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How do they differentiate 80% vs 20% ? I have stated before that because I'm not an endo nor a psychologist that I don't know their exact methods, but to quote this again for like the billionth time (first time for you Cuckernaut, no worries):
"In the examined group, all of 70 eligible candidates showed improved mental health and general functioning. Authors concluded that the treatment was fully reversible, which was one of its main advantages."
That's a 100% success rate. So whatever they're doing to weed out the potentially mildly-dysphoric vs. the highly-dysphoric... it's working.
Regardless of that fact, this next part shatters everything that the ignorants have argued and beautifully melds both facts (treatment works and is successful whilst acknowledging the 80/20 ratio). From this paper:
"Puberty suppression is only started after the adolescent actually enters the first stages of puberty (Tanner stages 2–3), because although in most prepubertal children GD will desist, onset of puberty serves as a critical diagnostic stage, because the likelihood that GD will persist into adulthood is much higher in adolescence than in the case of childhood GD.15,16 "
Also, from this research paper:
"Of adolescents, 41.0% started PS, whereas only 1.9% of these adolescents stopped PS and did not start HT (Table 1). 32.2% of adolescents started directly with HT, because they were too old (≥18 years) to start with PS after the diagnostic phase."
They refused treatment of 59% of adolescents that came to their clinic. Why? Because they didn't fit the criteria of treatment. You strawman-building cockheads ignorantly assume that 100% of adolescents are getting put on blockers and hormones and that's JUST NOT TRUE. My God the ignorance is just jaw-dropping in this thread.
Also, btw, to add from here:
"Inadequate management of children with persistent gender dysphoria can lead to isolation, feeling of self-hatred, and suicidal ideas and attempts. Also, “passing through the wrong puberty” can have serious consequences for these individuals."
^ I care about these kids ^ Bigots like Zyyz and Booze do not. They would literally rather they kill themselves I believe.
Brief history of how this all came to be:
The Amsterdam VU university medical center treats 98% of the Dutch transsexuals. About 20 years ago, when a few adolescents with an overwhelming and clear-cut GID came to the attention of clinicians [14], the decision was taken to start the sex reassignment (SR) procedure before adulthood. Despite many years of psychotherapy, gender dysphoria had not abated in these youngsters. Many of the problems they were struggling with seemed to be the consequence rather than the cause of their GID. They were very lucid about their situation, had no psychopathology that would obtrude their self-assessment, and were able to cope with the process of transitioning to the other sex. There was also strong parental support for the treatment decision. This convinced us to make a change in policy and we decided to treat subjects younger than 18 years hormonally. Males were treated with anti-androgens first and with estrogens a few months later provided they appeared to do well; females were treated first with progesterone to stop menstrual bleeding and androgens later [15]. The minimum age set then for this treatment was 16 years. Although, in the Netherlands, adolescents are from the age of 16 years on legally competent to make decisions on their medical treatment, parents were required to endorse the request for treatment, which always was the case. Parents had been involved in the earlier diagnostic process and were of the conviction that hormonal and subsequent surgical treatment was the only acceptable solution to alleviate the suffering of their child.
P.S. Get fucking wrecked by 52 studies
...and on that note, it's bedtime for everyone's favorite ignorance-slaying tranny.
Name calling and comments aside, because I appreciate the fact that you have researched this thoroughly vanessa, I have to agree with Punko on this in terms of the impacts of delays. Finally I just have a strong disagreement with manipulating children’s bodies in any way prior to them becoming of age to be consenting adults which in this country is 18. Kind of like getting a tattoo. I view this similarly as a manipulation of the body.
That said, i strongly agree with a very rigorous mental health and counseling approach throughout though and would support that in every way shape and form, to help align families and their social environment.
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