Weight Loss Thread
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Khane
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It won't. But here's how that conversation will go, I'll say:
"Cutting carbs from 150g a day to 100g a day, regardless of what kind of carb it is and also filling those calories with fats and proteins instead will be a negative on your energy? Are you kidding me?"
Then he'll say:
"You have terrible reading comprehension, that's not what I said at all. Keep up the crusade carb free boy"
Rezz is the last person here anyone should listen to or take advice from. The entire conversation has been in reference to your original question which was about low carb diets and Atkins in particular. In every post discussing the topic at hand since then everyone has referenced low carb diets. Yet he says this:
He does nothing but hand wave and shift the goal posts while spewing whatever is on his mind. I'd go back and link you the off the wall conversation we had where he was telling everyone that eating packaged, processed carbohydrates and fast food doesn't have any noticeable effect on health. Any time you feel "bad" after eating that garbage it's only just mental. You actually feel fine.Rezz_sl said:
And Rezz. I worked for Atkins nutritionals for 2 years, I knew the doctor (he was a medical doctor not a professor), read the book cover to cover and lived the lifestyle on top of that. So yea, I am a fucking authority.
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The keto thing worked for me. did like 70 lbs in 6 months. Well I should say at first it was calorie deficit, then keto for that last 30 or so lbs when i hit a platou. Im still low carb, like ~50g per day or so. I dont lift, I dont exercise cause im a lazy fuck. But that shit worked for me. Been floating around 195-200 for the last 6 months and all is good. Now I dont even miss the carbs. Im at a point that I can forgo food for long periods of time now with no ill effects to my energy. I also dont count shit anymore, no more calorie counting, or carb counting. I just stay away from carbs, eat good protein and fat and veggies. I have no cravings anymore although i still miss my bread from time to time. Especially when i see my wife or kids woofing down a bagel in front of me I feel sad. But then I look at myself in the mirror and all is good.
This is totally a sustainable lifestyle, dont let anyone fool you into believing that you need scores of carbs in your diet to survive, cause you dont. Of course everyone is different, im just speaking from my experience with it. Ive actually been checked by doc a few times with blood draws and he says im the healthiest that ive been since I have started going to him in 2008.
This is totally a sustainable lifestyle, dont let anyone fool you into believing that you need scores of carbs in your diet to survive, cause you dont. Of course everyone is different, im just speaking from my experience with it. Ive actually been checked by doc a few times with blood draws and he says im the healthiest that ive been since I have started going to him in 2008.
Rezz
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Glycogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What Is Ketosis?
Ketone bodies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When you are not in ketosis, your body does not process fats/proteins as an energy source with anything even remotely close to the same efficiency for energy as it does when processing carbohydrates. When you are in ketosis (which you get to by consuming few/no carbohydrates) your body processes them substantially better, yet still slightly less efficiently than a non-keto individual would carbs. So if you are not in ketosis, relying on fats and proteins as your primary fuel source (especially for lifting, which is what I referenced in my original comment to you) means you are not going to have the same efficiency of usage and restoration of energy in the gym. Because your body wants to process carbohydrates first, and the fats/proteins are the backup. When you are in ketosis and your body has acclimated to it (after what others are calling Keto Fog phase) you won't notice as much of an energy drop off if any at all. But, if you are not in ketosis, and you are eating reduced but not "cut" carb intake, you will most likely notice that you will be exhausting your glycogen stores much more quickly, and your workouts will probably seem more difficult to progress through and/or feel weaker faster in the process. Hence my described "lack of oomph."
Again, like I said in my original comment post, it really depends on how much you are cutting off your carbs compared to your previous lifestyle. If you were consuming an additional 1k calories a day just in carbs(assuming a balanced-ish diet), cutting 1k in carbs is probably not going to have a real effect on your lifting capabilities. If you were much more reasonable, there's a pretty good chance it would. And also how closely you are following an atkins-themed diet, would be my addendum. Apparently after two weeks you are on an entirely different phase of Atkins, so if you are intent on following it, I would look directly at what it says regarding what you can and cannot add/remove from your diet.
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I can't believe this thread was re-activated by a repeat of the keto debate, what's even more surprising is that Himeo wasn't responsible.
For the final time.
Keto works for people.
Keto isn't necessary to lose weight.
I believe the optimal approach is carb cycling: carbs in your post workout meal. Protein+Fat+Veg every other meal.
For the final time.
Keto works for people.
Keto isn't necessary to lose weight.
I believe the optimal approach is carb cycling: carbs in your post workout meal. Protein+Fat+Veg every other meal.
chaos
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So bros, this seems like a better thread to ask in. TheMaster pointed me toRuling the Keto Diet Getting in Shape - Guides | Recipes | Tipsbecause I'm doing the low carb/keto thing to help my wife out. I'm trying to figure out what I will be doing for breakfast during the week. I generally wake up early as fuck and try to hit the gym by 530 or 6 in order to be at work by 7-730. Do any of you actually drink this bulletproof coffee? It sounds pretty fucking gross. And I make coffee, but I do cold brew so I was worried it wouldn't work.
Eidal
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Bulletproof coffee is silly and whatever magical claims people were making about it years ago was debunked.
Bulletproof Coffee: Debunking the Hot Buttered Hype
Bulletproof Coffee: Debunking the Hot Buttered Hype
chaos
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I know a little bit of the background behind it and that the guy was basically a snake oil salesman. It seems like these keto sites just use it as a breakfast thing, have your coffee plus some fats instead of eating whatever the fuck you would normally. No way in hell I can convince my wife to drink that shit. But I do drink coffee so I figured I would at least see if people had done it or not.
Ossoi, yeah my wife is prediabetic, which I guess means she will be soon or something. They never exactly explained that. But yeah, the dr wants her to do the low carb/high fat thing and see if that can reverse it.
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Pre diabetic means she has insulin resistance and probably has metabolic syndrome. Its not a good sign. Increased blood pressure, high blood sugar, excess body fat around the waist, and abnormal cholesterol or triglyceride levels - that occur together, increasing your risk of heart disease, stroke and diabetes.
I never had the elevated blood sugar thing, but had all the other symptoms.
I never had the elevated blood sugar thing, but had all the other symptoms.
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Yep, low carb and exercise will help.
20mins HIIT 4 x a week to start off with. Can be done at home, try something like
I would also suggest buying this book from the guy in the above videoLean in 15: 15 minute meals and workouts to keep you lean and healthy eBook: Joe Wicks: Amazon.co.uk: Kindle Store
It will contain lots of recipes and detail his exercise and carb cycling plan (carbs after workout only). I just tweeted him to check it's suitable for pre-diabetics and he assured me that it is.
I've plugged this guy before because he's been all over social media for the last 2 years and his transformations are mostly people that never exercised before and have no idea what to eat or how to cook.
The sheer number of transformations speak for themselvesTransformations / The Body Coach
If she/you get on with the book recipes and exercise format (there's no reason why you both couldn't benefit) then you could take it one step further and go on his 90 day plan, which would be more recipes and based around 4 weeks HIIT, and 8 weeks weights with HIIT.90 Day SSS / The Body Coach
Dandai
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I don't know that you need to do it 4x a week (2x a week at 15-20 minutes per session should be fine, especially for a beginner), but the high intensity (whatever that means for you/her) is really important to becoming insulin sensitive again. You have to deplete the glycogen stores in your muscles so the insulin has some place to make its deposit. What you eat is obviously important, but if we're talking about becoming more insulin sensitive, activity is equally important.
Edit: To clarify, low intensity does burn glycogen too, but at a much slower pace. If you want to be on the fast track to becoming more insulin sensitive, high intensity is the way to go. Don't make the mistake I always make when starting a new routine and go ALL FUCKING IN because you'll be sore as a mother fucker and probably so discouraged that you don't keep it up. Eeeeeaaaaase into it.
I drank Bulletproof coffee every day for breakfast for about 1.5 years while I did Keto. It wasn't magic, but it provided coffee and fats / protein as I mixed in some protein powder. It was easy to make and kept me full until lunch no problem. The key for me was working into it slowly and I used coconut oil instead of MCT oil. My body had an averse reaction to MCT that made me feel nauseous. The recipe ended up being 2 tbsp butter, 1tbsp coconut oil, scoop protein, and coffee. I wasn't as big of a fan of the BPC without the protein powder as I wanted it to be more dense / shake like.
I stopped drinking Bulletproof coffee when I stopped Keto and went back to carbs. If I did start Keto again, I am not sure I would make the coffee. I find I enjoy solid foods more and I have worked to make myself more of a morning person so I have time to actually make breakfast. BPC was definitely convenient as you just pour it all in, blend, into travel mug, and go.
I stopped drinking Bulletproof coffee when I stopped Keto and went back to carbs. If I did start Keto again, I am not sure I would make the coffee. I find I enjoy solid foods more and I have worked to make myself more of a morning person so I have time to actually make breakfast. BPC was definitely convenient as you just pour it all in, blend, into travel mug, and go.
Dandai
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Because I'm a total pussy for bitter, I put a little salt on the grounds (Alton Brown's recommendation - about 1/8 tsp per 2 tbsp of coffee grounds) and it takes the bitterness right out. I don't even need to sweeten my coffee any more. Somehow the coffee doesn't taste salted at all, by the way. I don't know why.