Weight Loss Thread

AladainAF said:

I lost some muscle, but what I was getting at was that I didn't lose all that much relative to my body. I started with almost 208lb of muscle.

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Wat? You lost 40lbs of muscle which is almost 25% of your total muscle mass. Of the 87lbs you lost almost half of that was muscle, for every pound of fat you lost you almost lost a pound of muscle to go with it.

You lost so much muscle because you were severely undereating and your body cannibalised your muscle mass for energy, which is exactly what I said would happen.

AladainAF said:

I bet a 600 lb guy with 400lb of muscle will lose a lot of muscle too. Maybe hes better off at 600lb.

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LOL yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

I think I posted this picture before as an example of what's possible with a SENSIBLE diet and a decent workout program - admittedly this was under the supervision of the head/CEO of Personal Trainer in London City and Mayfair - Ultimate Performance (chain of personal training only body transformation gyms), but that doesn't change the fact that the feedback here on your 800 calorie diet was that it was a bad idea. I mean honestly, I've probably taken shits that have been worth more calories than that.

You went full steam ahead and tried to drop the scale number as quickly as possible, there's nothing wrong with a large deficit (as I said above 10-12 calories per lb) is currently getting me to drop over 1lb a week which is more than is recommended for someone my weight, but I'm certainly not losing 1lb of muscle to go with it. In fact my wifi scales give me weight, lean mass and body fat data which goes back to the start of December 16 - admittedly these are bioimpedance and not as accurate as a DEXA but the results are consistent - my lean mass has fluctuated between 61-64kg and some of that lean mass will be water weight depending on whether I've been lower carb or not).

The point was always that a healthier deficit would have been better from a health and body composition perspective, I mean - you only dropped 10% actual body fat.

Eidal said:

What -- you don't think ~30% body fat to ~15% body fat in 6 weeks is reasonable? But BRUH, THE CEO HIMSELF OF THIS COOL GYM PERSONALLY TOLD HIM HOW TO DO IT.

Ossoi believes the dumbest shit.

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You have a point - their official site says the middle picture was 7 weeks. The Ultimate Real Result: Glenn - a 3 month radical transformation - Ultimate Performance

There's plenty of information online about what that transformation took - training twice a day, eating mostly white fish, having your workout designed and supervised by a leader in the field, plus UP have plenty of other results to show off, hence why they have PT only gyms that charge ridiculous rates in the UK, EU, Asia and soon the US https://upfitness.co.uk/results/male-results/

Right, in the fifteen weeks, how did we do it? Throughout the fifteen weeks first thing in the morning was a handful of nuts. Then for the first five weeks it was white, lean meat, with fish and no carbohydrates. Zilch! No carbs at all! The only carbs I was taking, the small amount, was in my green vegetables. Then from week five to fifteen I just eat fish and greens only, for ten weeks. In the de-load week I talked to you about I had a very, very minute amount of carbs in my post-workout shake and a small amount of sweet potato in my post-workout meal. That was just over the three days in my de-load week, but that was about it.

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The programme itself was 15 weeks long. It was four days on and one day off, and on that day off I swum for 40 minutes. It was twice a day training, with strength training in the morning and hypertrophy or volume training in the evening or afternoon.

And every 15 days I had a de-load week where I trained for about 30-40 minutes with high intensity training with certain body parts three times a week.

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he weighed 98.2kg, with body fat of 23.9 percent. After just over three months of following Mitchell’s fitness plan, he had lost 13kg of fat, added 7kg of muscle

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Do you really think such results when training 2x a day with someone to supervise/motivate you and force out the extra reps, and with 99% diet adherence is impossible?

And yes, I'm aware of all the tricks that are used to generate before/afters - the trainer associated with the above transformation has several books out detailing such methods, you can see in the pic he's shaved his chest and in the colour ones online also had fake tan applied. Factor in water and carb loading before a shoot also

Regardless, congrats on missing the point - I'm not saying Aladdin could have emulated that - but it is possible for a beginner, even an obese one, to gain muscle and burn fat simultaenously, or even burn fat and preserve muscle.

He could have dropped the weight without losing 25% of his muscle mass, that is undeniable.