Weight Loss Thread

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Dandai

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Yeah, 27 lbs lost is great. I tried losing weight slowly so I didn't lose much lean muscle mass. For the most part my lifts actually went up, but the weight loss was so slow that it was killing my motivation to be consistent with my diet. After a couple months I decided I'd worry about increasing the weight on my lifts when I was down to my goal body fat. I think it takes a special kind of person to not get discouraged with slow progress and maintain a restrictive diet. (I'm obviously not that person.)
 

Itlan

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I'm doing Atkins, not keto. Look. This is working for me. I am not hungry. I have no cravings now. I see the weight coming off. Christ I am down 26 pounds in less than 7 weeks? Why change what is working? I DON'T want a diet that I can't maintain. This I can maintain because I am allowed to eat most foods I like.

Have I lost strength? Yes. So I can't bench 450 any more. I can still bench 405, and I FEEL so much better. Today at the gym, I looked in the mirror and noticed my chest is sticking out further than my gut!
Lol "so I can't bench 450 any more."

Fuck you man. Fuuuuuck youuu.
 

Srathor

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I have just found it simpler to think of Brahma as two dudes. So when I hear numbers like 450 I am like good for them. Not, oh fuck he could snap people in half.

Good Job on the weight loss Brahma!
 

BrotherWu

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Weighed in this morning. I'm at about 25lb down this year. Late April to late May was a plateau but things seem to be moving again.

The diet is pretty simple but, more importantly, sustainable. Basically, it's just clean eating with limited carbs (mainly at breakfast and after workout), mostly lean protein (about 1g per 1lb LBM), running at about a 1000 cal deficit during the week but I don't really feel like I'm that hungry since I'm eating mostly protein and veggies. I track everything during the week. On the weekends, I relax the diet and don't track shit, allowing booze and 1 or 2 cheat meals, so that's why the average weight loss is down for a 1k deficit.

Lifting 3-4 days per week and not fucking around when I am there. I hit squats, bench, bent over rows every week and then throw in a mix of other stuff for core, arms, back, shoulders, legs but I don't do focused days. I also warm up with a mile run, limber 11 stretching, and do an HIIT session a couple of days per week. Usually sleds or farmer walks. Plus a few miles per week walking the dog.

Feels good bros.
 

Crone

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So I don't want to cause a huge nasty debate on keto, but from reading this thread I'm considering trying that. I've done the calorie counting before, with MFP, and just generally had a calorie deficit, but I didn't stick with it. I'm diabetic, controlled with Metformin, so technically pre-diabetic? Once you have it, you always have it, but I've read that keto diets can help with that. My biggest problem is portion control. I just can eat a ton, and love eating a ton. As for liquid calories, it's not terrible. Being diabetic, I cut out a lot of that already, but juice is my Achilles heel! I can down a whole quart of juice, which because of my kids is nearly always in the house.
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I'm fairly sedentary in my job and home life, but my kids are getting older, and would love to start being able to do things with them. They are 3 and 20 months, and love going outside, but after a couple mile walk, I'm worn out.
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If possible, can anyone link resources to get started on this diet? Thoughts? Should I not do it? Anything would be helpful.

Thanks bros.
 

Eidal

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My biggest problem is portion control. I just can eat a ton, and love eating a ton.
Much harder to do with a carb-restrictive diet. Eating a pound of bacon sounds fun until you eat a pound of bacon. Juice is pretty bad but you already knew that, but no way in hell would juice be allowed in a keto diet anyway.

What does your doctor think?
 

Khane

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Portion control is quite a bit easier with a low carb diet for most people. Not sure what the pound of bacon comment was in reference to, or were you referring to it being harder to eat a ton, not harder to do portion control?
 

Eidal

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Yes, it's typically harder to eat 1000 calories of fat/protein than 1000 calories of donuts.
 

Brahma

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Started cooking because of the diet. Here's breakfast/lunch. My 1st omelette! Will have steak tips and a salad for dinner. Atkins bar for snack before bed. Maybe two.

Only down a 1/2 pound this week. Guess it will get much slower from here on out.

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Crone

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Yes, it's typically harder to eat 1000 calories of fat/protein than 1000 calories of donuts.
Understandable. Before starting anything, I'm going to get back into a doctor. I just moved to the Northwest 5 months ago, and haven't actually gone. The idea of a keto diet sounded more manageable than other diets. Right now, I still don't know how healthy eating habits will turn into a lifestyle. Being addicted to so much different types of food really sucks. Maybe I'll just finally get to the point where having a little bit of something will be enough? I don't know.
 

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Khane

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Just keep in mind that it doesn't matter what lifestyle change you decide to go with you're going to have to give up things you like to eat/drink no matter what.

You're fat, you have very little self control and something needs to change. There are 2 things that are more important than anything else when it comes to weight loss

1) Do you want to do it. Do you REALLY want to do it?
2) If yes to #1 figure out what you think you can live without. If it's fattie stuff like bacon and red meat that's easier for you to give up, do a typical low fat diet. If it's bread and pasta or sweets that are easy for you to give up, do low carb.

#1 Is the most important thing though. If you don't really want to change and get your life in order it will never work, no matter what diet you choose. You have to want to make it work.
 

iannis

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Atkins is fine. Shit works. Shit works great.

Just be careful with it. You can't be lazy with his diet.
 

Cad

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Started cooking because of the diet. Here's breakfast/lunch. My 1st omelette! Will have steak tips and a salad for dinner. Atkins bar for snack before bed. Maybe two.

Only down a 1/2 pound this week. Guess it will get much slower from here on out.

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Don't worry about "only lost X amount this week" when I am cutting I'll lose nothing some weeks then the next week whoosh 5lbs. No idea why it does that but your weight loss won't be a straight line it'll come in stops and starts.
 

Crone

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Just keep in mind that it doesn't matter what lifestyle change you decide to go with you're going to have to give up things you like to eat/drink no matter what.

You're fat, you have very little self control and something needs to change. There are 2 things that are more important than anything else when it comes to weight loss

1) Do you want to do it. Do you REALLY want to do it?
2) If yes to #1 figure out what you think you can live without. If it's fattie stuff like bacon and red meat that's easier for you to give up, do a typical low fat diet. If it's bread and pasta or sweets that are easy for you to give up, do low carb.

#1 Is the most important thing though. If you don't really want to change and get your life in order it will never work, no matter what diet you choose. You have to want to make it work.
#1 is the most important thing about any of it. I think that most attempts that I have given to weight loss, do stem from wanting it to happen. But things change, life happens, who knows. The ability to keep that motivation. To not give in, to keep going. That is more the battle. Then again, if you have #1, you'll have the will power and control to keep going. Guess it all works off #1!

How do you convince yourself that you don't want any of it anymore? Don't read the Fast Food thread? Lol... Giving up red meat would be way more difficult than giving up carbs for me, so I feel that's the best way to go.
 

Rezz

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Well, to be fair, a more balanced diet that is based on caloric restriction wouldn't have you giving up.. well, anything. You just don't consume as many calories per day. It is substantially more about portion control and actually knowing what you are eating vs. just cutting something out of your diet. Except soda/starbucks etc, those are basically going to be sticking points with -any- diet, for the most part. There's just way too many calories (from any source) with very little satiation and nutritional value to be considered worthwhile. And aside from going vegetarian/vegan I don't know if there's a no-red meat diet, but hey, people will try anything to sell themselves that calories in < calories out isn't the overall endgame for weightloss.

And Cad is completely correct. Going week to week and flipping out because you didn't lose x amount of pounds will drive you nuts hah, especially as you get lower in body fat%. The first couple of weeks are always the biggest, just because water weight etc is the first to go. It's a lot like lifting. Once you are past the easy gains, it's all a slowly declining increase from then on.
 

Dandai

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Well, to be fair, a more balanced diet that is based on caloric restriction wouldn't have you giving up.. well, anything. You just don't consume as many calories per day. It is substantially more about portion control and actually knowing what you are eating vs. just cutting something out of your diet. Except soda/starbucks etc, those are basically going to be sticking points with -any- diet, for the most part. There's just way too many calories (from any source) with very little satiation and nutritional value to be considered worthwhile. And aside from going vegetarian/vegan I don't know if there's a no-red meat diet, but hey, people will try anything to sell themselves that calories in < calories out isn't the overall endgame for weightloss.
I used to be all in on the low/no carb hype train as the best way to lose weight because it worked so well (and quickly) for me. After doing a lot of [varied sources] reading I've come to the conclusion that, for someone who is ONLY concerned about losing body fat, calorie deficit is all that's required.

My YouTube mentor (is that a thing?), Layne Norton, is a firm believer in Flexible Dieting (otherwise known as If It Fits Your Macros). It's not new to a lot of you guys, but for those of you who haven't heard of it before, with this philosophy there are no "good" or "bad" foods. You have a budget of macro nutrients per day and how you spend them is up to you. Love ice cream? No problem, you can eat a cup of ice cream and spend 64g of fat and 30g of carbs. However, spending so much of your fat budget in one sitting means you'll have to eat really lean for your other meals. Same for high carb foods like pizza or pasta. Obviously foods like ice cream are pretty much devoid of micronutrients and vitamins, so for your overall health you probably should try to vary your diet, but for weight loss it doesn't matter.

Layne Norton and a couple of his buddies started a new site a few months ago:http://www.avatarnutrition.com. It's basically an algorithm that guides and recommends your macro ratios based on your current body composition, activity level, and goals. It's $10/month, so I figured I'd give it a try. Overall I really like it, but I'm a little more specific in my goals than just weight loss. If you're just trying to lose weight there's plenty of free resources for you. I like this one because it has a ton of custom resources (quick reference charts, reference videos, Q&As, etc), and it's better suited to my goals.

As Rezz points out, flexible dieting is probably your best option if you're the kind of person who experiences mental anguish at the thought of forgoing certain foods.

Here is what Avatar Nutrition has me at right now.

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Khane

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The biggest mistake people make is that they think low carb isn't a caloric deficit diet. You eat at huge caloric deficits on low carb because it's typically easier to put the fork down (for people who have always had a hard time doing that).

The whole "you don't need to count calories" was just a marketing technique because you generally don't, you count your carbs and do the diet as designed and you're going to be eating at a large deficit. The idea of not having to count calories is compelling to people, even if it isn't really true.
 

mkopec

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Counting calories sucks ass, and Im betting its one of the major causes of diet failure. Not only the counting itself, shit there is apps for that which make it easy, but the weighing, the estimation when you dont have a scale. Yeah you can get to a place where you can estimate pretty good, but in order for one to get there is months if not years of training using scales and other measuring techniques. And say and oz off here and oz off there, that shit ads up quickly through the whole week.

Guy at work was a calorie freak "Calories in, calories out" We went to lunches and he would weigh everything with a pocket scale. Until that day we went to thai. Now how the fuck are you gonna weigh that shit? Guy was all upset about it too, fuck how many calories is this shit? I just ate it with no rice without even worrying about any of that shit.