Weight Loss Thread

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Eidal

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I'm confused why you post this stuff man. What about this is relevant? Weight training is good, overeating is bad? No shit. Furthermore, his 90 day plan clearly states absolutely no alcohol. For any drinker, this alone would very likely lead to weight loss.

Are you really that intrigued by a guy who says: exercise, eat below your TDEE but don't go overboard on restriction, and don't drink booze? That's hisplan?
 

Cad

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I'm confused why you post this stuff man. What about this is relevant? Weight training is good, overeating is bad? No shit. Furthermore, his 90 day plan clearly states absolutely no alcohol. For any drinker, this alone would very likely lead to weight loss.

Are you really that intrigued by a guy who says: exercise, eat below your TDEE but don't go overboard on restriction, and don't drink booze? That's hisplan?
Well, I think the point is to not just try to undereat your BMR and go from there, because eventually you'll be restricted down to nothing. Eat at/near BMR and get your deficit through exercise.
 

Khane

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"Low calorie diets slow down your metabolism so when you do start eating normally, you put all the weight back on."

"That's why I don't start my clients on low calories. If you're only eating 1400 calories and you plateau, you can't restrict any more calories or you're basically starving yourself."
This guy is not too bright. Both of those last two sentences are completely false and studies have conclusively shown the body just doesn't work this way. He's a moron and you should feel bad for posting this garbage here. Read up on the minnesota starvation study. If you "plateau" you're either at your ideal caloric intake or you're still eating too much (or you have an actual medical condition, in which case go to the doctor).
 

Ossoi

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This guy is not too bright. Both of those last two sentences are completely false and studies have conclusively shown the body just doesn't work this way. He's a moron and you should feel bad for posting this garbage here. Read up on the minnesota starvation study. If you "plateau" you're either at your ideal caloric intake or you're still eating too much (or you have an actual medical condition, in which case go to the doctor).
Haha, go and look at his ig account and the results he gets from online clients, then come groveling back for my forgiveness, ROFL
 

Ossoi

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It was for the benefit of the idiots that think eating 1500 calories as an adult male is healthy

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Go look at his ig and you'll see exactly what his methods are
 

Khane

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I don't care what his methods are Ossoi, his reasoning is flat out wrong. You cannot argue because you too will be wrong. And he's propagating a lie to earn money. Anyone can get those results. Literally anyone. Correlation is not causation. You're too stupid to realize this.

It's like someone claiming they know the best way to do something "because I've been doing this for 20 years!!!". Well a donkey will always be a donkey. He doesn't just magically turn into a stud after 20 years.
 

Mures

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Ossoi the reason so many people argue with you in this thread is you constantly speak in absolutes when different people work differently, have different goals, and different means of getting there. The shit that you're linking, those guys have to speak in absolutes because they are trying to sell their product, you are not.
 

McCheese

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I find it so silly when people claim that suchandsuch trainer is amazing because he/she has great success with getting clients in shape. All it takes is strict adherence to a healthy diet and regular exercise/working out to get into phenomenal shape. Like Khane says, pretty much ANYONE who sticks with a healthy diet/exercise program long-term will get fantastic results, whether they do it with a trainer or not. It has almost nothing to do with the various methods that different trainers use.
 

Ossoi

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Different means or not, there's no way it's healthy or optimal for an adult male to eat less than an adult female.

That's all I'm doing here, pointing out to Zaide that by eating sub 1500 cals and the same foods then he's not doing himself any favours. Because if women can eat more and still lose weight, then clearly he should be eating more too.

I really don't see what's so hard to understand

Go look at the meals that guy prepares, then come back and tell me it's not infinitely superior to zaides diet
 

Khane

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Nothing is hard to understand for us. You seem to be having a hard time understanding that you linked an article where the "expert" is alluding to "starvation mode" and how it hinders weight loss. Which is why I mentioned you should read the Minnesota starvation experiment so you can see why he obviously just doesn't understand how the human body works.
 

Ossoi

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Nothing is hard to understand for us. You seem to be having a hard time understanding that you linked an article where the "expert" is alluding to "starvation mode" and how it hinders weight loss. Which is why I mentioned you should read the Minnesota starvation experiment so you can see why he obviously just doesn't understand how the human body works.
Of course he doesn't
 

McCheese

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Do we really need a guy with nutrition PHD to tell us to put down that next Oreo? Epitome of #1stWorldProblems.
Sadly, I think most people do. There's a reason tons of people never see real success until they have a trainer and/or super structured plan to follow that tells them exactly what to do, how to do it, and when to do it.
 

Ossoi

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. Anyone can get those results. Literally anyone.
I'm going to break down how utterly stupid this is.

Communicating only by email, using only photos of the client to assist you, you think it's possible to design an custom meal plan that:

a) meets all their macro/nutritional needs
b) fuels all the gym activity
c) causes them to lose body fat/build muscle
d) is varied enough so that boredom/compliance don't become an issue

Whilst also being available for email enquiries and doing exactly the same thing for however many other clients you have.

Do you genuinely think you can replicate results like these in other people?Instagram

Let's see.

Design me a diet/meal plan and exercise regime and I'll carry it out for four weeks and see what results we get.

I could care less how many people on this thread disagree with me. I've cut down to 10% body fat and below. I've posted pics here for everyone to see and judge.

It's the same mouthbreathers saying the same bs like "lol PTs are so unnecessary"
 

Cad

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That Minnesota experiment thing is crazy because they had guys eating only 1500 calories a day, and they were like amputating fingers, getting depressed, and were preoccupied with food, and thats only 3 months at 1500 calories.

Either they measured calories funny or all of us are eating a lot more than we think we are.
 

Khane

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I hope you're joking... oh who am I kidding. It's you I'm talking to.

EDIT: That was directed at Ossoi
 

McCheese

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I'm going to break down how utterly stupid this is.

Communicating only by email, using only photos of the client to assist you, you think it's possible to design an custom meal plan that:

a) meets all their macro/nutritional needs
b) fuels all the gym activity
c) causes them to lose body fat/build muscle
d) is varied enough so that boredom/compliance don't become an issue

Whilst also being available for email enquiries and doing exactly the same thing for however many other clients you have.

Do you genuinely think you can replicate results like these in other people?Instagram

Let's see.

Design me a diet/meal plan and exercise regime and I'll carry it out for four weeks and see what results we get.
People do that all by themselves all the time over the internet. They go to websites to figure out workout routines and diets/recipes, and use something like myfitnesspal to track macros. Go to bodybuilding.com and look at the "Fat to fit" thread to see--literally--hundreds of people who got amazing results by using their own ability to do simple research and stick to a plan for a long time.

Again, it's not hard to get into shape! It only requires adhering to a diet/workout long-term and being consistent with everything. Just because you're one of those people contributing to the $60 billion/year in weight loss profits from silly trainers, plans, and other marketing garbage doesn't mean everyone requires that much "help."
 

Khane

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That Minnesota experiment thing is crazy because they had guys eating only 1500 calories a day, and they were like amputating fingers, getting depressed, and were preoccupied with food, and thats only 3 months at 1500 calories.

Either they measured calories funny or all of us are eating a lot more than we think we are.
Keep in mind they had them exercising as well. And I believe they were all ex military (i.e. strapping fellows). And I don't believe the mental aspects really kicked in until they had them down to like 900 calories