Vanessa's Tranny AMA Blog Thread

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Vanessa said:

Hey Fogel sorry for pulling you into my thread but I saw this in the GG/SJW thread and I wanted to reply to this here instead of there. I've discussed this in a round-about-way before.

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Vanessa said:

Well Jazz is a minor celebrity at this point yeah. I saw her guest spot on the "What Would You Do?" segment recently.



Does Jazz Jennings appear to be harmed by puberty blockers to you? Because all I see is a happy, vibrant person.

In that video, when Jazz's mom was asked by the reporter, "You've had to put up with a lot of withering criticism. What, after all these years, do you say to people that still have those doubts?" her reply was "I'd rather have a living daughter than a dead son".

You say, "They are not making a choice to receive treatment". Well, yeah, they're not signing all the LEGAL paperwork and HIPAA forms and such... that's what parents do for any treatment their child gets, but the child certainly has a say through this process about what they feel, think and are.


Can't =/= Won't

Unsure why this is difficult for you to grasp. I WON'T reply to your questions because you're a vapor to me. A wisp. A puff of smoke. Nothing. You're like this:

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I'm happy to entertain other people's questions; not yours.


I skimmed a bit last night before I went to bed; shuffled around to different chunks of pages like page 20, page 100, page 150, page 250 etc to get a more complete snapshot of the thread; all I saw was two autists trying to out-autist the other for 300 pages. It was pretty pitiful but it makes sense why Ryanz said this on page ONE of this thread:

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Thanks for the context Hodj... all you did was show that you're THAT annoying dork in school who goes up to people sticking his fingers in their face going "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!" So if your mission for linking that thread was to make me want to pity you even MORE, congrats, it worked


I'm not trying to get under your skin, just telling the truth. You're a nobody here on these forums. You could go away for 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year with the same result: No one would ever say, "Where'd Asmadai go???" I'm glad to know I can share that fact and it not bother you, honestly, because it's not like I feel GOOD about hurting people's feelings and I thought maybe it would, but you stating that it doesn't makes me feel okay about saying it now.

Oh, and yeah, crazy does run in our family. My brother's crazy is different from my crazy of course. Both of us understand each other and neither tries to dwell on the mote in the others eye while carrying the beam in our own (Bible reference, you may not understand it). But point in fact, my trip up to the parade WAS ruined because he ran out of weed and had a mini-crisis due to that (weed calms him down). I forgive him for his issues, it's nbd. I could care less if you believe me or not.


Bingo. I'm curious if some of the people who almost LIVE on these forums realize that this (FoH) is an echo chamber in and of itself. People have sent me PM's expressing their distaste that this forum has become such a right-wing slanted site. To which I think, well... it is exactly that, and why I feel at home (politically and ideologically) LoL. I just realize with the trans shit, that that is almost exclusively a left-wing "domain" and so as a trans conservative I get disagreements from both sides about my life and my views and that's okay... I'm a big girl with thick skin that can argue right back.


Of COURSE it's a mental illness. I think you just have the left trying to get it de-classified as a mental illness because it hurts their feels~ I was at work and there was a shiny new college level textbook on "Abnormal Psychology" that I picked up. I said to myself, GD has GOT to be in here, so I thumbed through the index and sure enough... it had a few pages talking about it. I mean, anyone being honest about it knows it's a mental illness, or at the very least a mental condition (if the words "mental illness" trigger you lefties).

But keep in mind that there is research indicating that there is a genetic/biological basis for GD too (as I have linked) so when I say that, yes, it's a mental illness, it's a mental illness that is formed in utero, no different than kids with autism or anything that afflicts people for their whole lives mentally.


Yeah that's how the trans community would see it, but a cure is a cure.

I mean, look at it this way: I have said on here that there are true trannies and there are frauds out there merely jumping on the trans train (i.e. non-binary xher/xhe pronoun Tumblr types) to be cool. I'm gonna make a wild analogy here but bare with me...........

Let's pretend that being a tranny is like being an X-Men mutant (there's a built in joke here already for you guys... have fun!). There are true mutants in the world, and there are regular humans who think it's "hip" to be mutants so they inject themselves with something to be mutants. The true trannies like myself, Blaire White, Jazz Jennings, Caitlyn Jenner and such who medically transition from male to female are like the true mutants while the non-binary xher/xhe pronoun dropping snowflakes who call themselves trans and don't even medically transition are like the regular humans who just want to be mutants. Not born with it.

If a "cure" for being a mutant was found to exist, don't you think it would be the frauds who would be the staunchest to be AGAINST it? Because... they don't want to be cured... they are frauds that want to be mutants.

The mere fact that I have said I didn't want this life but I had no choice in the matter, AND that I would fucking WELCOME a cure for gender dysphoria should one arise (I mean one besides a complete social transition from one gender to the other like we have now) should tell you... everything I have told you guys about this condition and about this life is true and I'm being sincere.


Well yes, if people are imposing treatment on a kid, it's unethical and immoral. That's what I've been saying too. Let's be VERY specific about that word "imposing" so we're not arguing semantics here. Imposing, as I define it, means "forcing upon". If a parent is forcing gender issues on their normal child or trying to alter their child's natural behavior, THAT is fucked up and abusive and the parent needs to lose a head, French Guillotine style. That is child abuse, bar none. IF the gender issues are stemming from the child and the parents are merely reacting to that and trying to quell their kid's issues, then that is simply being a caring and concerned parent.

However, if you're saying that even if the gender issues are stemming from the child, the child grows up into adolescence, and the gender issues persist and the parents do NOTHING about it, causing their kid to become miserable and suicidal as puberty hits and the parents STILL do nothing about it and just tell the child that they're a pansy and they gotta deal with their shit like a man because they're a man, not a woman and that that's okay, well that's where I draw the line myself and say that you're being a shitty parent for not supporting your kids with their issues.


You have my sympathies LoL


If you're saying that puberty blockers should be banned altogether because it allows the potential for twisted parents to FORCE gender transition upon non-transgender kids just to be "woke", then I DO get the message you and others are saying. Is that what you mean when you say "she just doesn't get it either" ?


LoL, truth be told I don't ENJOY it; I just have no qualms throwing shit right back at them... my skin is thick enough for it, unlike our previous trannies here on the forum. I'm simply a litmus test for hateful fucks in this thread. If you're a hateful fuck, I'm a hateful fuck right back toward you. If you're a cool chill person, I'm a cool chill person. I react to YOU, how YOU react to ME. It's pretty simple.

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Vanessa said:

LoL no offense taken; you know I love ya. The fun part of all of this is: the less people post here and try to *cough* keep arguing about stuff that's been beaten to death, the less my shit will be word-salady™. Trust me, I'm happy no matter how all of this pans out.

• If my hatertots grow weary of this, I'm happy... shit calms down then and when I have a day off (like I have been since I didn't go the parade), I don't come back to seeing my thread with 50 replies.
• If my hatertots get triggered more and more and continue to post their obsessive, autistic bullshit here, I'm happy... I'll keep breaking down their bullshit with their own thoughts and words.

...and I think this is really what it comes down to. I'm happy. I truly wonder if the same could be said for all the people coming in here poking the tranny looking for some reaction. Misery loves company, y'know.


Thanks for your concern Feanor... you seem to have mistaken me for someone else however. A honest mistake I'm sure; we both have grey-scale avatars at the moment. Which reminds me... I need to change it tomorrow with a more current pic. Furthermore, I think Fogel can speak for himself if he took umbrage from me more or less kinda agreeing with him. Honk Honk!

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Vanessa said:

Well Jazz is a minor celebrity at this point yeah. I saw her guest spot on the "What Would You Do?" segment recently.



Does Jazz Jennings appear to be harmed by puberty blockers to you? Because all I see is a happy, vibrant person.

In that video, when Jazz's mom was asked by the reporter, "You've had to put up with a lot of withering criticism. What, after all these years, do you say to people that still have those doubts?" her reply was "I'd rather have a living daughter than a dead son".

You say, "They are not making a choice to receive treatment". Well, yeah, they're not signing all the LEGAL paperwork and HIPAA forms and such... that's what parents do for any treatment their child gets, but the child certainly has a say through this process about what they feel, think and are.





Well yes, if people are imposing treatment on a kid, it's unethical and immoral. That's what I've been saying too. Let's be VERY specific about that word "imposing" so we're not arguing semantics here. Imposing, as I define it, means "forcing upon". If a parent is forcing gender issues on their normal child or trying to alter their child's natural behavior, THAT is fucked up and abusive and the parent needs to lose a head, French Guillotine style. That is child abuse, bar none. IF the gender issues are stemming from the child and the parents are merely reacting to that and trying to quell their kid's issues, then that is simply being a caring and concerned parent.

However, if you're saying that even if the gender issues are stemming from the child, the child grows up into adolescence, and the gender issues persist and the parents do NOTHING about it, causing their kid to become miserable and suicidal as puberty hits and the parents STILL do nothing about it and just tell the child that they're a pansy and they gotta deal with their shit like a man because they're a man, not a woman and that that's okay, well that's where I draw the line myself and say that you're being a shitty parent for not supporting your kids with their issues.


You have my sympathies LoL


If you're saying that puberty blockers should be banned altogether because it allows the potential for twisted parents to FORCE gender transition upon non-transgender kids just to be "woke", then I DO get the message you and others are saying. Is that what you mean when you say "she just doesn't get it either" ?

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chaos said:

So, I think that's an interesting question, about eliminating dysphoria. Iannis brought up autism earlier, and it made me think. Some people on these boards have stated they are probably somewhere on the spectrum, stuff just wasn't diagnosed as much back in our day. But if you look at those people they aren't unhappy fuckups, they're largely successful people, integrated into society. If the parents could have waved a magic wand and fixed that, would they still be the same people? Still be happy, successful? It's impossible to know.

The idea of integration is interesting. Practically, I'm not sure how that would work. At this point we really need to have our terms well defined. So gender dysphoria itself (accordingg to some definitions I read online) is the disrupted mental state cause by gender incongruence. Gender incongruence being the feeling or mental state that a person is the opposite gender of what their sex is. The dysphoria really is just a symptom of the incongruence, and you can see how they got to the solution that resolving the incongruence could be the key to overcoming dysphoria. But realistically, it doesn't seem to be successful, and there are all kinds of issues associated with the process itself. What would a process of integration that would address the gender incongruence look like in practice?

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