Khane
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Seriously? What the fuck? And he's worried about non-dairy creamer from time to time?
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Khane
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What do you mean by "a la carte"? If you mean keto diets that don't require you to buy special meals, supplements or shakes then you can pretty much choose from any popular keto diet as none of them require you to buy anything other than normal food. Mostly all of them spell out very specific directions on what/how you should eat as well. As far as studies go, most of the diet authors have only done smaller controlled studies, whereas third parties are usually the ones doing larger scale studies.
The problem is, when it comes to health these test results can very easily be skewed by external factors that had little to nothing to do with a diet so take those with a grain of salt and really digest the material of any studies you read.
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Yeah, bulletproof coffee I believe it's called. I want to say it's like a half a stick of butter. And you have to forcefully emulsify it with a stick blender.
Did you tell your doctor any of this, Ubiquitrips?
I told my doctor I was doing a Ketogenic diet. I didn't outright tell him I was drinking 5 tablespoons of butter as my breakfast / lunch. I was doing myfitnesspal for the past couple of weeks, should be visible.
Ubiquitrips's Food Diary | MyFitnessPal.com
The week of 3/16 - 3/22 is pretty normal for me.
I started to use butter to cook everything. That is the first thing that I decided was going last night. More Olive Oil, etc. I am also going to eat more typical lunches rather than just the fats I had been taking in before. Going to adjust macros and such to take in less fat over the day.
Age: 33
LDL: 230
HDL: 39 (was off above, 31 > 39 was the shift)
Ubiquitrips's Food Diary | MyFitnessPal.com
The week of 3/16 - 3/22 is pretty normal for me.
I started to use butter to cook everything. That is the first thing that I decided was going last night. More Olive Oil, etc. I am also going to eat more typical lunches rather than just the fats I had been taking in before. Going to adjust macros and such to take in less fat over the day.
Age: 33
LDL: 230
HDL: 39 (was off above, 31 > 39 was the shift)
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What ketogenic diet are you following that recommended you eat that way? The author should be shot. You are eating almost all fat and very little protein. Not only that but it's almost all dairy fat (cheese and butter). You need to be eating more protein and you need to stop eating so much goddamn butter. You should try to limit yourself to 4oz of cheese or less a day as well.
You need to read up on the appropriate way to eat ketogenic. There is too much to explain, buy a book like Atkins (or go to the website) and start reading.
You need to read up on the appropriate way to eat ketogenic. There is too much to explain, buy a book like Atkins (or go to the website) and start reading.
It wasn't so much a keto guideline, more the Bulletproof Coffee as a primary base. It was just easier to call it keto as it was more likely to have been heard of.
I will do some reading / drop the butter. Back to the drawing board!
I will do some reading / drop the butter. Back to the drawing board!
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With such a dramatic change at such a young age, I can't imagine it being anything other than your excessive butter intake. At your age it's usually something like that or just terrible genetics, but they'd be the same genes you had 6 months ago.
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I'm no expert on keto in general but my brother in law (Professor of microbiology) who went crazy when he first started and read a bunch of pubmed articles on the subject came to the conclusion that too much protein can push you out of ketosis. The literature heavily emphasized deriving as much energy as possible from fat with only the minimal amount of protein. Things like butter,cheese and oil are great at getting more of your calories derived from fat, without pushing you protein levels too high. He also noted to me some people see a 20-30% rise in their cholesterol levels on the diet but others see a drop. Before the diet he was quite a bit more overweight and on statins to lower his cholesterol but now three+ months later he's down 40lbs and off the statins because his cholesterol is in a normal range.
For me most meals are some sort of protein and heavy helping of green veggies deep fried/cooked in butter or oil. My main problem has been maintaining the right level of salts in my body. I had to add in supplements for both Potassium (muscle pain) and Magnesium (muscle twitches).
For me most meals are some sort of protein and heavy helping of green veggies deep fried/cooked in butter or oil. My main problem has been maintaining the right level of salts in my body. I had to add in supplements for both Potassium (muscle pain) and Magnesium (muscle twitches).
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There is not a single keto diet plan out there that recommends "minimal" amounts of protein. At most you should be looking at a 50/50 split of remaining calories (outside of the few carbs you're eating) as fat/protein. You substitute healthy (and that is the key word) fats in place of carbs but you also will tend to eat more protein than otherwise on a keto diet as well. Supplanting carbs with cheese and butter is a terrible way to try and live a keto lifestyle. Those things are fine in moderation but your brother in law sounds like the typical keto novice who pretends he read that eating all the mayonnaise and bacon he wants is perfectly healthy.
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Your body converts protein and fats into glucose by gluconeogenesis. It can do this easier and quicker with protein than fat and in some people it van take them out of ketosis. It's highly individual, though, and wouldn't spend much time worrying about it
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The simplest thing to do when you want to lose weight is to cut liquid calories. Eat the same, but drink water and plain black coffee if you need the caffeine. Just doing that cuts a staggering amount of calories for most people.
Outright drinking butter while on a diet? Now that is some pretty amazing stuff.
Outright drinking butter while on a diet? Now that is some pretty amazing stuff.
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My wording of minimal could have been better. I'm talking about focusing where the calories come from and not overly emphasizing meat.
faq - keto
The reddit keto FAQ even emphasizes keeping the protein to a moderate amount. There are some pretty big differences between a keto diet and an atkin's diet. I've also read people putting a small amount of coconut oil in their coffees, never really butter though.
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You're confusing your thoughts I think. There are differences between ketogenic diets meant to treat epilepsy in children that shouldn't even really be considered by full grown adults and the Atkin's diet. But I assure you, Atkins is a ketogenic diet (during the first two phases).