer if indeed he is the boy from the blue diamond robbery. In this scenario, the Casper murder is actually not connection to or driven bythe other stuff, it's just happenstance that sets things into motion. Later, Blake finds out about the house from Ray being told about it. He calls the Lieutenant and he's the one who tags Ray (and then takes the footage) -- that would fit in line with Ray's reference to the bullets being ones a cop might have. He doesn't kill him because he's a fellow cop and is just in the way (and maybe likes him somewhat). The motivation for Blake to call for help there might be to keep Frank weak/get him out of the game -- if he figures out Casper's killer then he might get his money back (though not sure why Tony might have taken it) and get back in the rail corridor. Preventing that allows Blake to remain part of the team to get the Russian in the corridor and thus benefit from that financially. The camera footage would also be good leverage to get the corridor for the Russian. Then, Lieutenant or Blake kills Stan to throw the scent off them and make Frank think there's some group moving in. Something like that. There's definitely gaps in this theory and I'm probably forgetting some stuff but I think it fits a little better than Tony being responsible.

Still wouldn't explain why the Russian got cold feet on the night of Casper's murder because in this scenario he wouldn't have known about or been a part of it (maybe it was enough that Casper didn't show up?). Like I said, not a perfect theory.
Realized that the killer and Ray's shooter have to be connected in some way because of the bird mask in the car in the first episode, which I had completely forgotten about. There's so many different little things out there that could support different theories (reasonable theories, mind you, not Frank's wife being a post-op rapist). It would be nice if it all truly does come together in the end in a logical and cohesive way as it would redeem the show some (but still not excuse the spotty dialogue, pacing, and general quality). However, it'll probably just end up as sloppy writing.