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It's like you're not even reading.
If, at your current weight, you stopped exercising and "fasting" and gained 30lbs, would you feel fatter/overweight compared to your current self?
You realise I could show pics of you at 300lbs to someone 500lbs, and they would say that 300lbs is nothing?
Are you really this thick that I have to spell out every post to you?
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Here's a more typical day from the same period without the Dominoes.
Still eating 170g of carbs, still adding powdered sugar to my post workout drink
This is how I finished Jan 2020
Burnem Wizfyre
"You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way."Wanna explain how I achieved the above whilst eating 200g carbs a day?
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Burnem Wizfyre
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What you did and what I do is different, we have different goals.
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Burnem Wizfyre
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I’m not saying you weren’t heavier I’m saying you have a fucking mental disorder if you think any of the pictures you posted is a picture of an unhealthy body.
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Burnem Wizfyre
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Sure explain to me what you ate and what times and your exercise routine.View attachment 339775
Here's a more typical day from the same period without the Dominoes.
Still eating 170g of carbs, still adding powdered sugar to my post workout drink
This is how I finished Jan 2020
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Wanna explain how I achieved the above whilst eating 200g carbs a day?
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How is that relevant to a discussion about the methods you are preaching, specifically:
A) fasting is necessary/optimal for weight loss
b) ""You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way."
You have literally claimed you CANNOT burn fat when you spike your insulin
You did not precede that with any kind of disclaimer or potential scenario when you can burn fat whilst spiking insulin.
I've posted photos with accompanying diet logs showing me eating 200-400g of sugar and processed carbs to show that I was able to burn fat AND gain muscle
Address that
Are you trolling right now? I literally just posted two myfitnesspal logs, you clown
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LiquidDeath
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You have to stop man, the dude literally has a reading comprehension problem. He doesn't understand that there is a difference between building muscle mass and losing accumulated fat without exercise. He keeps saying "you can do both" without the slightest understanding of why that isn't true for a lot of people and a lot of lifestyles.
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Your the one with the reading comprehension problem. If you're losing weight without exercising then you're not just "Losing accumulated fat", you're losing muscle at the same time. If you were preserving muscle then at the end of the weight loss you'd be ripped, but you're not - hence why I'm the only one posting photos of their actual physique
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LiquidDeath
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No, when YOU lose weight without exercising that is what happens because you work pretty hard on accumulating extra muscle mass and that extra muscle mass is not magically supported by anything except increased calorie intake and exercise to specifically maintain it.
When a normal person tries to lose weight, they don't somehow magically lose all of their muscle while burning fat stores. This is some weird bodybuilder myth that you perpetuate with no basis. They might not retain all of their accumulated muscle mass from lugging around excess weight, but they aren't going to be some kind of emaciated shell of a human.
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I think the explanation is simple..
Burnem Wizfyre is lazy, but doesn't want to be fat, so he starves himself for periods at a time, then binge eats, but overall consumes less calories because of the days of starvation. He copes with his dietary mechanism by intellectualizing it and learning about the science of starvation / fasting. Ossoi, on the other hand, eats well, and works out like a beast, and has a godly body as a result of it. Something that Burnem will *never* have on his non-eating diet.
Burnem Wizfyre is lazy, but doesn't want to be fat, so he starves himself for periods at a time, then binge eats, but overall consumes less calories because of the days of starvation. He copes with his dietary mechanism by intellectualizing it and learning about the science of starvation / fasting. Ossoi, on the other hand, eats well, and works out like a beast, and has a godly body as a result of it. Something that Burnem will *never* have on his non-eating diet.
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This is literally peak stupidity, I mean Jesus Christ are you serious right now?
"when YOU lose weight without exercising that is what happens because you work pretty hard on accumulating extra muscle mass and that extra muscle mass is not magically supported by anything except increased calorie intake and exercise to specifically maintain it."
What are you actually trying to say here? That I am somehow able to burn fat, gain muscle whilst INCREASING my calories? And you're here literally rabidly preaching AGAINST me, who somehow has figured out how to:
a) burn fat
b) gain muscle
c) INCREASE CALORIES
"When a normal person tries to lose weight, they don't somehow magically lose all of their muscle while burning fat stores. This is some weird bodybuilder myth that you perpetuate with no basis. They might not retain all of their accumulated muscle mass from lugging around excess weight"
Do they lose muscle or not?
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Burnem Wizfyre
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Do me a favor, burn and gain that muscle without exercising and eating like that and come back and tell me how that works out for you.
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LiquidDeath
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Energy is always conserved. Obviously. But you keep thinking that CI - CO = C (net) = weight gain/loss is how your body works, when we have these magic things called hormones that direct our body in using/storing energy.
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Reminder:
Your claim: ""You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way."
So, are you willing to edit the above claim to include the conditions where it is possible to "burn fat whilst spiking insulin"? And thus concede your claim was bullshit?
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In the interests of FULL DISCLOSURE / TRANSPARENCY
Here is an MFP log from the last week of that cut.
I was motivated by the fact I was going to a sex / fetish club in Berlin with a Dominatrix 13 years younger than me
That final week I dropped calories / carbs significantly, although I was still adding 25g of sugar to my post workout shakes for the INSULIN SPIKEZ
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Burnem Wizfyre
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I don’t starve myself, I get hungry about as often as I eat, if I’m doing 24 hour fast then I get hungry around meal time. If it’s 48 hours then I get hungry around 48 hours in, my body doesn’t starve it has all the fuel it needs. I promise you, you spend more of your time hungrier than me while I’m starving.
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