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Glad we figured out everyone on this board is insane, besides you.

Our shining beacon of puberty blocking.

No dude, there's still much potential. Just need to let it breathe off for a bit and remain open to invite the inevitable.

Apparently true, just when I thought he had hit max retard, in he comes with another wall of text.
 
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Back in the 90s there was this cute, innocuous little movie called Multiplicity with Michael Keaton... some of you may have seen it. He feels the stresses of modern day work / family / private life all jumbled together and wishes he could have more time to do it all so he clones himself and his clones start doing his different life tasks which shape their personalities as the movie goes on. Kinda a take on how our environments shape our psyche. Though it was made a while ago, I appreciate that movie more and more as I get older LoL... God I wish I could just have more TIME.

So believe it or not, FoH is NOT my #1 priority LoL. As much as I do love arguing with you goofballs and try to squeeze as much time as possible here, I only have so much time, and as some of you nerds are patently aware, Prime day is upon us.. but lo ! This year is now a TWO DAY Prime! Good for consumers... bad for us poor mistreated slaves (according to the dumbshits at TYT) of Jeff Beelzebezos Bezos. We have been working hard gearing up for this, so for us Prime Day is like April for CPAs. With my posting style (I carve mountains in this thread; deal with it, plebs), I've just been trying to find a solid gap in time to respond to all the hijinx in here. I've been off (more or less) for the past 3 days so here's some walls o text to trigger Hodj.

Let's start with this gem I had to steal from the GG/SJW thread:

Hey ZyyzYzzy ZyyzYzzy or Jed, Cletus, Billyjo whatever your real name is. This is how you hard-right inbred internet losers push yourselves to the point where you end up shooting up a synagogue or a queer nightclub.

But chances are you're just another spineless flounder virtue signaling about trans-shit on the interbutts and lack the proverbial balls to actually do anything about what rustles you so much.

My real name is Vanessa. I think you meant to say whatever my birth name was. I like how a dude whose forum name sounds like a shitty Marvel villain is making a point to talking about real names while hiding behind his made up name/identity whilst I am using my real name/identity. Just shows how utterly sad and clown-worldish this dude really is... but hey he's a mod, must mean something around here. LoL I'm so glad uggo-muffins like Zyyz and his kind are confined to their keyboard warrior identities instead of out there in the real world spewing their hateful shit on society. What a pussy.


I think this is the meat and potatoes of what you're posting... where do I really, truly stand on this shit. Well look, I was definitely straw-manned; horribly. I think, in the retards defense, when people said...

"Since 80% will outgrow it and 20% won't, isn't it best to not do anything to anyone?" to which I responded: "Well no, because I cannot just say "fuck the 20% they'll have to deal with their misery by not getting treatment for their issues by taking away the meds altogether"

...that it lead to retards straw-manning those kind of statements to mean: "Vanessa wants to put ALL kids (100%) on puberty blockers" which I NEVER fucking said and literally almost 100 pages later these same retards are saying I said this.

So as far as the meat and potatoes of my stance of where I stand on this, I already answered it as CLEAR as possible when Wombat asked me, which is: I'm for highly-dysphoric adolescents who manifest strong symptoms of gender dysphoria getting treatment via transition if that's what the doctors and parents (basically, the ONLY people who need be concerned) feel is best for the teen. If puberty blockers and hormones *could* be avoided, then they should be.... which goes back to what I've been saying since the beginning: "I want the right treatment going to the right patients". When multiple research papers have shown that young transitioners get on MUCH better in life via transition than older transitioners (and this is only common sense... I didn't need a fucking research paper to back up that notion [but it does regardless... checkmate atheists]), I'd be pretty ear-bleeding stupid to then say "yeah, we need to just remove all puberty blockers and hormones for people until 21". I'm not taking the "Matt, Matt, Matt" Tom Cruise route of wanting to eliminate drug use for mentally ill people just because he thinks depression can be cured by praying to Xenu or whatever. If certain drugs are shown to help people, LET THEM HAVE IT... it HELPS them.

The proof that I have NOT altered my stance whatsoever on this topic is below, and you all can spew bullshit for as LONG as you want to, that's fine, but nothing I have ever said in this thread has been proven factually incorrect. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. ...because I know my trans shit (yes, better than you) :p I have challenged numerous people to go back and find quotes of anything I said that contradicts anything I have said now or contradicts anything I have said that research papers have stated and here's the score: Vanessa: Win | Others: 0

Furthermore, the irony is that the morons who were virtue-signaling "You're messing with other people's kids!" are the ones who would be putting THEIR nose in how other people manage THEIR kids if their goal was wanting to eliminate effective treatments for other people's kids. Think about it. Like I said, they're acting like a parade of fucking SJWs and don't even realize it. I will concede that if YOUR argument is that Gender Dysphoria is NOT a real thing, then yes, puberty blockers for adolescents is child abuse. Fortunately, you're just retarded... but that's what's beautiful about America: You're free to be a clueless asshole and ignorant about shit as much as you'd like and no one is going to throw you in the slammer for that. God bless free speech :) (oh and btw, I don't mean YOU Erro <3, just 'you' in the general sense in this paragraph)


In my opinion, this is where this ENTIRE thing started. Sabbat mentioned puberty blockers, Tanoomba (PunieHop) riffed with him, and I chimed in describing why puberty blockers were even a thing. My SECOND POST was this on the topic:

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It's all there in its unedited glory. I admitted then that accurately determining who are true trannies (the 20%... though at the time I didn't know the literal numbers via the data) versus the merely gender incongruent (the 80%) due to social factors like I mentioned then who will outgrow it and just become gays and lesbos is a concern [i.e. the devil is in the details of accurately determining]. Even back then I separated true transkids (i.e. persistent gender dysphoric kids) from the kids that had similar issues but were due to other reasons... i.e. kids that would outgrow it or at least not have gender dysphoria be the primary cause of their issues.

...and yet somehow between then and now you had knuckledraggers like Phazael and Boozecube who would strawman the ever-loving shit out of my posts and it somehow became the standard that I was forcing kids to be on puberty blockers, experimenting on them, pumping kids full of hormones etc etc. Very honk honk~


Hear hear. The problem is that, if you actually go and look at the kinds of posts that trannies make in their inner circle, you'll see nothing but hugboxing, support, and "oh you're so beautiful" when they're actually physical disasters. Then people get caught up in their echo chambers and BOOM... the real world hits them in the fucking face and they kill themselves because they were lied to by their own kind. The trans community is fucked in many ways, yes, but this is just one sad aspect of it.


Are you legitimately retarded? I mean I've been somewhat playing ball with you but at this point I ask myself... are you genuinely some retard behind a keyboard? WHERE did I ever say, insinuate, or hint at wanting Zyyz to be silenced, banned, or removed? You're so unintelligent it is embarrassing, and a complete hypocrite to boot... look here:


...and from your Profile post:
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You're a completely illogical potato Punko... it's pathetic.


That's Mario's assessment too... that both myself and Blaire White are just poser trannies because we still have our twig and berries and that the mark of true trannies are the ones who are lopping it off. I for one, find that assessment amazing and I welcome your clown-world action in lumping me in with the transtrenders. Thank you Boozecube... that actually fits quite well considering the source. Honk Honk!


After all this time and all these pages, I'm unsure why you'd think this thread would be "over" ? Heh... it's coming up on 3 yrs now in November.

I think what you and others want is this black and white hard line about what should/should not happen in regards to blockers and I think that this issue is much more complex than people are either realizing, caring to realize, understand or what have you. My stance on transgenders and blockers is similar to abortion... it's not an ALL OR NOTHING radical stance to it... it's a complex social issue so my stance is that I take a little bit from the left and a little bit from the right. You want a simple yes or no from me about an issue that is far from simple.


That specific vid probably isn't a repost itself but Michelle Cretella has definitely been posted here before. I generally agree with MOST of what she talks about but she goes a bit too far off the ideological deep end of what transgenderism is and isn't. For example, she thinks transgenderism exists SOLELY in the mind and yet there's evidence that it is part biological, part social.


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Fucking 🤡🌎 atheist SJWs, I swear...


Contrapoints is stupid talented... like, I get so jealous of her skills with video creating, editing, and narrative... she's really amazing. With that said, she's a leftist that got demolished by Blaire White during their "debate", but that was (in Contra's defense) back when she identified as a queer guy. I'd love to see them two have a current debate given Contra's evolution. Funny how Contra has now become more like Blaire White than she probably ever thought she'd be, yet Blaire is still Blaire. Kinda shows who was right all along.

Alright folks, all caught up. Have a great weekend :emoji_hearts:

p.s. Look at this poor young adult that was harmed by puberty blockers... isn't it just awful???

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p.p.s. I'm not trying to pad my post counts so this is why you get my patented "walls-o-text" :)

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Whats sad is that a Michael Keaton sci fi comedy from the 90s is probably more credible than other sources you have listed and you probably actually viewed the entire source this time

As for your MS Paint commentary, yeah no shit I care about kids that are not mine. Its called empathy you fucking psychopath.
 
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This is my last day of freedom before a 6-day, 10 hour marathon of work work work due to Prime. Once Prime is done I can kick off my shoes and start to get in the groove of getting creative, doing some personal work, uploading some YouTube vids again and making a mockery of myself :p

Glad we figured out everyone on this board is insane, besides you.
I didn't call you 10 jackasses insane... I called you SJW virtue-signaling clown-world morons. Get your story factually correct you illogical dipshit.

Furthermore, I isolated you 10 jackasses and not the forum in that pic for a reason. I LOVE this board. I LOVE FoH. I LOVE the freedom that this forum grants. I respect its rules. I acknowledge that my presence on this forum is a gift and not a right, and I appreciate everyone from the top (LLR) to the bottom (You, Punko) that contribute to make this forum the best that it is. So did I put in that picture [EVERYONE] on this board or [FOH] like you said I did? Nope, I put YOU 10 jackasses on there. Because you 10 ARE jackasses, and you, Punko, are proving this to be true by YET AGAIN twisting my words to suit your narrative like the drool pool that you are.

Every post you make is erecting a strawman and then punching the strawman, instead of basing your issues about me on what I'm actually saying. Gotta love it.

...and you'll keep making statements that are moronic and factually inconsistent and I'll keep shining a spotlight on them. I'm good with this. Are you?

I know for a fact that I can put at least one child into this room.

'His' 3rd-Wave hyper-feminist mother put him there.

His normie father was pressed out of his life for the crime of telling him to 'stand as he pees'.

Just like the Nazis.
Expose this to the world and let judgment happen then Gerbil. If the root of this kids issues stemmed from the MOTHER and not the child, then the mother needs to be cuffed, exposed, and expunged from society quite frankly. I stand with you all on this matter if this is how the cookie crumbles with this particular case and any other similar case. Now the question is WHERE did all of this gender incongruence start Gerbil: From the mother or the child?

If it stems from the mother, will the PUBERTY BLOCKERS help or harm the child? I think we'd both agree that it would harm the child if the child wasn't gender dysphoric and was merely a pawn in this sick mother's world.

If it stems from the child, will the PUBERTY BLOCKERS help or harm the child? Be rational about this now Gerbil.

Because if it's from the child, then the mother is merely a caring mother that is taking the child to professionals to figure out what can be done to ease her child's unease and torment, and the mother is NOT a bad parent for supporting her child's mental illness... the mother is just getting her child who she loves the proper care to alleviate her child's issues. <---THIS is what I support. THIS is the heart of what I'm concerned about and why I don't want to see puberty blockers taken away from medical use.

The nature of this issue is that you still (correct me if I'm wrong homie) believe that Gender Dysphoria is a made-up term, yes? If that's the case, then yeah, I see your point and will say that on THAT basis... my "If" scenarios are irrelevant: it's child abuse no matter how you slice it with that world-view. That world-view, however, is not rational... Gender Dysphoria is a very real mental illness my friend.

Whats sad is that a Michael Keaton sci fi comedy from the 90s is probably more credible than other sources you have listed and you probably actually viewed the entire source this time
According to Phazael here a Michael Keaton movie is "probably" more scientifically credible than numerous papers by collegiate level researchers and doctors. When your argument has been ground into dust repeatedly by a tranny of all people and you're left standing there looking silly with your SJW-esque "feels", I guess the only recourse is to make posts like this (note a lack of links refuting anything I'm saying from the naysayers~) saying that sci-fi movies have more validity than these links that I have provided. How very rational of you Phaz!

I told you once, I told you twice, you're a retard Phazael, now start being nice.

As for your MS Paint commentary, yeah no shit I care about kids that are not mine. Its called empathy you fucking psychopath.
Here's where the cognitive dissonance is going to crush your skull Phazael:

But if you had your way and you take away the meds that have been demonstrated IN THE REAL WORLD and via RESEARCH PAPERS to HELP Gender Dysphoric kids unease with their gender identity, then YOU are limiting their access to proper treatment for them based on:

YOUR FEELS! Ahahahaha!

Because, you literally just said above that my sources I have listed are about as credible as the movie Multiplicity. So where are YOUR sources indicating that what I'm saying is false? Link away... start putting up the far right-wing links demonizing trans shit in society and join the cult of saying that THAT source is credible but learned scientists with doctorates, repute, and credentials that I'm linking are the shills, kooks, and frauds. Congrats - you've just radicalized YOURSELF into the same camp as conspiracy theorists like Lumie when you yourself touted yourself to be one of the rationals, right Phazael? Or are you doing what your fellow idiot Zyyz is doing and cherry picking from MY links the things that give credence to YOUR world-view in the papers (i.e. the 80/20 conundrum) but the things in the EXACT same papers that give credence to MY argument are somehow "fake news and not credible? (i.e. puberty blockers are safe and effective)?

Even if you can untwist your cognitive dissonance to then admit, "Okay Vanessa, your links, citations, and papers are legit, but we still feel blockers should be taken away because the 80/20 conundrum is factually correct" then you ram face-first into what YOU YOURSELF said:

"It's called empathy you fucking psychopath"

...to then seem to have NO EMPATHY for the hundreds if not thousands of adolescents who would be DENIED access to treatment that has shown to be effective in alleviating their mental issues. Empathy indeed...

If you actually read what I posted instead of just acting like the frothing SJW that you are, you'd see that in the real world, they don't just willy-nilly put 100% of these gender incongruent adolescents on puberty blockers. This virtue-signaling of "omg children are being harmed" is just your retarded internet conspiracy theory shit. The professionals are doing their jobs at getting the right kids the right treatments. You don't like it? Start picketing; call your local congressman; be public about it so that people can see your crack-pot fat ass up close and personal.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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Exactly LoL :p

C'mon out, it'll be fun. I'm sure Antifa will be there looking staunch and commy white as ever! I legit hope it doesn't get cancelled. If it hasn't dawned on some of you yet, The Straight Pride Parade is not about gay / straight etc... it's about right vs. left. It's all tied together. The fact that they got Milo to be the Grand Marshall of the parade should tell you what it's all about... it's shining a spotlight on the hypocrisy of it all. Check out this video:



Riddle me this... riddle me that... what kind of group on this earth could stoop so low as to make even the fucking Westboro Baptist Church look like the rational, peaceful, sane ones for a change? Heh... Correct:

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I give you: The Left

I support my fellow transgender individuals who were born with Gender Dysphoria, yep. I support the rights for gays and lesbos too, absolutely. I support people's rights as individuals, but I openly admonish the LGBT community as a whole and what they do as a group. There is a difference, and if you cannot see it, then your eyes open aren't wide enough.
 
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The argument made here a billion times assumes GD is a real thing. No one making the argument that puberty blockers are bad is denying GD. Puberty blockers are bad because trannys own research showed that 80% of kids who are thought to be suffering from GD get over it during puberty and therefore would be administered puberty blockers unnecessarily, which is a bad thing.

Vanessa is a dumb faggot. Change my mind.
 
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I do empathize with Vanessa and others who have GD. It's a tough life, I get it. She's done a lot better at dealing with this than most have I would argue. That said, my wife is in ATL on business with a person who is now a M to F to M transexual. The complexity to make that call is a complex one and I have serious doubts a kid honestly can tell the difference between going through a phase and making a life-changing commitment.

At the end of the day, it sucks for anyone involved because it is a biologically (and psychologically) fringe condition, but parents shouldn't be making that call for their kids. Figure it out when you are grown. It may not be perfect 100% of the time, but at least it is your decision then.
 
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The argument made here a billion times assumes GD is a real thing. No one making the argument that puberty blockers are bad is denying GD. Puberty blockers are bad because trannys own research showed that 80% of kids who are thought to be suffering from GD get over it during puberty and therefore would be administered puberty blockers unnecessarily, which is a bad thing.

Vanessa is a dumb faggot. Change my mind.
If you actually read what I posted instead of just acting like the frothing SJW that you are, you'd see that in the real world, they don't just willy-nilly put 100% of these gender incongruent adolescents on puberty blockers.
Yet again, your fear is that they are putting ALL kids who show gender incongruence on blockers and I've posted the evidence that THIS IS NOT HAPPENING and the evidence shows that ALL kids put on blockers are actually doing better for themselves... what does that tell you? That the docs and teams of people working with the adolescents are prescribing the right treatments to the right patients.

If you deny this fact, then you are doing exactly what I mentioned above:

Or are you doing what your fellow idiot Zyyz is doing and cherry picking from MY links the things that give credence to YOUR world-view in the papers (i.e. the 80/20 conundrum) but the things in the EXACT same papers that give credence to MY argument are somehow "fake news and not credible? (i.e. puberty blockers are safe and effective)?

You've lost the debate you fucking fool. Deal with it. Go back to trashing Christians and cheating on your women. Y'all have NO argument in this tranny shit anymore except to dogpile me with ad hominems (which I'm cool with) and if you want to keep looking retarded without providing scientific evidence to the contrary, then be my guest.
 
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Yet again, your fear is that they are putting ALL kids who show gender incongruence on blockers and I've posted the evidence that THIS IS NOT HAPPENING and the evidence shows that ALL kids put on blockers are actually doing better for themselves... what does that tell you? That the docs and teams of people working with the adolescents are prescribing the right treatments to the right patients.

If you deny this fact, then you are doing exactly what I mentioned above:



You've lost the debate you fucking fool. Deal with it. Go back to trashing Christians and cheating on your women. Y'all have NO argument in this tranny shit anymore except to dogpile me with ad hominems (which I'm cool with) and if you want to keep looking retarded without providing scientific evidence to the contrary, then be my guest.
There is nothing you can say and do to change the fact that your own research shows that if kids who are thought to have GD are given puberty blockers, 80% of these kids would have their puberty delayed unnecessarily. There is no need for evidence to the contrary when the evidence you provided is sufficient to shit on your faggot self. :emoji_fork_knife_plate::emoji_poop::emoji_coffin::emoji_gay_pride_flag:.
 
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No dog in this fight, but isn't taking puberty blockers kinda bad cause you end up with a micro-penis? Allegedly if your junk is too small they can't make it into a vagina. Conversely if you want to keep your dick it will be miniscule. :(

Or maybe someone already mentioned this in the 150 pages I missed ...

 
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Speaking of Jazz … the real winners are her brothers. Guaranteed these dudes swimming in pussy on an international scene after their sister got a TLC show. o_O

 

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I do empathize with Vanessa and others who have GD. It's a tough life, I get it. She's done a lot better at dealing with this than most have I would argue. That said, my wife is in ATL on business with a person who is now a M to F to M transexual. The complexity to make that call is a complex one and I have serious doubts a kid honestly can tell the difference between going through a phase and making a life-changing commitment.

At the end of the day, it sucks for anyone involved because it is a biologically (and psychologically) fringe condition, but parents shouldn't be making that call for their kids. Figure it out when you are grown. It may not be perfect 100% of the time, but at least it is your decision then.
In a perfect world, this mental illness wouldn't exist. It sucks. I mean, it really sucks ass. I don't blame God for having this, it's just who I am and how I was born.

That said, this is reality and a reality for others. Were I sitting on the Iron Throne so to speak and it was literally MY CALL as to what to do with this shit and especially what to do with children suffering through this, I'd say:

"Try to alleviate any discomfort / suffering someone may have via counseling, via love, via prayer, via *any* avenue possible besides radically altering your body, altering your social life and altering your identity, but if nothing else works and you're still miserable and this unhappiness has been consistent, spanning years, has been some of your earliest behaviors and memories as a child and no other treatments are working to quell this, then yes, you're a legit tranny and transition will be effective at alleviating your dysphoria."

Don't listen to these radical kooks who want to shit on me just because the facts don't align with their narrow and hateful worldview Scoresby... I'm not trying to harm kids by any means. I'm merely stating that removing meds that have been researched and proven effective at helping people shouldn't be removed just due to ignorance and feels.

Research is already showing biological factors for Gender Dysphoria too (as I predicted) and will continue to do so... just watch. We're making progress with this issue.

There is nothing you can say and do to change the fact that your own research shows that if kids who are thought to have GD are given puberty blockers, 80% of these kids would have their puberty delayed unnecessarily. There is no need for evidence to the contrary when the evidence you provided is sufficient to shit on your faggot self. :emoji_fork_knife_plate::emoji_poop::emoji_coffin::emoji_gay_pride_flag:.
Correct, evidence has shown that if you had 100 kids that showed gender incongruence, on average 20 of them would continue to have gender incongruence through adulthood and 80 of them would merely become gay and lesbian teens. I NEVER denied this you mental midget. Ever. You may want to strawman me into thinking I have denied that as factual, but I never have. I literally have said this is factually accurate. Know what else is factually accurate and from that same paper? This:

De Vries et al. were the first to introduce the concept and research on the use of puberty blockers for treatment of transgender youth. The main idea behind the suppression of endogenous puberty was to decrease distress by preventing the development of “noncongruent” secondary sexual characteristics. This would give young individuals more time to get accustomed to their situation and to better explore their gender. In the examined group, all of 70 eligible candidates showed improved mental health and general functioning.
How does your clown world ass rectify this fact wormie? I'd love to hear this. Or is that fact from the paper "the one fact that isn't akshually troo!!!!" Or what? Let's hear it.

Do you think a merely gay person being put on puberty blockers and transitioning would yield positive results down the road? LoL no... a gay dude would HATE to be a woman... their gender identity is that of a man.

No, it means that the docs are doing their fucking jobs and getting the right treatment to the right people.

See wormie, you and Zyyz and Punko and everyone else I put in that little room are SJW morons because you're providing nothing but ad hominems, strawmans and virtue-signaling. Just as a blue-haired radical SJW would do on twitter... just go be all talk and feels and no evidence.

You want to take away the meds that help a very very small group of kids with real mental illness. But virtue-signal that it is "harming" 80% of these other "normal" kids. If 70 kids are doing perfectly fine in that study, then, on average, 280 "normal kids" were fucked up by these treatments (80%) and are now mutilated and harmed by your logic. That's a LOT of kids out there who should be filling up my room of children harmed by puberty blockers, right wormie?

..................................and yet....................................................

Where are they? Where is the massive amount of kids pouring into the streets from these evil doctors who are harming kids because they're putting all these kids who aren't really trans on meds and turning them into trannies?

Or maybe, as I've said countless times like a broken record, the docs are doing their fucking jobs and getting the right treatment to the right people... as it's happening in the real world.

As I said... you're an illogical SJW and you don't even realize it. ...oh and it took a tranny to get you to start seeing that. Honk honk!
 
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Vanessa's last 4 posts contain more words than my entire posting history on FOH, going back to noows.
 
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Puberty took something like 300 million years to develop in the evolution of mammals.

'Blocking' it only took about 50 years of chemistry.

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The entire Transgender movement is playing with a force that is stronger than they can possibly imagine. And yes, I do include the ones who believe in God. Evolution is a force of nature that is so strong that God only wishes he had it in his deck.

You talk about hormones to such a depth that it makes me weep to know that you are almost completely unaware of the biological importance of gametes. You have not done your diligence. You have not dared to know anything.

Nor will you. You inject yourself with hormones in the hope that you can change stone into water and you believe that a magic sky wizard who loves you can cast a spell that will reverse all of your life decisions and make everything okay.
 

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By the way, that 12 year old WANTED to have sex with me. They initiated it, I had nothing to do with it. It was up to them, not me.

Trust me.

Also, I do not have children of my own. This makes me the best possible judge of the behavior of children.
 
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