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Bad outcomes aren't malpractice. People have bad outcomes. Malpractice is when you do something that falls below the standard of care. If they performed the procedure exactly as they're supposed to and the patient had a bad outcome, that is not malpractice.

Thats why I want to see some MRI's of these people who are having pain so we can see what they did and start trying to figure out whats causing the pain. If you stay silent and don't investigate, nothing will change and more guys will have the same outcome.
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The thing is though, I wasn't silent - I just wasn't getting any help. I got slapped on antibiotics and Vicodin, and when that didn't work, I got told to take more. And when that didn't work, they told me "sometimes it just takes more time." And when more time didn't work, I tried to find someone else to talk to and no one would, because they didn't do the procedure, so they didn't wanna take on someone else's trash. Which is understandable.

And when I found someone to talk to, they said "we don't really know, and we don't know how to fix it.". And that's actually the second time I've been told that in my life. In the LASIK thread, I stated I had a viral infection that left permanent scars on my retinas. I went to the doctor and they were like "holy shit, we gotta get some pictures of this." And then they said to come back next week, and they took more pictures. And the next week. And the week after.

And back then, (this wouldda been 99 or early 00), in order to take pictures of your retina, they shine a fuckin million watt halogen bulb into your eye. One day, after all the pictures they wanted to do, I remember they turned the room lights on and I asked "when did you guys get the red light in this room?" The nurse told me "uhh, it's not a red light, it's the same light it's always been." That's when I flipped my shit and asked the doctor "alright, enough of this shit, when am I gonna get over this?" And he said "oh, we can't cure this. But we see so few cases of it that we've gotta study it."

First time he ever told me that, in the months I had been going there. At no point did they ever have plans to fucking help me, they just wanted more data, and were billing me for it the entire time.

At some point, you just get tired of doctors and their bullshit. Don't even get me started on the pieces of shit down at the U and my daughter's birthmark.
 
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The thing is though, I wasn't silent - I just wasn't getting any help. I got slapped on antibiotics and Vicodin, and when that didn't work, I got told to take more. And when that didn't work, they told me "sometimes it just takes more time." And when more time didn't work, I tried to find someone else to talk to and no one would, because they didn't do the procedure, so they didn't wanna take on someone else's trash. Which is understandable.

And when I found someone to talk to, they said "we don't really know, and we don't know how to fix it.". And that's actually the second time I've been told that in my life. In the LASIK thread, I stated I had a viral infection that left permanent scars on my retinas. I went to the doctor and they were like "holy shit, we gotta get some pictures of this." And then they said to come back next week, and they took more pictures. And the next week. And the week after.

And back then, (this wouldda been 99 or early 00), in order to take pictures of your retina, they shine a fuckin million watt halogen bulb into your eye. One day, after all the pictures they wanted to do, I remember they turned the room lights on and I asked "when did you guys get the red light in this room?" The nurse told me "uhh, it's not a red light, it's the same light it's always been." That's when I flipped my shit and asked the doctor "alright, enough of this shit, when am I gonna get over this?" And he said "oh, we can't cure this. But we see so few cases of it that we've gotta study it."

First time he ever told me that, in the months I had been going there. At no point did they ever have plans to fucking help me, they just wanted more data, and were billing me for it the entire time.

At some point, you just get tired of doctors and their bullshit. Don't even get me started on the pieces of shit down at the U and my daughter's birthmark.
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Not talking about you being silent, I was talking about the idea that guys aren't piping up to their doctors about problems and the doctors aren't asking due to malpractice.
 
Cutlery

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Not talking about you being silent, I was talking about the idea that guys aren't piping up to their doctors about problems and the doctors aren't asking due to malpractice.
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Well, I piped up. Got nowhere

I don't think I'm the only one. In fact, I'm starting to understand every old man I've ever interacted with who says " fuck doctors, not going to them."

You can only pay to get told you're a pussy so many times.

I will admit that maybe I quoted too much of the post though. I don't have a dog in the malpractice fight, I just don't think that just because nothing happens means people aren't speaking up. We just get stifled because they already made money off us. Can't make more
 
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Well, I piped up. Got nowhere

I don't think I'm the only one. In fact, I'm starting to understand every old man I've ever interacted with who says " fuck doctors, not going to them."

You can only pay to get told you're a pussy so many times.

I will admit that maybe I quoted too much of the post though. I don't have a dog in the malpractice fight, I just don't think that just because nothing happens means people aren't speaking up. We just get stifled because they already made money off us. Can't make more
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Definitely shouldn't be like that. Especially when it's something as sensitive as sexual function, they ought to be more understanding and investigatory.

Doctors really do not give a shit about your comfort or lifestyle, they're just trained to help you not be dead. It's a major weakness in their training and outlook.
 
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Consultation next month with 'the best' vasectomy doctor in town. So what do I have in store after this procedure? Will I still be able to rocket loads into my beard and or pipe?
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I got one of these ten years ago. Don't recommend it. Yes, you can pretty much fuck away (and it might be in my imagination but I think I'm ready to go again faster now too). However the doctor that did it fucked something up and now I've got various issues down there with nerves and stuff (numb areas, sometimes when I orgasm it's like a dud with little to no intensity).

Pretty sure they nicked some nerves or something, can't prove it, have no way of finding out because every urologist I've talked to since just wanted to stick their hand up my ass and check the prostate because urologists don't know how to fucking do anything besides that. Maybe I should go for an MRI or a CT scan (I feel like I did already and they showed nothing).

All that, plus it just feels weird in general down there now, peeing barely has any sensation at all compared to before. Also sometimes there's this weird "constriction" feeling in two or three different spots in the urethra where it feels like something's pinching them. Also, ejaculate has basically zero projection whatsoever. Maybe fires six inches at the most on a potent one, but it's more likely to just kinda ooze out. When I was younger I could fire it like 3 feet in the air.

Vasectomy is great if it goes right and there are no mistakes. If your doctor nicks a nerve or fucks up in some way, which apparently happens about 5% of the time from what I've read online, don't expect ANY help or recourse. From what I read, I actually lucked out a bit because even though mine went fairly poorly, most of the folks online in a similar boat seem to have much worst problems than I do (as in, can't orgasm anymore, or get terrible muscle pains afterwards, stuff like that). At least my weird issues haven't gotten worse over the past ten years, they've just sorta...been there.

TLDR: My advice is to just not fuck with your privates at all. Make your girlfriend wear a goddamn IUD or something. Better for her than BC pills and the only real downside is they can fall out if you bang a lot and have a big johnson. Vasectomy is a huge move to make and has some risk involved. You're messing with something that's already perfectly-designed, trusting some human to not mangle you. They might tell you there's zero risk and that it's a simple surgery that never has complications, but they aren't being honest about that.
 
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My advice is to just not fuck with your privates at all. Make your girlfriend wear a goddamn IUD or something. Better for her than BC pills and the only real downside is they can fall out if you bang a lot and have a big johnson. Vasectomy is a huge move to make and has some risk involved. You're messing with something that's already perfectly-designed, trusting some human to not mangle you. They might tell you there's zero risk and that it's a simple surgery that never has complications, but they aren't being honest about that.
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Adebisi

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I got one of these ten years ago. Don't recommend it. Yes, you can pretty much fuck away (and it might be in my imagination but I think I'm ready to go again faster now too). However the doctor that did it fucked something up and now I've got various issues down there with nerves and stuff (numb areas, sometimes when I orgasm it's like a dud with little to no intensity).

Pretty sure they nicked some nerves or something, can't prove it, have no way of finding out because every urologist I've talked to since just wanted to stick their hand up my ass and check the prostate because urologists don't know how to fucking do anything besides that. Maybe I should go for an MRI or a CT scan (I feel like I did already and they showed nothing).

All that, plus it just feels weird in general down there now, peeing barely has any sensation at all compared to before. Also sometimes there's this weird "constriction" feeling in two or three different spots in the urethra where it feels like something's pinching them. Also, ejaculate has basically zero projection whatsoever. Maybe fires six inches at the most on a potent one, but it's more likely to just kinda ooze out. When I was younger I could fire it like 3 feet in the air.

Vasectomy is great if it goes right and there are no mistakes. If your doctor nicks a nerve or fucks up in some way, which apparently happens about 5% of the time from what I've read online, don't expect ANY help or recourse. From what I read, I actually lucked out a bit because even though mine went fairly poorly, most of the folks online in a similar boat seem to have much worst problems than I do (as in, can't orgasm anymore, or get terrible muscle pains afterwards, stuff like that). At least my weird issues haven't gotten worse over the past ten years, they've just sorta...been there.

TLDR: My advice is to just not fuck with your privates at all. Make your girlfriend wear a goddamn IUD or something. Better for her than BC pills and the only real downside is they can fall out if you bang a lot and have a big johnson. Vasectomy is a huge move to make and has some risk involved. You're messing with something that's already perfectly-designed, trusting some human to not mangle you. They might tell you there's zero risk and that it's a simple surgery that never has complications, but they aren't being honest about that.
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That post was from 2012 😉

Empty loads for 13 years now.
 
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Rajaah

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Worst decision maybe of my entire life. Haven't been able to have orgasms since really. I have a few year (2-3) maybe. Someone else on here ended up the same. Doctors refuse to address. I'm quite confident it's related to inflammation and damage to nerves. The vast majority of vasectomies will resolve without issue. I had bad inflammation for over a year. Looking back I should have been really aggressive combating inflammation ( was taking high levels of naprosyn but wasnt working ) the doctor completly ignoring me insisting the complications from vasectomies' wasn't a thing. I have talked to enough people over more than a decade that matched my experience almost exactly. Maybe it's 1 in 100 or even 1 in a 1000 who knows since medical community does not want to address it. I posted on this a long time ago I don't even remember what iteration of the forum.
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Yeah dude, the lack of help is the worst part. Nobody wants to deal with it, main surgeon who did the procedure was way more concerned with making sure he wasn't liable than he was with finding out what the problem was, and totally avoided eye contact with me after the surgery when I went in for the follow-up (which tells me that maybe he knew he fucked up).

Funny thing is, after he told me that these things "don't happen", I talked to the other surgeon who works in his practice, off the record outside, and she told me straight-up that these things do happen because they're dealing with a lot of nerves in that area. Was comical to hear the exact opposite from two different surgeons in the same 20 minute span of time.

Adebisi said:
That post was from 2012 😉

Empty loads for 13 years now.
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Yeah. There's no real statute of limitations on this. Ten years later for me and it's just been weird the entire time. Definitely regret it.

I read that there's a 3 year statute on medical lawsuits, but it begins with the time of diagnosis (not the time of injury) so if I ever DO get a doctor to find out what the problem is (or even that there is a problem) in theory I'll have 3 years to sue the hospital the original surgeon worked for and many years now of problems to sue them over.

The latest urologist I saw had an idea (which is more than most of them do) and told me to get PT for pelvic floor muscles, since mine are apparently weakened, and he's "90% sure" this is what's causing me to have the issues that started the week I got the vas (which would be a hell of a coincidence). So I'll try getting pelvic floor PT for a few months and see if that helps matters.
 
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