Weight Loss Thread

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#1 is the most important thing about any of it. I think that most attempts that I have given to weight loss, do stem from wanting it to happen. But things change, life happens, who knows. The ability to keep that motivation. To not give in, to keep going. That is more the battle. Then again, if you have #1, you'll have the will power and control to keep going. Guess it all works off #1!

How do you convince yourself that you don't want any of it anymore? Don't read the Fast Food thread? Lol... Giving up red meat would be way more difficult than giving up carbs for me, so I feel that's the best way to go.
For you, portion control should be easy. Go and buy a pack of cards, don't open it. print out a family pic and stick your kids faces on that pack of cards. Whatever you eat should be the size of a pack of cards, double as thick. If you can't control yourself, look at your family's faces stuck to the pack of cards, you're not gonna be around to see them if you eat more than that.

And heck if that is too much for you to do, take out your smartphone and have your family as a wallpaper, same thing, as long as you don't got a galaxy note phablet.

Diabeetus is serious, my father in law had to give up rice, he's asian.

i think 99% of losing weight is only 3 reasons
1. health
2. vanity
3. lifestyle

you want to try keto? come back tomorrow w/ what you had for breakfast, lunch and dinner today, either post it or take a picture. Don't forget to include all your drinks too, including all that shitty juice you're drinking.

yes juice is shitty, stop drinking it asap.
 

Cad

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Counting calories sucks ass, and Im betting its one of the major causes of diet failure. Not only the counting itself, shit there is apps for that which make it easy, but the weighing, the estimation when you dont have a scale. Yeah you can get to a place where you can estimate pretty good, but in order for one to get there is months if not years of training using scales and other measuring techniques. And say and oz off here and oz off there, that shit ads up quickly through the whole week.

Guy at work was a calorie freak "Calories in, calories out" We went to lunches and he would weigh everything with a pocket scale. Until that day we went to thai. Now how the fuck are you gonna weigh that shit? Guy was all upset about it too, fuck how many calories is this shit? I just ate it with no rice without even worrying about any of that shit.
I mean unless you eat out every day, you have to just write off eating out and enjoy a meal with your friends/coworkers. No single meal unless you're trying out to be a professional eater is going to wreck your diet. Just get back on track after that. Acting all salty when going out to eat with people about what you can eat is a sure way to look like a piece of shit.
 

Rezz

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Now anyone who brings a pocket scale with them is being a bit on the OCD side, hah. When it comes down to it, the calories in < calories out mindset is more that if you are going to eat something you -know- is high in calorie content, you don't eat other things throughout the day that are high in calorie content to balance it out. And if you can, exercise! It's all about balance. It's not really any different from most other diets, but it does take some general knowledge. Kind of like how Brahma didn't know that beans had carbohydrates in them, just having a baseline understanding of what is and isn't... well, whatever, is good for controlling your diet and improving your health sort of period. My opinion is that everyone should sort of know what they are eating, but that's from working in the food industry forever and doing consultation work for schools about nutrition.

Thai guy though? Aside from his obvious OCDness, you eat a bit and keep your portions to something sensible, then you don't have an extra slice of cake after dinner that evening. Maybe you don't drink that second glass of coconut oil. Sort of goes back to what Cad was talking about; day to day/week to week weight measurements and gains/loses shouldn't be looked at in a vacuum. You take a reasonable period of time and say "Hey I may not have lost 2lbs/1lb that week I had thai for lunch, but I'm down 6 pounds for the month. VICTORY!" And really, cheat meals happen. Just don't make it a regular thing and don't absolutely binge when you do.

The people that try and say "This is -exactly 103 Calories. I have 1697 left for the day!" are uh, almost always wrong about what they are actually eating, and sort of missing the idea of portion control and eating a balanced diet at a caloric deficit. Much like the ones who figure out what they can eat each day by taking one of those silly charts with the Calories burned numbers on it and taking it as gospel. There's a -lot- more that goes into those numbers than just looking up your height and age hahah. I knew I was consuming -around- 2600 calories per day (I'm not a big guy) even when I wasn't working out, so I knew that I needed to drop about 500ish calories per day or more if I wanted to lose weight at a reasonable pace. I ballparked what I was eating from 5 minutes of research, wrote down a couple of easy reference numbers and then figured out that I should eat slightly less of certain things. Especially since I really liked eating other things and didn't want to lose them, I just trimmed things around it so I could still enjoy having a pasta dish at dinner with a super rich sauce and other things I enjoy eating. Instead of eating a sandwich or something else for lunch, I opted for a salad, because I knew I was going to eat heavier at dinner.

Basically, things like that. There's no reason to go nuts trying to get to exactly some arbitrary number that you are almost 100% not going to actually hit because of all the other factors in food/your body/actual exercise. But if you can get a realistic view of your diet before you start trimming things and reducing portion sizes, you can pretty easily ballpark a way to a reasonable, sustainable caloric deficit. The people adding up 5s and 2s and stuff from random calories hoping to lose are going about it the wrong way. Figure out a ballpark 500 calories you can drop off your daily intake, and you'll lose about a pound a week. Really not much else to it than that hah. It does help if you prepare your own food, so after a week of doing a couple of minutes of checking calories etc, you tend to get a pretty good idea of what you are consuming and if you control exactly what is in each meal, you have a much greater handle on your overall diet. That is true for -every- diet.
 

Khane

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Now anyone who brings a pocket scale with them is being a bit on the OCD side, hah. When it comes down to it, the calories in < calories out mindset is more that if you are going to eat something you -know- is high in calorie content, you don't eat other things throughout the day that are high in calorie content to balance it out. And if you can, exercise! It's all about balance. It's not really any different from most other diets, but it does take some general knowledge. Kind of like how Brahma didn't know that beans had carbohydrates in them, just having a baseline understanding of what is and isn't... well, whatever, is good for controlling your diet and improving your health sort of period. My opinion is that everyone should sort of know what they are eating, but that's from working in the food industry forever and doing consultation work for schools about nutrition.

Thai guy though? Aside from his obvious OCDness, you eat a bit and keep your portions to something sensible, then you don't have an extra slice of cake after dinner that evening. Maybe you don't drink that second glass of coconut oil. Sort of goes back to what Cad was talking about; day to day/week to week weight measurements and gains/loses shouldn't be looked at in a vacuum. You take a reasonable period of time and say "Hey I may not have lost 2lbs/1lb that week I had thai for lunch, but I'm down 6 pounds for the month. VICTORY!" And really, cheat meals happen. Just don't make it a regular thing and don't absolutely binge when you do.

The people that try and say "This is -exactly 103 Calories. I have 1697 left for the day!" are uh, almost always wrong about what they are actually eating, and sort of missing the idea of portion control and eating a balanced diet at a caloric deficit. Much like the ones who figure out what they can eat each day by taking one of those silly charts with the Calories burned numbers on it and taking it as gospel. There's a -lot- more that goes into those numbers than just looking up your height and age hahah. I knew I was consuming -around- 2600 calories per day (I'm not a big guy) even when I wasn't working out, so I knew that I needed to drop about 500ish calories per day or more if I wanted to lose weight at a reasonable pace. I ballparked what I was eating from 5 minutes of research, wrote down a couple of easy reference numbers and then figured out that I should eat slightly less of certain things. Especially since I really liked eating other things and didn't want to lose them, I just trimmed things around it so I could still enjoy having a pasta dish at dinner with a super rich sauce and other things I enjoy eating. Instead of eating a sandwich or something else for lunch, I opted for a salad, because I knew I was going to eat heavier at dinner.

Basically, things like that. There's no reason to go nuts trying to get to exactly some arbitrary number that you are almost 100% not going to actually hit because of all the other factors in food/your body/actual exercise. But if you can get a realistic view of your diet before you start trimming things and reducing portion sizes, you can pretty easily ballpark a way to a reasonable, sustainable caloric deficit. The people adding up 5s and 2s and stuff from random calories hoping to lose are going about it the wrong way. Figure out a ballpark 500 calories you can drop off your daily intake, and you'll lose about a pound a week. Really not much else to it than that hah. It does help if you prepare your own food, so after a week of doing a couple of minutes of checking calories etc, you tend to get a pretty good idea of what you are consuming and if you control exactly what is in each meal, you have a much greater handle on your overall diet. That is true for -every- diet.
You're a strange guy Rezz. You say stuff like this but when you start talking about lifting and diets for overweight people who are trying to get into the gym and start down a healthy path you tend to speak from a an elite level of min/maxing. As if everyone is an olympic athlete trying to push out that extra 1%.
 

Rezz

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Nah, I just think that if someone is physically capable of doing exercise other than walking, they will get more out of literally every exercise other than walking hah. Overweight people generally aren't born and bred gym rats (minus notable exceptions like Brahma) as it tends not to lead one to being really overweight. I always assume they want to expend the least amount of effort doing stuff they normally wouldn't do (exercise) and outside a couple of notable exceptions (Angelwatch) they are generally interested in moving beyond simply walking to something they will have much quicker results doing. But if someone is comfortable just doing the least strenuous exercise for extended periods of time and that's it? Hey more power to them, but I'm not going to say they are really getting the most out of their time spent. It's akin to someone cutting out one can of soda a day and talking about their weight loss journey. Yeah they're taking a step in the right direction, but that's a reeeeally small step. I'd feel like the thread wasn't doing its job if someone came in like that and nobody said "Hey you should probably cut more than that."

Otherwise I think most of the weight lifting/weightloss discussions were with like, Itlan and others, who are directly min-maxing stuff.
 

Burren

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If you want to be a fitness model then you're definitely going to have to min/max your food and gym time. But, I think for most people in this thread, it's about sharing struggles and then sharing tips & tricks to get healthier and happier.

For instance, I'm not looking to lose weight, but trying to figure out a healthy way to lean out and gain a little muscle, while working around two injuries: hernia and messed up shoulder. Both limit the lifting I can do and the hernia also limits my cardio right now. So, do I have to resign myself to being a lot less active and watch my diet much more, or can I get where I need to go - albeit a lot slower - while I'm healing. Only good thing I came up with so far is swimming.

I'm having trouble cutting our beer. Sounds ridiculous, but I'm living alone now, working a lot more than I was and it's a security blanket, of sorts. I never have more than 2 beers in a single day, but I know it's counter-productive to what I want. At least I'm eating pretty well otherwise.
 

Eomer

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I had hernia surgery when I was 13 or 14. I don't envy you my friend.
Yeah, I had a left nut the size of a grapefruit on New Year's Day 1999 when I was 17. Tried partying the night before with some friends, but the pain got too bad and my bowels were blocked preventing further alcohol consumption, so I just curled up in the fetal position and drove myself to the emergency room through a blizzard when I was sober enough. Not so good times. I'd been waiting to see a specialist for 6 months at that point, and my GP hadn't told me to limit lifting or exercise, so I was still playing competitive hockey, lifting weights a bit, and working for my dad on weekends occasionally. Apparently unloading and loading 100+ PTAC units that weight close to 100 lbs each for a hotel a day or two before that was ill advised. Left nut went from maybe tennis ball sized to grapefruit from my intestines or something getting down in my scrotum through the hole. The swelling thing started when I was 13 or 14, but it took me a couple years to realize that shit wasn't right and to see a doc about it.

I'm probably lucky I didn't die!
 

Burren

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Yeah, not fun. Apparently, while my legs and ass could handle the squats and dead lifts, the rest of me couldn't. I'm pretty much in a constant state of discomfort. It's not outright pain, but I still don't enjoy it. Luckily the shoulder injury was just due to age and use; tennis, baseball, etc.
 

Itlan

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Yeah, not fun. Apparently, while my legs and ass could handle the squats and dead lifts, the rest of me couldn't. I'm pretty much in a constant state of discomfort. It's not outright pain, but I still don't enjoy it. Luckily the shoulder injury was just due to age and use; tennis, baseball, etc.
Sounds like you had issues staying tight, or perhaps your shoulder was too far forward.
 

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I have actually just went back to Keto for a while from flexible / IIFYM style dieting just recently. I really enjoyed carbs and the idea behind them both, yay freedom. Long term I will most likely go back to that style of diet. For whatever reason, I am mentally much stronger on Keto than I am on a higher carb diet. I have been recovering from an ACL / MCL / PCL reconstruction over the past several months. I found myself overeating / binging more frequently than I would have liked as I am a stress / emotional eater. With Keto, so far, I have been able to stick to it through the stress and there is no hunger, all the usual benefits, etc. Thankfully, I am through the more boring parts of recovery and am actually strength training again which helps the sanity quite a bit.
 

Burren

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Sounds like you had issues staying tight, or perhaps your shoulder was too far forward.
The two injuries aren't related, thankfully. The shoulder has slowly been getting worse over the last decade. The hernia happened in the last couple months.

Consult today to discuss recovery, or further surgery. Woohoo...
 

The Dauntless One

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A couple years back I posted pictures of myself when I dropped down to 153-154 pounds. Unfortunately, 2015 was a hectic year for me. I only gained around 4-5 pounds of weight, but it was mostly fat, so my pants became really tight (my belly was sticking out). According to my Fitbit Aria, I was hovering about 156-157 last month and today I'm down to 150.5 (-7.4 pounds from my highest recorded weight in the last month).

I've been running a lot recently. I have never been a runner in my life, and I did my first 5k run this year. I hope I can extend that to 10k by the end of this summer.
 

Cad

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A couple years back I posted pictures of myself when I dropped down to 153-154 pounds. Unfortunately, 2015 was a hectic year for me. I only gained around 4-5 pounds of weight, but it was mostly fat, so my pants became really tight (my belly was sticking out). According to my Fitbit Aria, I was hovering about 156-157 last month and today I'm down to 150.5 (-7.4 pounds from my highest recorded weight in the last month).

I've been running a lot recently. I have never been a runner in my life, and I did my first 5k run this year. I hope I can extend that to 10k by the end of this summer.
Go lift bro

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Dandai

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I understand that some people aspire to be competitive runners, but I don't understand why
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Khane

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Look at him go. Graceful, subtle... silent in his solemn endeavor. He's like a human Prius.
 

Convo

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Been following the fast metabolism diet. Shit definitely works if anyone is looking to get on something. It's not the easiest at first but once in a routine it's not bad, plus the app makes it easier.
 

Dandai

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Ok, I'll bite. What's the fast metabolism diet?

Edit: I'll take this opportunity to brag on myself a little. I'm down to 232 lbs and 29%ish body fat. I started at 257 pounds and 38%ish body fat in January. I've been very inconsistent with my eating and gym routine, so I'm not breaking any land speed records, but I'm pleased that my numbers are going in the right direction.

PS: Happy Father's Day Khane.