Weight Loss Thread

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I’m not trying to put on muscle you complete fucking retard, we are talking about two different things. Weight loss and building muscle is different you fucktard.

THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU OR ME.

IT'S ABOUT YOUR TWO CLAIMS:

1. You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way.

2. Sorry but constantly spiking your insulin levels all day is going to lead to insulin resistance, obesity and diabetes.

Are you now willing to either retract those claims as wrong? Or add "Unless you're eating/training like Ossoi Ossoi ?

Yes or no. Nothing else.

Reminder, do you need me to spell it out for you again?

You made two claims:

1. You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way.

2. Sorry but constantly spiking your insulin levels all day is going to lead to insulin resistance, obesity and diabetes.

"You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin,"

"constantly spiking your insulin levels"

YOU / YOUR

This isn't about

Burnem Wizfyre 's goals

It's about

Burnem Wizfyre CLAIMS

Are you now willing to either retract those claims as wrong? Or add "Unless you're eating/training like

Ossoi

Ossoi ?

Yes or no. Nothing else

Lumi · Mar 5, 2021

Falxy-US said:
So... I absolutely will "moron" your post for you bragging that consuming zero calories is better at losing weight than eating calories (and exercising.) I mean, no shit, of course not eating will make you lose weight.

It does WAYYY the fuck more than just make you lose weight though. It's literally the single most powerful tool for health that exists.

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I’m not trying to put on muscle you complete fucking retard, we are talking about two different things. Weight loss and building muscle is different you fucktard.

Burnem Wizfyre said:
If I wanted to transform my body to look what Ossoi’s

You're gonna transform your body to look like in without trying to put on muscle? Ok bro, good luck with that

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

I lost 50 pounds in 12 weeks, let me pull up 9 weeks. 42 pounds in 9 weeks. You didn’t even lose remotely close to 42 pounds in those 9 weeks since you keep trying to compare what you are doing to weight loss and not build and maintain muscle you idiot.

Aychamo BanBan · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I lost 50 pounds in 12 weeks, let me pull up 9 weeks. 42 pounds in 9 weeks. You didn’t even lose remotely close to 42 pounds in those 9 weeks since you keep trying to compare what you are doing to weight loss and not build and maintain muscle you idiot.

But you do realize that you were a monstrous 306 pounds right? Fat as shit.

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
If I wanted to transform my body to look what Ossoi’s I would do what he does except I wouldn’t snack and I wouldn’t ever work out except for in a fasted state. It would make what he does better.

Do you need me to spell out your own posts now

YOU LITERALLY JUST CLAIMIED THAT IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK LIKE ME (AKA LOSE FAT, GAIN MUSCLE, GET RIPPED) THAT YOU COULD DO IT BETTER THAN ME

Now you're trying to say you just meant weight loss?????

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

Ossoi said:
You're gonna transform your body to look like in without trying to put on muscle? Ok bro, good luck with that

I’d have to put on muscle to transform my body to look like yours and I couldn’t do what I do to do what you have done, I’ve never said anything different but you keep arguing the same shit I’ve never said.

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

Ossoi said:
Do you need me to spell out your own posts now

YOU LITERALLY JUST CLAIMIED THAT IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK LIKE ME (AKA LOSE FAT, GAIN MUSCLE, GET RIPPED) THAT YOU COULD DO IT BETTER THAN ME

Now you're trying to say you just meant weight loss?????

I said I’d not snack and when I worked out I’d do it in a fasted state to maximize the benefits of fat burning.

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I’d have to put on muscle to transform my body to look like yours and I couldn’t do what I do to do what you have done, I’ve never said anything different but you keep arguing the same shit I’ve never said.

Burnem Wizfyre said:
If I wanted to transform my body to look what Ossoi’s I would do what he does except I wouldn’t snack and I wouldn’t ever work out except for in a fasted state. It would make what he does better.

Legitimately

Burnem Wizfyre what am I missing here?

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I said I’d not snack and when I worked out I’d do it in a fasted state to maximize the benefits of fat burning.

So how are you going to "look like me" if you're not gaining muscle?

Aychamo BanBan · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I said I’d not snack and when I worked out I’d do it in a fasted state to maximize the benefits of fat burning.

Do you think the miracle of the fasted state would allow you to be fasted and do a 40 mile bike ride? Without bonking.

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
Your fucking metabolism you mouth breather.

OK so you now concede that your statements were false, because it is possible as long as you have the right metabolism

That's all I wanted to establish

"You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way." Unless your metabolism is similar to Ossoi's

"Sorry but constantly spiking your insulin levels all day is going to lead to insulin resistance, obesity and diabetes." Unless your metabolism is similar to Ossoi's

Burnem Wizfyre Do you now stand by the above statements with the added conditional?

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Falxy-US said:
Do you think the miracle of the fasted state would allow you to be fasted and do a 40 mile bike ride? Without bonking.

It's 4pm and I legit haven't ate anything yet because of this retard

Lanx · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
As to how i feel, amazing. I literally got a “random” at work because I’m jittery after about 30 hours of fasting and operators at the plant have told my coworkers they’ve spotted me jogging around the truck or on the back of the flat bed doing pushups and setups. I honestly feel like I did when I was in my early 20’s. I didn’t exercise at all to get here but now I do it at work when I get flooded with a what I can only describe as a fuck ton of energy and it almost feels like I’m having a panic attack but i check my watch and my whoop strap and heart rate is 62.

dude, when you used to weigh half as much as you used to, ANY MOVEMENT looks like your jogging to other ppl!!!

co-workers be like "WTF was that breeze?" holy shit did

Burnem Wizfyre just run by?

also can i just do this 18/6 or whatever just drinking black coffee all day then just eat a "sensible" dinner?

and i literally mean, i'm only drinking black coffee or just water, but i don't want to do that weird ass ACV shots or do funky shit like put salt or cinnemin in the coffee, wth.

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

Ossoi said:
Legitimately Burnem Wizfyre what am I missing here?

So how are you going to "look like me" if you're not gaining muscle?

I would be gaining muscle, I’d have to to transform my body to look like yours. I never said I wouldn’t I literally said if I wanted to do what you did I’d do what you did because it’s a good method for putting on muscle and getting ripped. Doing what you did and what I did is different things entirely and you can’t seem to comprehend that because you fail at reading comprehension.

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I literally said if I wanted to do what you did I’d do what you did because it’s a good method for putting on muscle and getting ripped.

Burnem Wizfyre said:
If I wanted to transform my body to look what Ossoi’s I would do what he does except I wouldn’t snack and I wouldn’t ever work out except for in a fasted state. It would make what he does better.

I mean Jesus, you can't even keep track of your own posts now.

You claimed you would do what I need, except you wouldn't snack and you would work out fasted. And thus you would get better results.

That is not "doing what I did"

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
I never said I wouldn’t I literally said if I wanted to do what you did I’d do what you did because it’s a good method for putting on muscle and getting ripped

Even this is wrong. Normally when I cut the priority is to burn fat.

Gaining muscle (as already stated) was an added bonus and was because I was untrained for 11 months, meaning I was getting "noob gains". My "methods" usually result in me losing fat and preserving muscle

If you're a total beginner to lifting weights, you would also probably gain muscle whilst losing fat (provided your diet was right) because you're a total beginner.

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

Ossoi said:
OK so you now concede that your statements were false, because it is possible as long as you have the right metabolism

That's all I wanted to establish

"You can’t burn fat when you constantly spike your insulin, when you only spike your insulin once you spend longer time in fat burning mode. You switch from burning food you eat to burning your fat stores. Your body increases its metabolism to give you more energy when you fast for prolonged periods, your stuck on a calorie in calorie out mentality when the body doesn’t work that way." Unless your metabolism is similar to Ossoi's

"Sorry but constantly spiking your insulin levels all day is going to lead to insulin resistance, obesity and diabetes." Unless your metabolism is similar to Ossoi's

Burnem Wizfyre Do you now stand by the above statements with the added conditional?

I’ve maintained the metabolism argument you just failed at reading comprehension.

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

Ossoi said:
Even this is wrong. Normally when I cut the priority is to burn fat.

Gaining muscle (as already stated) was an added bonus and was because I was untrained for 11 months, meaning I was getting "noob gains". My "methods" usually result in me losing fat and preserving muscle

If you're a total beginner to lifting weights, you would also probably gain muscle whilst losing fat (provided your diet was right) because you're a total beginner.

If your priority is losing fat you are doing it wrong, sorry.

Ossoi · Mar 5, 2021

Burnem Wizfyre said:
If your priority is losing fat you are doing it wrong, sorry.

Even my head is ripped, look at those forehead veins

Burnem Wizfyre · Mar 5, 2021

Ossoi said:
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If I want to burn fat and maximize it 24 hour fast ain’t the way to go, the longer the better doesn’t mean my goal won’t be met, hence If your priority is fat loss you aren’t maximizing your fat loss potential with all those insulin spikes.

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