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iannis

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This thread is an exact duplicate of any discussion about climate change. Just sub out all references to things tranny for things climate change. Two sides thoroughly entrenched, spitting out supporting research and legions of trolls having a grand ole time doing what trolls do. Bravo. Carry on.
There's a legitimate question of two in here.
 

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This thread is an exact duplicate of any discussion about climate change. Just sub out all references to things tranny for things climate change. Two sides thoroughly entrenched, spitting out supporting research and legions of trolls having a grand ole time doing what trolls do. Bravo. Carry on.

For good reason....

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You're saying they may exist. I'm saying that's not even up for debate. THEY EXIST. Now, how do you propose to ONLY give hormones to the kids who will benefit from it? Because there's far more harm in treating someone who's not a real tranny, than not treating someone who is. What magic 8 ball do you have, that no one else has?

My son, when he was 2, had this little colorful tutu someone got him (I'm in Caly, go figure). He liked it for a hot minute, because it was colorful and had texture. And he was 2. How do you protect the kids whose parents will see that, and start treating their kid like a girl, which in turn means the kid will grow up thinking that's how he SHOULD act, because he wants his parents approval and doesn't know any better?

There's no room for error here. How do you only treat the kids who are legit trannies, while not treating the ones who aren't?
You have people in this thread who claim there are no such thing as legit trannies anyway. The waters are muddied right out of the gate by ignorance.

Anyway, I'm sure your son didn't have a persistent nagging issue with this colorful, textured tutu, did he? That for years on end, he called himself a girl? NOPE???

He just...liked it for a hot minute according to you. Is your son trans maybe? NOPE???

Hey, look there. A normal kid who's not put on puberty blockers. What a surprise! Ahhhahaha, my leftist SJW agenda, foiled again! Rats!

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So how do I protect kids who have fucked up, evil, hippie-like, virtue signaling parents? This is what you're asking me? ...um.

I think the clear answer here is making a blanket decision to remove treatments that are proven by multiple studies to be effective treatments for other children of course!

But yeah, the real answer is (to repeat myself for the hundreth time) letting the professionals handle every child on a case by case basis along side the parent/guardian. It's like you guys want me to ignore the evidence from numerous studies, feel no sympathy for the trans kids who would undoubtedly suffer until they're 18 to get help, and to somehow LARP that I know case-by-case scenarios BETTER than the parents of the kids who live with said parents every waking hour of their lives.
Avoiding the point, try again Steve.
What point is that; that you're a hateful piece of shit that says horrible things about blacks, jews and gays?

Oh, the point that you're a coward because you know that the shit you spew on here would garner really unpleasant things to you in your real life, so you only say them under the comfort of anonymity? Yeah, we know that.

Or maybe your REAL point you think I'm avoiding is you wanting to pretend that me calling you out for being a hateful piece of shit is somehow contradictory in nature when a respected poster on here who showed love to the lone person getting dogpiled on here because THEY want to avoid the "hurr durr, soy boy faggot, hurr durr" shit that they would invariably get.

Anonymous person A: Showing positive support for someone
Anonymous person B: Showing hate towards many groups of peoples

I'll let you figure out which one YOU are Mario... A or B. Call me crazy (yup, that's your MO), but I think you just may be able to accurately figure this one out for yourself! Because there is obviously NO difference in those two scenarios above... sure sure. 🤣🤣🤣

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Jasker, honestly... please stop with the PMs. I appreciate the kind support you're showing but we can chat publicly... I'm asking nicely. Thank you.
 
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You have people in this thread who claim there are no such thing as legit trannies anyway. The waters are muddied right out of the gate by ignorance.

Anyway, I'm sure your son didn't have a persistent nagging issue with this colorful, textured tutu, did he? That for years on end, he called himself a girl? NOPE???

He just...liked it for a hot minute according to you. Is your son trans maybe? NOPE???

Hey, look there. A normal kid who's not put on puberty blockers. What a surprise! Ahhhahaha, my leftist SJW agenda, foiled again! Rats!

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So how do I protect kids who have fucked up, evil, hippie-like, virtue signaling parents? This is what you're asking me? ...um.

I think the clear answer here is making a blanket decision to remove treatments that are proven by multiple studies to be effective treatments for other children of course!

But yeah, the real answer is (to repeat myself for the hundreth time) letting the professionals handle every child on a case by case basis along side the parent/guardian. It's like you guys want me to ignore the evidence from numerous studies, feel no sympathy for the trans kids who would undoubtedly suffer until they're 18 to get help, and to somehow LARP that I know case-by-case scenarios BETTER than the parents of the kids who live with said parents every waking hour of their lives.

What point is that; that you're a hateful piece of shit that says horrible things about blacks, jews and gays?

Oh, the point that you're a coward because you know that the shit you spew on here would garner really unpleasant things to you in your real life, so you only say them under the comfort of anonymity? Yeah, we know that.

Or maybe your REAL point you think I'm avoiding is you wanting to pretend that me calling you out for being a hateful piece of shit is somehow contradictory in nature when a respected poster on here who showed love to the lone person getting dogpiled on here because THEY want to avoid the "hurr durr, soy boy faggot, hurr durr" shit that they would invariably get.

Anonymous person A: Showing positive support for someone
Anonymous person B: Showing hate towards many groups of peoples

I'll let you figure out which one YOU are Mario... A or B. Call me crazy (yup, that's your MO), but I think you just may be able to accurately figure this one out for yourself! Because there is obviously NO difference in those two scenarios above... sure sure. 🤣🤣🤣

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Jasker, honestly... please stop with the PMs. I appreciate the kind support you're showing but we can chat publicly... I'm asking nicely. Thank you.

 
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What point is that; that you're a hateful piece of shit that says horrible things about blacks, jews and gays?

Oh, the point that you're a coward because you know that the shit you spew on here would garner really unpleasant things to you in your real life, so you only say them under the comfort of anonymity? Yeah, we know that.

Or maybe your REAL point you think I'm avoiding is you wanting to pretend that me calling you out for being a hateful piece of shit is somehow contradictory in nature when a respected poster on here who showed love to the lone person getting dogpiled on here because THEY want to avoid the "hurr durr, soy boy faggot, hurr durr" shit that they would invariably get.

Anonymous person A: Showing positive support for someone
Anonymous person B: Showing hate towards many groups of peoples

I'll let you figure out which one YOU are Mario... A or B. Call me crazy (yup, that's your MO), but I think you just may be able to accurately figure this one out for yourself! Because there is obviously NO difference in those two scenarios above... sure sure. 🤣🤣🤣
All of this is irrelevant to the point. Give it another shot Steve.
 
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Why should I stop with the PMs Vanessa Vanessa ?

Too crazy for you to ask a friend if she’s alright?

Let me remind you:

You’ve been arguing with low life’s that call you a monster for what is now 131 pages. This thread started three years ago and you're still in it.

...and you post gigantic write ups, likely taking what 15-30 mins to write if not longer.

131 pages and three years defending yourself against literal zombie hordes with not a single friend in sight.

I don’t think it’s hit you but...You’re just as crazy as me.
 
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I think the clear answer here is making a blanket decision to remove treatments that are proven by multiple studies to be effective treatments for other children of course!

Something of note, is that since your tirade about facts and feelings with science, I've often wondered why you've never mentioned control groups.

Affirmation therapy is the equivalent to an aspect of sun worship.

If you don't know what I mean by that, it's the occult worship of the sun, by summoning the sun to rise every morning. The practitioner will get up before sunrise and perform a ritual to summon the sun. The ritual ALWAYS works, because the sun always rises. This means the practitioner assumes that the ritual is real. Now, what happens when the practitioner fails to get up on time, or isn't in a place they can perform the ritual, or just decides to not do the ritual? The sun still rises. That leaves the practitioner with two choices. Admit that the sun rises without their ritual, or that someone else must have done the ritual that day and therefore that's why the sun rose. Because this is an affirmation, and not a rejection, that practitioner will ALWAYS believe that someone else did the ritual that day -- reaffirming that the ritual is what causes the sun to rise. I shouldn't need to spell out what happens when the practitioner rejects the ritual.

The video that I linked that featured some of the works of Dr. Kenneth Zucker, should be enough for you to go back to the previous "studies" you've looked at and see if they do indeed run control groups, or are they just affirmation studies -- echo chambers -- to "prove" themselves right. Just because someone says they are a scientist, and belong to a science-y sounding organisation does not mean they are scientists. This is the reason we have consensus, and peer-review... and do not mistake peer-review for what amounts to a circle jerk of terrible "scientific" studies that dont' show actual rigor.
 
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Dustowned perhaps. The Big W claims another victim
Fucking Searyx

But seriously, is it just me or are there just fewer lolcows to 'shoop anymore?


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Jesus Jasker, get help.

Also, Vanessa, in case you haven't noticed, it's not some singular-minded mob against you. There are actually several different viewpoints represented here. I have no issue with Trans people (other than the fucking wierdos), and generally appreciate your take on "the tranny" issue as a whole, as it's very similar to mine. But in this case, I just 100% disagree with you.

I say "we have bad activist docs and shitty parents, wut do?" and you respond with "trust the activist docs and shitty parents!" Not good enough. Esp not when I'm looking at studies linked in the footnotes of Gender dysphoria in children - Wikipedia and they are talking about 80-95% rates of trans-acting kids not actually being trans when they get older.
 
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This isn't some idle hobby for Vanessa. Yes, she's been talking about it for years. The reason for that is because it is important in his life.

Change happens slowly. I'm not talking about social change, I'd bore myself repeating my arguments about that and there's no need to anyway, I'm talking about personal change.

It's a tricky intellectual issue that deals a variety of distinct complex intellectual structures. For Vanessa there is also an emotional component which may very well be inextricable and equally complicated.

arguing is what hodj LIVES for. Have you even met hodj? And argument is something that helps Vanessa directly.

So let 'em fight. Work is being done, even if it doesn't look like it to us.am

In a sense, this actually IS a safespace. Just not the grotesque parody that sjws Deem a safe space. There's a reason nessa a posts here and it's not everquest.
 
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This isn't some idle hobby for Vanessa. Yes, she's been talking about it for years. The reason for that is because it is important in his life.

Change happens slowly. I'm not talking about social change, I'd bore myself repeating my arguments about that and there's no need to anyway, I'm talking about personal change.

It's a tricky intellectual issue that deals a variety of distinct complex intellectual structures. For Vanessa there is also an emotional component which may very well be inextricable and equally complicated.

arguing is what hodj LIVES for. Have you even met hodj? And argument is something that helps Vanessa directly.

So let 'em fight. Work is being done, even if it doesn't look like it to us.am

In a sense, this actually IS a safespace. Just not the grotesque parody that sjws Deem a safe space. There's a reason nessa a posts here and it's not everquest.


It wouldn't be so bad if Hodj actually added anything of value to the conversation, but every post of his in here is variations of "trans r gay". It makes lurking the thread annoying.

Compare that to people like oneofone, khorum or boozecube who actually have decent points and are actually discussing their stance.

I get that Hodj is just the forum clown but I don't understand how people tolerate someone consistently playing a faux retard, especially for however long he's been here.
 
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Jesus Jasker, get help.

Also, Vanessa, in case you haven't noticed, it's not some singular-minded mob against you. There are actually several different viewpoints represented here. I have no issue with Trans people (other than the fucking wierdos), and generally appreciate your take on "the tranny" issue as a whole, as it's very similar to mine. But in this case, I just 100% disagree with you.

I say "we have bad activist docs and shitty parents, wut do?" and you respond with "trust the activist docs and shitty parents!" Not good enough. Esp not when I'm looking at studies linked in the footnotes of Gender dysphoria in children - Wikipedia and they are talking about 80-95% rates of trans-acting kids not actually being trans when they get older.
There is no such thing as "true trans" as if it has any significance. It's like sayin "you are not a true star wars fan" or some shit like that. How can you even quantify that "idea?" It is fucking insane.....

I google "how do I know if I am a trans" and first thing that comes up is "there is no right way of knowing you are trans....it is up to people you speak to."

I am guessing they have to speak with doctors or specialist....

And that's the point.....there is no "right" way....it is all subjective....it is as some puts it .."spectrum"

This is fucking lunacy......it is actually a byproduct of moral relativism
 
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It wouldn't be so bad if Hodj actually added anything of value to the conversation, but every post of his in here is variations of "trans r gay". It makes lurking the thread annoying.

Compare that to people like oneofone, khorum or boozecube who actually have decent points and are actually discussing their stance.

I get that Hodj is just the forum clown but I don't understand how people tolerate someone consistently playing a faux retard, especially for however long he's been here.

No one cares what the forum ankle biter thinks.

Also: Says I contribute nothing to the conversation.
I predicted the course of the thread three years in advance.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
 

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It wouldn't be so bad if Hodj actually added anything of value to the conversation, but every post of his in here is variations of "trans r gay". It makes lurking the thread annoying.

Compare that to people like oneofone, khorum or boozecube who actually have decent points and are actually discussing their stance.

I get that Hodj is just the forum clown but I don't understand how people tolerate someone consistently playing a faux retard, especially for however long he's been here.
LEAVE HODJ ALONE. HES NEVER HURT ANYBODY
 
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Vanessa

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You have people in this thread who claim there are no such thing as legit trannies anyway. The waters are muddied right out of the gate by ignorance.
A dozen posts later...
There is no such thing as "true trans" as if it has any significance.

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But seriously, is it just me or are there just fewer lolcows to 'shoop anymore?
Less people willing to show their face. We have a slew of good characters here too; people are just afraid of either doxxing or.... getting photoshopped LoL (psst, maybe most people just know they're simply old, fat and ugly).

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Oh, and Sabbat; videos are great for people who have time and want to absorb the info singularly but just like what happened with Himeo Himeo trying to prove his unique "points", I think people are less inclined to click a vid and watch it on a forum if they're looking for that one soundbite quote or damning phrase / evidence that makes a good case for their position. Agree or disagree?

All I'm saying is: on THIS platform here (a public message board), I'd wager actual quotes from blogs, papers, or articles make stronger (at the VERY least, accessible to quote) cases to debate with and exchange ideas / thoughts. I'm willing to engage but posting vid after vid on the topic can get lost in the shuffle, y'know? Also, you can't really quote and bounce a counter-idea off of a video... you can type out the quote IN the video and offer a time-stamp but that's... let's be honest... tedium incarnate.
 
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