Nirgon
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Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)
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He did say he tried to cobble some local server together using copies of the code he had. I doubt he'd risk an expensive lawsuit by stating he's going to leak the entire game to an emulator community on livestream.
He'd do that shit where no one could see it if he was going to do it, and it would not come back to him.
First, you gotta find his contact info. Cyberstalking is a game in and of itself.
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I forget if Jeff stayed on after the buyout. We are talking a pre-SOE build it sounds like? Or a pre- relaunch build anyway.
Either way-- even a bug-ridden 1.0 2007 build would be insanely helpful to this project. The VGemu developers need data badly.
They can do everything on their own almost, it's been the lack of data holding them back from knocking this out. Morale would go through the roof for a 2006-2007 DB and if it was open source, the better. But if he had a re-release era build with a lot of bug fixes, that'd light an even bigger fire.
Jeff was an executive, he'd likely want to be involved in some way. I don't think the interaction would be to hand over a bunch of files. He'd want something anywhere from a token involvement with the emu project, or a substantive role in the revival. Maybe I'm off on that read, and he'd just donate the files. Who's to say, but the way I see it he'd prefer to be involved some way. Anyway the trick is how that's brokered, while still protecting him.
VGemu has reached out to devs before a few years ago-- I think if this was brought to their attention they'd do so again.
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IIRC, he went down to SoE to work on a prototype for a new game that never got off the ground.
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jayrebb
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Use the best approach first. Someone from the project preferably should give their blessing or make contact on behalf of the project first. LARP or not.
After that, if he balks or there is no response, then it's kitchen sink time and
Korrupt
can take a whack at it.
Get that 1k ready
After that, if he balks or there is no response, then it's kitchen sink time and
Korrupt
can take a whack at it.Get that 1k ready
Nirgon
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Well I sure am glad to see this effort rolling.
Uh, perhaps an appeal to revive a real MMO in a dark age of them?
Are people really that sheisty that they'd aggressively defend keeping their dead pile untouched and wasted? Holding out for what exactly and why? Just to be obstinate and "cuz I said so"?
I guess I've never been like that and give reasons or freely give things I no longer have a use for to those who would treasure it.
Uh, perhaps an appeal to revive a real MMO in a dark age of them?
Are people really that sheisty that they'd aggressively defend keeping their dead pile untouched and wasted? Holding out for what exactly and why? Just to be obstinate and "cuz I said so"?
I guess I've never been like that and give reasons or freely give things I no longer have a use for to those who would treasure it.
jayrebb
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Multiple avenues and ways to approach this-- one thing I can say for absolute sure is that this is the ONLY chance this emulator has of attaining full emulation. Without this cooperation, this project will never be truly playable in the way we all love and know. This is literally "it" so-to-speak. If you guys blow this, there's no other chance to get the DB. 4 other possibilities have been crossed off over the last 5 years. This is the final boss. Just remember this boss is a guy who shipped multiple games, he views emulators as pond scum, as do all the other Sigil/DBG people on these forums. They work on real games. They have about no regard for an emulator.
Ideally it should first be handled by ranking and active VGemu devs. But I see Xinux is inactive since 2018 here and some others are not around.
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moai13
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Xinux is active on the VG emu discord. Still is hammering away at it with his cadre, posts multiple updates weekly. This “reaching out” has been discussed over there, so if folks join that discord, read up a little on previous discord convos. /Basically/, the 1-20 content is done, outside darkelf area cuz it wasn’t data collected before shutdown.
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Only Unreal 4. Unreal Engine 2 (which Vanguard uses), and Unreal Engine 3 are still considered commercially licensed legacy engines.
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1-20 content is done and playable on the emu? If true that is pretty good, some of the most fun in the game was starting a toon in each starting area and working through the first 20 levels.
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jayrebb
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If anyone is capable of a combat recreation in a way that's true to the original Vanguard, and has the brains to do it, it's the current VGemu team.
But for fidelity sake, I hope you guys get some cooperation. If you can't get cooperation on the entire DB, maybe this individual would be willing to offer specific help on spells and combat if prompted with a specific request. Even a little cooperation or collaboration would go a long way-- to say the least. It's a lot easier to turn down a DB request than it is to turn down small specific advising and data consulting in certain areas.
But for fidelity sake, I hope you guys get some cooperation. If you can't get cooperation on the entire DB, maybe this individual would be willing to offer specific help on spells and combat if prompted with a specific request. Even a little cooperation or collaboration would go a long way-- to say the least. It's a lot easier to turn down a DB request than it is to turn down small specific advising and data consulting in certain areas.
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