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I am actually feeling a wee bit pissed, because my bivouac here NE PA just isn't cutting it winter-wise. I need a couple healthy, crippling snowstorms (one of nature's most hilarious IQ tests) and a month+ of hard cold, like highs in the low 20's, nights below 10. That's when I break out the rubber boots and an extra hoodie and run errands in pure, am-I-dreaming comfort.

I'm not nearly hardcore tho as people even further north. IS anyone here from the northern tier? Minnesota? Upstate NY? Canadians? Other level, Canadians.

Heh. Probably my fave Sopranos minor character is the Russian dude.

Cold is its own reality. Just thinking strictly from a readiness perspective, think how history works out. People who live in frozen places are always smarter. You ever play chess with an Inuit? It's a learning experience. Because it's fucking cold and you can't concentrate.
 

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I am actually feeling a wee bit pissed, because my bivouac here NE PA just isn't cutting it winter-wise. I need a couple healthy, crippling snowstorms (one of nature's most hilarious IQ tests) and a month+ of hard cold, like highs in the low 20's, nights below 10. That's when I break out the rubber boots and an extra hoodie and run errands in pure, am-I-dreaming comfort.

I'm not nearly hardcore tho as people even further north. IS anyone here from the northern tier? Minnesota? Upstate NY? Canadians? Other level, Canadians.

Heh. Probably my fave Sopranos minor character is the Russian dude.

Cold is its own reality. Just thinking strictly from a readiness perspective, think how history works out. People who live in frozen places are always smarter. You ever play chess with an Inuit? It's a learning experience. Because it's fucking cold and you can't concentrate.

I'm Canadian, and lived in Ottawa for a bunch of years. One winter we had a longer than three week period where it didn't get above -30, day or night. It was kind of miserable because there is always wind on top of the cold. It was often very sunny and bright, but could not be outside for any period of time. Didn't have a garage, so I got a block heater for the car, and it was always plugged in. Start it 10 minutes before going anywhere so you didn't have to sit in the cold, cold car.

I did use my bicycle until about -20. But below that is just not okay. I deal well with cold weather. I'm taking a couple of my kids winter camping in a couple weeks. It's supposed to be in the 20s, perfect for winter camping.
 
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yeah. see. that sounds impossible to me. My worst cold snap was in central PA in the 90's, for a couple days it was below 0 F. I ran to the corner store, bundled up, but I could feel the cold (and yes, it was crisp, bright, and windy) just eating through my clothing. The lowest I've done camping is mid single digits at night, and that was only one night because I decided to not camp the next morning.

But I do want to do some serious cold weather camping. I just need to up my game. Bucket list.
 

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Weather is just something you dress for, not something that normally affects your daily life. I won't go ice fishing without a ice house below 0 and -10 is dangerous for biking. -20 would be crazy, props on that. I could breath of I was biking on that. Mostly because of black ice and tires going flat. I think the coldest I've played disc golf is -25 but I'd do that in any weather. The answer for cold is layers and wool.
 

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Weather is just something you dress for, not something that normally affects your daily life. I won't go ice fishing without a ice house below 0 and -10 is dangerous for biking. -20 would be crazy, props on that. I could breath of I was biking on that. Mostly because of black ice and tires going flat. I think the coldest I've played disc golf is -25 but I'd do that in any weather. The answer for cold is layers and wool.

Yeah, that was -20 Celsius. So that's what, -4 Fahrenheit? -20F is almost -30 C, that's too cold.
 

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It's been a warm, dry winter in Montana... until this week. Got to spend an hour standing out in the wind this morning thawing out a windmill with a propane torch which was just awesome.
 
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I was going to say I was in North Dakota a couple years ago where it got to -50 Fahrenheit with wind chill. Fuck that noise.
 
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Calling for another 10" to 16" by Tuesday... we have already had our yearly 'average' (44") of snowfall in the last two weeks alone.
 
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I'm not nearly hardcore tho as people even further north. IS anyone here from the northern tier? Minnesota? Upstate NY? Canadians? Other level, Canadians.

Upstate NY here. Highs in the 20s, lows in the single digits, both positive and negative. Honestly nothing out of the ordinary lately. The storm last week ended up dropping maybe 6" here, but things were actually worse to the south.
 
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Pretty good steady rain here now at my parents house in MS. Walked outside for a sec and ice on the driveway. Gonna be a wonderful day to get out and drive, umm no. Fun will be if it doesn't warm up and the shit drips off trees and structures for two days.

The good news is weather only says 18% chance on rain today lol.
 
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Say, how's that old Colonel doing, that old coot who loves the heat and humidity down there, Colonel... tip of my tongue and wouldn't you know I can't remember.
 

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0F forecast for Dallas Monday. Last time it got this cold I remember it well. Christmas 1989 in Baton Rouge it got down to about 2-5F. Chemical plants and refineries down here don't react that well to the cold. Exxon refinery had a stuck valve fail at the tank farm, blew up and pushed back houses on their slabs. It's now a "wildflower" area lol after they bought and cleared all the houses. was 30 miles away hunting and heard it.
 
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Ice on I-35 now a New Braunfesls. Halfway between San Antonio and Austion. Gonna get nasty quick. Forecast up in east, TX now right on the Louisiana border calls for 0. Currently I'm less than an hour from Baton Rouge and the forest is arouond 5 and snow/ice Monday. Fun fun fun. Almost 10 years ago I had to drive through a bad ice storm into BR for a plant deal. Made it across bridge after bridge till I got to the I-10 bridge over the MS. The office was right there, had a great view of all the people coming from Houston direction trying to make it up, then back down, then up again and slide down again lol. Eventually the state police put a semi across the bridge enar the top parked sideways to pull some trucks up that apparently needed to get to the refinery on the other side. I can't imagine being winched down though that would have sucked.
 

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I have to admit, 6 inches of snow in the land of bald tires and oily roads sounds terrifying. I think I'd just stay home.
 
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It's not bad when there is ice everywhere. It's bad when you drive mile after mile of normal road and then hit a 1 foot rise and there's ice on the downhill side from dripping off signs and trees. Some times the ice just comes down, sometimes like an ice fog. The worst is it rains and blows out and the ground dries up and it freezes on trees and road overpasses and such. Then it melts and refreezes on the road, bridges, and overpasses and nobody expects it.

Same time I tried driving to BR for a plant deal the ice was real bad on the bridge. In front of the house it's on the side of a hill. No ice at all till the ice in the trees melted and refroze on the road in the shade. Then wreck after wreck people didn't see it and bam bam bam. I walked out to it and ice was over an inch thick just water flowing down hill and freezing. Nasty shit.